Kanzenshuu

Well, while we always knew that both Freezer and Cell had a lot more potential than they showed in their fights (had they properly trained), I don't think this is the case for Kid Boo. I've always seen Kid Bu like the androids, in the sense that they have the strength they have but they can't get st...

They were full power SSJ, but still kids, so I think they weren't as strong as FP SSJ Goku in the Cell games although they were well above the other SSJ Forms. If #18 had 3.000.000 units more or less, and Imperfect Cell sat at 6.000.000, then I would put Trunks and Goten at between 8.000.000 and 8.5...

He feared the possibility of SSJs long before Goku turned into one. The first ever mention of SSJ in the manga is by Freeza when he is talking to himself, I believe, even though he had already killed pretty much all saiyans to prevent them from rebelling agaisnt him, which shows just how much that ...

Because, after his defeat on Namek, he could just have trained for 1 month, become way stronger than anybody, and then come to Earth and wipe out Goku and the rest. This makes him look stupid. It makes it look like he was afraid of SSJs simply because he was too lazy to train a bit. Heck, if the mo...

So taken from Freeza's recent quotes for the movie says that even Majin Boo isn't a match for him which I have no idea why Freeza even knows about Majin Boo let alone having his body in hell? This BoG stuff is creating quite the mind fuck, anyone agree? It's FnF stuff technically, not Battle of God...

It's because the people in charge can't (or won't, if attributed to malice) grasp 1. Gohan being stronger than everybody else 2. while his hair is black. The entire fucking point of Mystic was that transformations were wrong and bad. First post nailed it. The advantage of mystic Gohan was to be abl...

SSJ sure is amazing, making Goku's condition go back to its normal state. I do wonder why they don't just turn SSJ after that whenever they are tired or injured. It would be even more conveniente than a senzu. And yes, your extreme example is totally comparable to what I said. Well, of course it is...

There's only one character stated to have rage boosts in the manga: Gohan. And its explained why he has rage boosts, namely because he, as a saiyan-human hybrid, has vast reserves of power but he has trouble accessing them without an emotional trigger. That's only the first explanation given by Veg...

No, I just stated what I think is the most likely thing he meant. I don't really care if you agree or not. There's a limit between interpreting something and transforming it into something different, and you crossed that limit without any kind of doubt. Here's the original statement: "My feeli...

Sure, buddy, everybody spins and denies reality except you. That's why Freeza = Cell in power and only you see it. Not everybody, but you certainly did it. You spinned Toriyama's words to the extreme of saying that he said the OPPOSITE of what he really said. You could've said that "he forgot ...

What Toriyama meant what that he originally thought of it as something like 10x. However, when he got to that part, he realized that the numbers he had used regarding Goku's Kaioken and Freeza's power percentages during the fight, meant that what made sense was for SSJ to be something like x50, and...

Goku is capable of sustaining Kaioken x10, and he can manage Kaioken x20 for a burst. The KK is a technique that forces the body over its limits in order to achieve a greater strength. Even if Goku was capable of sustaining KKx10, it surely wasn't for free. Any time after the fight on Namek where h...

Hahahahah wow, it can't be that hard to understand a simple sentence like the one Toriyama says, can it? Let's take this as an example: 1) He envisioned SSJ as a 10x multiplier, but had already plotted/wrote out that Freeza was 2x stronger than Kaioken x20. Therefore, it was assumed by Assistant-kun...

How do you know he was weakened that much though? He seemed fine, just shaken. Well, in DB the violence wasn't really explicit so you can't judge the extent of an injury only for how it looks, you also have to consider what is said about it. Raditz for example, I wouldn't say he seemed really injur...

We actually do have official numbers for the SSJ multipliers up to 3. Do you not follow them Freezamite ? You mean those "official" numbers taken from the Daizenshuu? The same ones even Toriyama had to explain in an interview that didn't represent what he had drawn on the manga? ;) Well t...

We actually do have official numbers for the SSJ multipliers up to 3. Do you not follow them Freezamite ? You mean those "official" numbers taken from the Daizenshuu? The same ones even Toriyama had to explain in an interview that didn't represent what he had drawn on the manga? ;) Well t...

Coola could train 4 months to surpass SSJ4 We'd need to know how much of a multiplier SSJ4 is to begin with. I saw a theory in a site that could be applied: - Oozaru = x10 - Super Saiyan = x50 - Ascended Super Saiyan = x55 - Ultra Super Saiyan = x65 - Full Power Super Saiyan = x65 - Super Saiyan 2 ...

the base state has a limit that can't be surpassed, and that limit has to be reached in order to become a SSJ (except for the ones that can turn SSJ without training, like Goten or Trunks). By the way, Freezer was in the Top 5 of DB villains in terms of strength: Bu > Perfect Cell = Majin Dabra = F...

Senzu beans were never stated to cure an illness, weren't it? I have always taken the virus as a side effect of abusing the kaioh ken. The kaioh ken was a technique that destroyed one's own body in order to achieve much greater levels of strength, that damage (at least the physically visible damage)...

I didn't like that comment from Beerus either. Makes Feeza seem less weak, but at the same time makes Goku pathetic. Goku improved a lot since Freeza saga. I don't need numbers, just makes sense to me that after all those years of improvement: Base Goku > Freeza. In GT, Base Goku vs Freeza and Cell...