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Hirudegarn smacked around SSJ3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan. According to Toei, Janemba is the strongest movie villain (he easily owned Goku).

Probably comparable to Buutenks. He'd stomp Super Buu without a doubt.

After Goku and Vegeta use a merging item to merge, they become Vegetto When they become, not when they became. Vegito doesn't have fixed power level and nothing is said about Buu saga Vegito, but about Vegito overall. SSJ2 is also stated to be stronger than SSJ, but it doesn't mean Gohan SSJ2 from ...

The power scaling issue isn't because of power boosts being big. Z has a lot of that with Piccolo's train for the Androids, or Gotenks' week on the Rosat. If the power boost actually has a reason, no issue with how big the boost is. The true reason is a feat/statement contradicting another feat/sta...

Super exciting guide states it. Super Exciting Guide said that the fusion is more of a multiplication than an addition. It never said it's a straight multiplication of both power levels. The guide specificly says powerlevel x powerlevel. What other thoughts are you getting from this? A guide doesn'...

Perfectionist-Cell wrote:

Juub wrote:

Perfectionist-Cell wrote: Fusion is power level multiplied by power level.

Nobody ever said that.

Super exciting guide states it.

Super Exciting Guide said that the fusion is more of a multiplication than an addition. It never said it's a straight multiplication of both power levels.

Perfectionist-Cell wrote: Fusion is power level multiplied by power level.

Nobody ever said that.

Can a mode close this thread? Don't wanna backseat but this is a guy promoting his youtube channel.

I finally found exactly what I was looking for. http://i64.tinypic.com/1twkmd.png That there is a Universe busting attack and it was created by Super Saiyan God Goku's Kamehameha and Beerus' (who was suppressing himself to near Goku's level) energy blast. So it's really a question of if Beerus at f...

If Cell can potentially destroy the solar system with single Kamehameha, then Beerus, who is very much FAR stronger than him, is very much capable of dong damage on a much larger scale than him. I mean, he did cancel out punches that produced shock-waves powerful enough to turn the universe into a ...

Depends how hard you believe Vegeto was trying against Merged Zamasu who we know is much weaker than Jiren. Shin said that Jiren was on a whole other level compared to anything they faced. Do you think Vegeto was on a whole other level compared to Zamasu?

I'll concede to the idea that Goku fought Fat Buu without his power going down from when he faced Vegeta, but know that this can only be proved in the absence of feats and statements, and that it won't deny the other interpretations as well. I'm a fan of Fat Buu using what he had already unlocked, ...

We know that he concealed his power upon showing up, because Goku and Gohan had already sensed it before Fat Buu went back to using it, when Gohan and Vegeta thought that he could be dealt with in between. He didn't even conceal it. He simply wasn't using it. He can't control his own power. That's ...

Fat Buu was operating at the same level against Goku that he was against Majin Vegeta. He can't control his power. It's doubtful he had much left in the tank. Nothing points to that. We see though that his power is affected by his level of anger, and nothing is shown that he can't control his power...

My opinion is that Pure Evil Buu is of equal power to Pure Buu, given that they're both fundamentally the same being. The reason for him being only a portion of the original Fat Buu's power and yet still equal to Pure Buu, who in turn gave Goku more trouble than Fat Buu did, is that the Pure Evil B...

in the official release of dbgt perfect files, is written that gogeta is tens to dozens times stronger than a normal saiyan, so you can say even dozens and then gogeta at max power is 96 xvegeta- and no, he's not hundreds times stronger, because, if it was, that thing would be written in dbgt perfe...

logically if gogeta is tens of times stronger than Goku/vegeta it means he is 20-90 times stronger than vegeta, where 20 times is the bare minimum and 90 times is the max he can be. if gogeta was hundreds of times stronger, it should be written in dbgt perfect files, but there is wrote tens of time...

If we really want to make the "first person to lay a hand on me" thing work, we could assume that Goku's use of a punch on Frieza means that Beerus probably cleaned Frieza's clock by using a ki attack rather than a melee one. Or just assume it was a retcon which it was. To me, backstory a...

KBABZ wrote: If we really want to make the "first person to lay a hand on me" thing work, we could assume that Goku's use of a punch on Frieza means that Beerus probably cleaned Frieza's clock by using a ki attack rather than a melee one.

Or just assume it was a retcon which it was.

All this talk just to make you get the idea it goes both ways: a conjecture is also thinking there cannot be another change. Besides, Gogeta being switched for Vegito actually does make things different -- possibly appreciably so, in theory. Vegeta doesn't know the dance; which is also the main rea...

... And how does that equate "this means he could not change anything else"? It's been twelve posts and you still are not realizing it doesn't make sense to talk about some foreclosure effect just because he planned to use Gogeta and deciding to switch him for Vegito? Again I'm sticking w...