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by Zephyr
Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:18 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Was Goku screaming at Gohan to kill Cell out of character?
Replies: 34
Views: 635

Re: Was Goku screaming at Gohan to kill Cell out of character?

My more serious answer: I think Goku wanting Cell dead after losing and being outclassed is consistent with him being more pragmatic once he's lost the glorified "tournament match" he treats these life and death situations as. Him letting Vegeta go once the latter has been completely neut...
by Zephyr
Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Buu's reincarnation should have been Goku's child.
Replies: 14
Views: 365

Re: Buu's reincarnation should have been Goku's child.

I like Oob as an ending for Goku's character. Throughout Dragon Ball Goku gradually moves from a student to a master. Along the way, many of his enemies and rivals turn into allies and friends. Along the way, he transcends nearly every wall in his path, leaving all of his rivals in the dust, and hel...
by Zephyr
Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:37 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Android Saga's Infamous "Lets do nothing to stop the upcoming threat" scene
Replies: 83
Views: 1674

Re: The Android Saga's Infamous "Lets do nothing to stop the upcoming threat" scene

I admittedly am not a fan of Jackie Chan movies or shonen anime. That isn't to say I can't watch them, but that they have to be good on their own merit to work for me. This begs the question: Do people need to understand Wuxia and relate to the real-life psychology of athletes you're describing in ...
by Zephyr
Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Android Saga's Infamous "Lets do nothing to stop the upcoming threat" scene
Replies: 83
Views: 1674

Re: The Android Saga's Infamous "Lets do nothing to stop the upcoming threat" scene

I promise you I am not trying to write long posts here, there's just a lot to say. As a result, I made my point clear: Parody isn't exempt from criticism. This scene largely exists to patch a hole in Toriyama's story: The cast has the means to stop the threat 3 years in advance, meaning the arc woul...
by Zephyr
Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The Android Saga's Infamous "Lets do nothing to stop the upcoming threat" scene
Replies: 83
Views: 1674

Re: The Android Saga's Infamous "Lets do nothing to stop the upcoming threat" scene

I'm really not sure what more there is to say about this topic that hasn't been said hundreds of times across dozens of threads in recent years. But since we're doing this again, I might as well try to say it better this time, I guess. There are several components here that render this scene wholly ...
by Zephyr
Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:59 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 1206
Views: 110046

Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

With all due respect, while Dragon Ball Super and other spin-offs like GT bring in new elements and characters, they are expansions rather than the "central continuity" of the original work. And I actually agree with the users above who mentioned that Dragon Ball Super doesn't have a well...
by Zephyr
Sun Jun 02, 2024 10:26 am
Forum: Website & Community Discussion
Topic: Splitting Up "General Franchise Discussion"
Replies: 11
Views: 596

Re: Splitting Up "General Franchise Discussion"

Rafa already said some of this, but to echo it: The problem is if there's separate sub forums for both groups in General Franchise Discussion (which covers the original three anime, movies, specials, etc) you would also need to create sub-forums for each in the Kai, Super and eventual Daima sub-for...
by Zephyr
Sun Jun 02, 2024 10:15 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 1206
Views: 110046

Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

Super can't even decide on a so-called "core continuity" for itself , much less sensibly serve as one for the entire franchise. Dragon Ball Super is very clear in its continuity and is perfectly aligned with what was established by Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. So watch this game depict ...
by Zephyr
Fri May 31, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragon Ball goes beyond EOZ what would you like to see
Replies: 43
Views: 1096

Re: If Dragon Ball goes beyond EOZ what would you like to see

If you asked me this three months ago, I'd have said that there's still plenty of goofy martial drama to go around. The most obvious thing is a "2nd Tournament of Power", with new forms and characters in the equation, like Broli, Oob, Ultra Ego, Black Freeza, Orange Piccolo, and Beast Goha...
by Zephyr
Fri May 31, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: Website & Community Discussion
Topic: Splitting Up "General Franchise Discussion"
Replies: 11
Views: 596

