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- Wed May 08, 2024 1:16 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
- Replies: 30289
- Views: 3674227
Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Training solo isn't as effective as training with a partner. Goku wanted Gohan to be a Super Saiyan in the first place so he could be a good sparring partner. Even if Gohan knew about the Room, in a timeline where Goku is dead he lacks the best teacher and sparring partner he could have hoped for. I...
- Sat May 04, 2024 1:39 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1560
Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
As far as Future Bulma sending Trunks to save Goku instead of going to stop Gero and then save Goku....I guess Bulma learned to respect the code of the martial artist in her middle age? Product of her losing her martial arts loving best friend, her martial arts loving ex, and her martial arts lovin...
- Sat May 04, 2024 12:17 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1560
Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Vegeta gave Goku these options: - Goku fight Vegeta - Vegeta kills innocent people Seeing that Goku doesn't like innocent people getting killed, then he was forced to fight him. Goku listening to Kaioshin would result in Vegeta killing more people. Goku explained why he didn't use SSJ3, he wanted t...
- Fri May 03, 2024 5:33 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1560
Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
While I think the above does go too easy on Vegeta, the fact is that Goku's presence was what allowed Babidi to tempt Vegeta. If Goku hadnt been around, I doubt Vegeta would go "MWA HAHA! I WILL BECOME EVIL TO BEAT GOHAN UP" or anything like that. I mean, there was plenty of negative emot...
- Fri May 03, 2024 3:03 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
- Replies: 51
- Views: 1560
Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Vegeta isn't to blame for Goku agreeing to fight him, he threatened Kaioshin, told Bobbidi to transport them away from the tournament grounds, and powered up to Super Saiyan 2 out of his own free will. Let's also not pretend that Goku didn't go to unnecessary lengths to indulge Vegeta. He was smilin...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:42 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/29/24!)
- Replies: 2601
- Views: 527575
Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/29/24!)
Maybe they do have Ki, but as opposed to other villains who have natural super-strong Ki like Freeza, #17 and #18's are those of regular weak impossible to distinguish human Ki? Just a stretch. That's pretty much how I see it. They're able to go toe-to-toe with Goku and co. because of their cyberne...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:22 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/29/24!)
- Replies: 2601
- Views: 527575
Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/29/24!)
It wasn't really meant to be an assessment of Gero's characterization. It was simply a joking aside, no different from the Trunks/#17 observation. Fair enough! I thought it might have been, but I wasn't completely sure. I always took even in DBZ that they have no Ki when idle . When they're launchi...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:46 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/29/24!)
- Replies: 2601
- Views: 527575
Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/29/24!)
Regarding Gero's son dying as his motivation for revenge: even if the interview did say that Goku killed Gero's son and that was the reason for his obsession with getting revenge, that interview came out in 2014, so I'm not sure why it's even worth mentioning in a GT review, especially in order to a...
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:17 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: If Zamasu came back
- Replies: 50
- Views: 4903
Re: If Zamasu came back
Oh, by "coming back" you meant "getting stronger". What makes the "Freeza just needed push ups lol" complaint fall flat, from like, a genre-literacy point of view, is that there's a difference between physical and mental/spiritual training. I can't expect someone who's ...
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:04 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: If Zamasu came back
- Replies: 50
- Views: 4903
Re: If Zamasu came back
Shenlong restoring a dead person to life feels like an "asspull"?
Sorry Bora, back in the ground you go.
Sorry Bora, back in the ground you go.
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:07 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Frieza's role more obvious than it seems
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1743
Re: Frieza's role more obvious than it seems
Bulma: "Seriously Vegeta, get a job."
Freeza: "Ah, Vegeta-san. I am in need of a babysitter."
Freeza: "Ah, Vegeta-san. I am in need of a babysitter."
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:58 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 277
- Views: 20030
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
For the record, Takeda took over just as Perfect Cell appeared, so unless Kondou was pulling a Torishima by telling Toriyama what to do even after he had left Dragon Ball , then Gohan becoming the lead wouldn't have been his idea. Unless this was something Kondo helped cook up before he left, the s...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:10 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 277
- Views: 20030
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
I'm surprised he knew going into the Boo arc he was going to end it and still tried to make Gohan the lead character. I just assumed the attempt to make Gohan the main character was to try to make the manga run a bit longer, while acknowledging Goku had been exhausted as a character. I think the de...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:03 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 277
- Views: 20030
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
But yeah I'm not a fan of the more modern material putting a spin that everything about Goku from his love of fighting to his appetite to his pure heart comes from his lineage. The original run also tries to spin his love of fighting as being the result of 'nature' rather than 'nurture', but I've n...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:59 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution
- Replies: 55
- Views: 5175
Re: Justin Chatwin apologizes for Dragonball Evolution
Goku has to be Asian/Chinese, it's practically in his DNA as a character. But even if he wasn't explicitly Asian, people would still complain about whitewashing in the film. Practically any Hollywood adaptation of an anime, even if they completely change the setting and even if the character isn't ...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:32 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 277
- Views: 20030
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
The interesting thing about Goten and Trunks is their losing interest in fighting is the exact same thing Kame Sennin feared would happen to Goku and Krillin and went out of his way to prevent. Kame Sennin worried that if Goku and Krillin thought they were the best at their young age they wouldn't ...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:01 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 277
- Views: 20030
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
They did address why he changed his POV. Gotenks had gotten absorbed and Gohan was getting his ass handed to him by Majin Buu. It's not like he could stick to his "let the new generation take charge" mindset when the new generation was getting slaughtered. Goku: "maybe the next gener...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:49 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 277
- Views: 20030
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
The "next generation takes over" thread gets propped up because Goku's generation took over. But just because the story showed his generation take over from the previous one doesn't mean it needs to show the next one taking over from his. Dragon Ball was never a story about following succe...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:25 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 277
- Views: 20030
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Yeah, if they were willing to go past the original story's ending they probably would have done that in the first place.
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 3:57 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
- Replies: 150
- Views: 17532
Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
I'm generally in the "Dragon Ball ended in 1995" camp, but what happens from here on is definitely going to be different in some specific ways. Part of what made me interested in Super was the idea of "where would Toriyama have gone next, after Boo?", and even if the answers we g...