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by Zephyr
Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 178
Views: 6352

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

But yeah I'm not a fan of the more modern material putting a spin that everything about Goku from his love of fighting to his appetite to his pure heart comes from his lineage. The original run also tries to spin his love of fighting as being the result of 'nature' rather than 'nurture', but I've n...
by Zephyr
Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:59 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution
Replies: 44
Views: 1985

Re: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution

Goku has to be Asian/Chinese, it's practically in his DNA as a character. But even if he wasn't explicitly Asian, people would still complain about whitewashing in the film. Practically any Hollywood adaptation of an anime, even if they completely change the setting and even if the character isn't ...
by Zephyr
Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:32 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 178
Views: 6352

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

The interesting thing about Goten and Trunks is their losing interest in fighting is the exact same thing Kame Sennin feared would happen to Goku and Krillin and went out of his way to prevent. Kame Sennin worried that if Goku and Krillin thought they were the best at their young age they wouldn't ...
by Zephyr
Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:01 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 178
Views: 6352

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

They did address why he changed his POV. Gotenks had gotten absorbed and Gohan was getting his ass handed to him by Majin Buu. It's not like he could stick to his "let the new generation take charge" mindset when the new generation was getting slaughtered. Goku: "maybe the next gener...
by Zephyr
Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:49 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 178
Views: 6352

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

The "next generation takes over" thread gets propped up because Goku's generation took over. But just because the story showed his generation take over from the previous one doesn't mean it needs to show the next one taking over from his. Dragon Ball was never a story about following succe...
by Zephyr
Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:25 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 178
Views: 6352

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Yeah, if they were willing to go past the original story's ending they probably would have done that in the first place.
by Zephyr
Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:57 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
Replies: 137
Views: 11570

Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator

I'm generally in the "Dragon Ball ended in 1995" camp, but what happens from here on is definitely going to be different in some specific ways. Part of what made me interested in Super was the idea of "where would Toriyama have gone next, after Boo?", and even if the answers we g...
by Zephyr
Fri Mar 08, 2024 11:47 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.
Replies: 321
Views: 16367

Re: Akira Toriyama Passes Away.

I don't really know what to say that hasn't already been said. It still doesn't feel real. I'm not really crying, but seeing what a lot of people are saying is making me tear up. I will say it does warm my heart a bit to see posters who haven't been around for a while showing up to pay their respect...
by Zephyr
Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:59 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: Making a Better Dragon Ball Monopoly
Replies: 0
Views: 56

Making a Better Dragon Ball Monopoly

There are two Dragon Ball versions of Monopoly that I know of, one focusing on the Cell arc, and the other focusing on the Tournament of Power: https://www.pro-bems.com/IMAGES/images_1/JDSMONOPOLYDBZ/m/JDSMONOPOLYDBZ_4.jpg https://i0.wp.com/sevensense.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/monopoly-dragon-b...
by Zephyr
Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Well, no, I'm talking about what's necessary. Dragon Ball is a complete story. Nothing in Super was/is necessary; it's effectively a side-story taking place during a timeskip in Dragon Ball's story. It is the Optional Comedic Sequel™. It going on longer than the original run (or having someone's ab...
by Zephyr
Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Well, no, I'm talking about what's necessary. Dragon Ball is a complete story. Nothing in Super was/is necessary; it's effectively a side-story taking place during a timeskip in Dragon Ball's story. It is the Optional Comedic Sequel™. It going on longer than the original run (or having someone's abs...
by Zephyr
Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

We are mining content from a series that ended 30 years ago. Yeah, I don't know exactly what people are expecting from Super, on the whole. It, like GT before it, is a superfluous 'victory lap' after the ending happened. This is all bonus content. Post-game. That the series ended, and ended decades...
by Zephyr
Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:21 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 30262
Views: 3563251

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

I can't believe we have to put the story of Bojack's universe on hold for this.
by Zephyr
Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Saiyan 3
Replies: 7
Views: 557

Re: Super Saiyan 3

Loved Super Saiyan 3's design ever since I first caught glimpses of it as action figures and promo art. It's just cool. But it's also kinda fucking silly. An insane exaggeration of what Super Saiyan's design already does. Yet, it's still just cool. I like that it aesthetically manages to straddle th...
by Zephyr
Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:26 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Think of fusion dance as doing the Tai Chi form. if someone does a mistake, then it will feel wrong and won't feel natural. When someone does it properly it will feel smooth and natural. Going from one move to the next will feel easy. Now if they discover that there are other fusion dance and perfe...
by Zephyr
Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:13 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

super michael wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:05 amFat and Skinny Gotenks are failed fusion, for when Goten and Trunks does the fusion dance wrong. There is no perfect those forms.
Well I'd sure hate for something funny and subversive to happen in Dragon Ball.
by Zephyr
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:48 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20084

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Enjoyed the chapter for what it was. Not really anything narratively substantial here, but seeing the Saiyans hanging out at Beerus' planet and having a little fight club is nice.

Fat Gotenks should come around more often, train up, and develop his own unique style of fighting.
by Zephyr
Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How would you introduce Dragon Ball to Gen Alpha?
Replies: 69
Views: 2237

Re: How would you introduce Dragon Ball to Gen Alpha?

Agreed. Not only is he a great villain, he has connections to the Crane School so knowing that he's a morally bankrupt assassin provides context for why Tenshinhan is going down the wrong path when he's introduced. Yeah, it's also treated as a big reveal when Chaozu uses the Dodonpa and everyone, i...