Kanzenshuu

Well if it means anything, I have her both an SSJ and SSJ2 in my fanfic.

As for why she wasn't an SSJ in DBZ, it's because she appeared in the last couple of chapters where their was pretty much no conflict. GT IDK.

xmysticgohanx wrote:Where does everyone have King Cold and Metal Freeza?

Mecha Frieza was content with challenging SSJ Goku again so it's safe to say he's at least as strong as SSJ Goku @Namek and King Cold was around 70,000,000ish to be considered weaker than 50% Frieza.

Wow I didn't think there would be so much polemic when I remember discussing those points here (of course on other threads). If someone wants to discuss that it would be better to do so on the proper threads and leave this one to the topic it was created for. My problem is that your arguing that Fr...

19 in less than 4 months.

Yeah, still not buying into the whole Goku X Vegeta thing.

Ever wondered why Vegito decided to go SSJ ASAP against Buuhan? I don't think he did that just to be fancy.

Was just strolling along the thread until I bumped into this... For example what would Freezers reaction be if after he was done beating the crap out of Vegeta and was ready to kill everyone but Goku was still far from healed but then Android 18 showed up and wanted to fight him? Oh look at this its...

Hugo Boss wrote:Tarble vs Tapion

There's no way Tapion can be that weak.

Tapion stomps.

Regardless if Fusion is a multiplier or not, I don't see any reason why Gogeta should get a godly boost where as Gotenks gets a minimal boost. As for Gotenks's power, Trunks feels that a Base Fusion between the two of them can stall Majin Buu (with the last Buu they sensed being Initial Super Buu). ...

Goku never sensed Vegetto. Goku was Vegetto. He had his memories, so he should know his power as well. If we're going by that, Goku also considered Janemba the strongest ki he had ever met, right before proceeding to rip him apart. The only difference is that in M12, Goku proceeded to whip Fat Jane...

Beerus runs the GT gauntlet, how far does he get? 1. Super Bebi Vegeta 2. Final Form Bebi Vegeta 3. Initial Super 17 4. SSJ4 Goku (Bebi Saga) 5. Golden Oozaru Bebi Vegeta 6. SSJ4 Goku (Super 17 Saga) 7. Super 17 (Post 10X Kamehameha) 8. Nuova Shenron 9. Syn Shenron 10. SSJ4 Goku (Post-Limits) 11. O...

The SEG specifically talks about vegetto,so it may be different for kibitoshin for some reason. Or maybe they just asked toriyama how fusion works,and he asnwered the simpliest way possible,with some inconsistencies.Which doesn't make it false,it's a plot-hole,but it's still true. :roll: Still, hav...

I'm personally a believer in Super Bebi Vegeta > SSJ Vegito and then their's that thing with Beerus > SSJ3 Vegito in BOG's extended cut so I can see Beerus probably making it to Golden Oozaru Bebi Vegeta and maybe winning.

My most recent list. Note: Unlike a lot of people here, I don't believe Frieza > Base Saiyans so try to cut me some slack. Also, I use a 5X SSJ multiplier from when after the Saiyans leave the RoSaT in the Cell Arc to the end of the series and my GT multipliers are very small because all the non-SSJ...

Raditz Vs The Saibamen No Kamikaze. Persoanlly, I have Raditz at 1,300 seeing as he was only stated to rival a Saibamen but I still think he can get the job done unless the Saiba's use their acid on him or somethin... Beerus runs the GT gauntlet, how far does he get? 1. Super Bebi Vegeta 2. Final F...

We have the following: -Gotenks: tens of times stronger than goten and trunks ( SEG) -Vegetto: goku and vegeta power levels multiplied (anime databook) -SS4 gogeta: tens of times stronger than SS4 goku and SS4 vegeta (DBGT databook) If SS4 Gogeta use the same"formula" you would think that...

Oozaru Nappa is a 75,000 so he alone can take the Ginyu Force albeit Ginyu himself. Oozary Vegeta manhandles the Captain.

MSSJ Goku (Cell Games) VS Zangya

Zangya was capable of keeping up with MSSJ Gohan whom I believe to be much ahead of his Father at this point of time.

Toriyama didn't change his mind because he didn't think Gogeta would be strong enough. He's been quoted saying, in this very thread, that he changed to use Vegetto because he didn't want to step on Toei's toes with a Metamorean Fusion for Goku and Vegeta, meaning he just didn't want to do the same ...

- Nobody's eager to nerf Gogeta. There was a time where I believed in the Gogeta hype but then I realized that he wasn't as strong as people made him out to be. What Old Kai said specifically meant Vegito so just because he's mentioning Goku and Vegeta doesn't necessarily mean the same can be appli...

Maybe it would have sounded awkward describing their appearance?

In all seriousness, Trunks only thought the only two Androids that existed were 17 and 18 so he didn't feel the need to explain how they looked to Goku.

FSSJ is Kaioken X100?

Since when?