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by batistabus
Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

Innagadadavida wrote:Mark is Maaku rearranged.
Mark is supposed to be Akuma rearranged and turned into an actual name. Maaku is how the Japanese would pronounce Mark. I'm guessing you knew this, just had a brain fart.

And I agree with the rest of what you said.
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback
Replies: 1706
Views: 151738

Re: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

I feel like everyone was at their best in those clips. It gets me excited for tonight's episode.
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

Mark was never brought up in the manga. But it doesn't change the story like the title-joke does. In the end, we'll see what Funi does, but I'd rather not be reminded of there past dub with THAT name. His name being Satan isn't a plot point. It's just ironic. And I agree. I'd rather not see Hercule...
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

But I already explained why the stage name argument doesn't matter since it's never brought up in the manga. Mark was never brought up in the manga. This isn't going anywhere. I'm not convincing you, you're not convincing me. I understand everything you're saying and I see your point. I'd like an a...
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

MR.Mark wrote:
batistabus wrote: that's not Toriyama's intended use of Mark, if you're going to use that argument.
And (the H-word) is not Toriyama's intended use of ANYTHING, which is why I'm for the use of Mark.
Since Mr. Satan has a real name, its Toriyama's intention to give him a stage name. Which Hercule would be.
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

I get what you're saying. It isn't assumed that Mr. Satan isn't his real name. And I get everything else you're saying. But that's not Toriyama's intended use of Mark, if you're going to use that argument. Censorship isn't ever good, but it's going to happen. And there's no way of not changing what ...
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

But you're lying to the audience... I'd rather not have any more people think his name is H ercule. I'm not saying it's a good choice, it just serves its purpose. Mr. Devil or Mr. Demon would work or on a less effective level Mr. Savage or even Mr. Awesome. Obviously Mr. Satan is the best choice bu...
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

I just think it just has no place in the Z Kai series. Hercules/Mark= no difference in relation to Satan. At the very least Mark is a pun on Akuma or whatever, even though it's lost in English. I've explained why Hercule still serves as a joke and why Mark eliminates that. Akuma does work as a pun,...
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

2. Mark uses a title because he is a world famous fighter and that makes them seem "cooler". Just so we're on the same page here, you ARE in favor of Mark being his real name? Because I was never arguing jokes to begin with. Just the validness of the Mark name itself. So by acknowledging ...
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

If it's (the H-word), then you at least have one of the jokes . Unless of course you want to argue there's ironic humor behind Hercules-like named characters befriending a DEMON and saving the world. Mr. Satan saves the world. He has everybody call him Mr. Satan, but his real name is Mark. Jokes: 1...
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

Really? I thought it was the Irony of the savior of the world being referred to as Satan. You seem to be implying the joke is that the name is manly, and he doesn't want people to find out about Mark. This is what I brought up, and to acknowledge that kinda goes against you not wanting Mark to be u...
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

How about calling Goku Kakarot before Raditz showed up? Well, technically, his Father and what not were calling him that before Raditz showed up, we just never saw it. :mrgreen: So what your trying to say is is, how bout we call Mr. Satan Mark, before Videl shows up...Gohan, how to fly..errrr. Yeah...
by batistabus
Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

Well, my reasoning is in the other part of what you quoted. Now bolded for your convenience. :D But basically, it would be almost the same thing as referring to Goku a Saiya-jin pre-Raditz. Sure, Mark has absolutely no narrative repurcussions like Goku's ancestry, but the fact remains that it does ...
by batistabus
Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

Pulled out of his ass during an interview, pulled out of his ass while drawing the manga, what's the difference? Who cares if he came up with it later? Why fans would prefer a made up Funi name VS. something Toriyama came up with himself is beyond me. I don't prefer Hercule. Mark would be cool and ...
by batistabus
Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly or not, but do you guys actually think they would even consider Mark? I mean, I can see why you would want it (even though I personally do not agree it would be the best choice), but do you actually think they would do it? If they wanted a name that was a...
by batistabus
Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?

I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly or not, but do you guys actually think they would even consider Mark? I mean, I can see why you would want it (even though I personally do not agree it would be the best choice), but do you actually think they would do it?
by batistabus
Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast?
Replies: 172
Views: 12028

Re: A name change for Mr. Satan in the Broadcast release? Please

It'll be Hercule for the broadcast version and Mr. Satan for the home release.

Calling him Mark wouldn't make sense. His name isn't Mark Satan; Mr. Satan is his stage name. That would be like having an English subbed version of wrestling calling The Undertaker by his real name.
by batistabus
Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:21 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: 6 New Characters?
Replies: 1
Views: 655

6 New Characters?

"Additionally, the folks at Saiyan Island got a quick interview with a Namco-Bandai representative at E3 this past week, in which it was divulged that six characters that have "never" appeared in a DragonBall video game before will show up in Raging Blast 2." Who could they be? T...
by batistabus
Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback
Replies: 1706
Views: 151738

Re: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

I think some of Kelamis's deliveries were just plain awesome and very Goku like, mainly the attack stuff. Problem is when he'd talk his vocal inflection was just plain annoying to listen to. I'd rather listen to Sean's "KameHameHa-dump" then hear Peter's Goku have a conversation with some...
by batistabus
Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback
Replies: 1706
Views: 151738

Re: "DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

By your reasoning, any male voice actor could be Son Goku with an accurate script. "come magic cloud" guy comes to mind, I don't think he could be Goku with an accurate script. Ian Corlet, Petter Kelemis and Sean Schemmel all have a similar vocal type, so by your reasoning , all three wer...