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Shin is in the right state of mind later because that's what the story upholds. Shin can literally see Pui Pui's movements. And he stills decides to crap himself. Imagine if Pui Pui was moving a 1/100th the speed of Kaioshin. Why would he be shook?

Yeah, maybe you got a good point. Plus, Goku already is crowned strongest in the universe by BoG, 5 years before EoZ. So if he could do it by BoG, no doubt he can do it by EoZ.

Yeah, Shin wasn't in the right state of mind at the Budokai. He deeply underestimated how strong Super Saiyan 2 Gohan was. An inconsistent story is made consistent through the events that happen later, not earlier. So the true Shin is the one we saw at Badibi's ship, not the Shin we thought of durin...

Well, EML clarified the vagueness for us thankfully.

It seems implied by the narrative during EoZ. Goku is treated as if he's the strongest. EML goes on to confirm our suspicions we've had all along. Yeah, I feel like Ultimate Gohan should be way beyond what Goku is capable of. Maybe Goku got some Elder Kai power up and trained on top of it for EoZ? W...

Yep, Shin's reactions to SSJ2 Gohan and Base Vegeta are indeed not consistent. This is why so many people have a hard time grasping the Buu Saga. The author is literally all over the place. What changed is probably how the author wanted to portray Shin. We know Shin is completely blown away by Base ...

You shouldn't be discounting the source material. Base Goku ~ Yakon > Expected Saiyans (Post Pui Pui Destruction) > Pui Pui > Expected Saiyans > Kaioshin Is what this segment shows. It shows us that Kaioshin is super weak. And that the Base Saiyans scale many times over him. 1. Expected Saiyans are ...

Piccolo was able to beat Android 20, who should be well above Yardrat Goku.

Base Gotenks is just a gag, we see that Base Goku (EoZ) is only around Mr. Buu's power and he has Gotenks beat.

Base Goku (EoZ) ~ Mr. Buu > Base Gotenks proves that Base Gotenks stuff is a gag.

Yea, we've always suspected it, but RoF brought the Base Saiyans > Piccolo evidence harder than ever. Previously we had a wealth of implications already suggesting it. It wasn't much of a debate until Beerus' line. However, Beerus' line is automatically running into severe problems. We know Goku is ...

Super Saiyan Goku 250 Perfect Cell (Vs Goku) 275 Perfect Cell (Vs Gohan) 350 Super Saiyan Gohan 375 Injured Ssj2 Gohan 750 Perfect Cell (FP) 1,000 Super Perfect Cell 1,700 Super Saiyan 2 Gohan 1,800 SPC Kamehameha 4,250 Gohan Kamehameha 4,500 I think SPC isn't very far behind Gohan, but when Gohan d...