Splitting Up "General Franchise Discussion"

To be blunt: topics surrounding things like television airings, dubs, home releases, picture quality, audio quality, and related minutia are deeply uninteresting to me at this point in my fandom. And there are an absolute ton of them on the front page of the General Franchise Discussion sub-forum. T...
by Zephyr
Thu May 30, 2024 7:17 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 1206
Views: 110046

Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

Frankly, the Z and Super focus shouldn't really be surprising to anyone, or even come across as egregious given what the Sparking series is. Yeah, it's a shame that pre-Raditz material continues to not get as much play. In a perfect world, any game would give original manga stuff priority over suppl...
by Zephyr
Wed May 22, 2024 10:18 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1273
Views: 101528

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

Sorry for the late reply, been busy. The entire cast of Yu Yu Hakusho, Ranma 1/2, Cobra Kai, Evil Dead, Invincible, heck, even Sailor Moon could be considered characters who are parodies of superheroes and kung-fu movies, who don't want to be superheroes, but who do end up doing good things as a res...
by Zephyr
Mon May 20, 2024 11:44 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1273
Views: 101528

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

Nobody's arguing that Goku needs to be a superhero, he can be just a guy who's out there to fight strong people who ends up saving the world by pure accident. The problem in my humble opinion is that Goku's a bad written one, often veering into pure unlikable territory after Toriyama's decided he's...
by Zephyr
Sat May 18, 2024 10:06 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1273
Views: 101528

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

I think about the only time in Super where Goku genuinely seemed shook about something happening to others was his rage at learning that Zamasu had killed Chichi and Goten in the future... and that scene was anime-only and therefore probably a Toei original. There was also the time when Geran tried...
by Zephyr
Tue May 14, 2024 10:01 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1273
Views: 101528

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

Sometimes, you just gotta learn to enjoy things for what they are rather than what you want them to be. Agreed. That's why I've embraced that Dragon Ball is simply Goku's journey through the wacky never ending kung fu tournament that is life. When I'm hungry for something besides that, it's fun tha...
by Zephyr
Wed May 08, 2024 1:16 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 30304
Views: 3698618

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Training solo isn't as effective as training with a partner. Goku wanted Gohan to be a Super Saiyan in the first place so he could be a good sparring partner. Even if Gohan knew about the Room, in a timeline where Goku is dead he lacks the best teacher and sparring partner he could have hoped for. I...
by Zephyr
Sat May 04, 2024 1:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 52
Views: 2369

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

As far as Future Bulma sending Trunks to save Goku instead of going to stop Gero and then save Goku....I guess Bulma learned to respect the code of the martial artist in her middle age? Product of her losing her martial arts loving best friend, her martial arts loving ex, and her martial arts lovin...
by Zephyr
Sat May 04, 2024 12:17 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 52
Views: 2369

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

Vegeta gave Goku these options: - Goku fight Vegeta - Vegeta kills innocent people Seeing that Goku doesn't like innocent people getting killed, then he was forced to fight him. Goku listening to Kaioshin would result in Vegeta killing more people. Goku explained why he didn't use SSJ3, he wanted t...
by Zephyr
Fri May 03, 2024 5:33 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 52
Views: 2369

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

While I think the above does go too easy on Vegeta, the fact is that Goku's presence was what allowed Babidi to tempt Vegeta. If Goku hadnt been around, I doubt Vegeta would go "MWA HAHA! I WILL BECOME EVIL TO BEAT GOHAN UP" or anything like that. I mean, there was plenty of negative emot...
by Zephyr
Fri May 03, 2024 3:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 52
Views: 2369

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

Vegeta isn't to blame for Goku agreeing to fight him, he threatened Kaioshin, told Bobbidi to transport them away from the tournament grounds, and powered up to Super Saiyan 2 out of his own free will. Let's also not pretend that Goku didn't go to unnecessary lengths to indulge Vegeta. He was smilin...