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- Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:16 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What do you think is the multiplier for Orange Piccolo
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2495
Re: What do you think is the multiplier for Orange Piccolo
Considering Orange Piccolo rivals UI Goku then it must be around 100 times his Ultimate form since I have UI around that strong compared to SSB. Toriyama stated that Orange Piccolo is on par with Goku and Vegeta. He said this in regards to the movie. What does on par mean here? Well Orange Piccolo ...
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:27 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 267
- Views: 15469
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Do you think by any chance that Toriyama had any level of input or involvement in the final arc of the manga coming up before his passing? I believe Toyo said that the arc after Super Hero will tie into the end of Z didn’t he?
- Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:54 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
- Replies: 267
- Views: 15469
Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
When is Daima suppose to take place exactly? Are the rumors true that it will be after Buu but before the start of Super?
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:08 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
- Topic: Funi's Kai dub and accuracy
- Replies: 99
- Views: 34817
Re: Funi's Kai dub and accuracy
After reading all the pages of this thread, yeah I can agree that Kai’s dub was, at worst, a 9/10 in accuracy. You aren’t blatantly being misled by the storytelling though like with the old FUNi dub. Small talk moments that change it up here and there isn’t enough to annoy me. With Kai, you aren’t r...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:50 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2189
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
The two days of training were not even supposed to be used to get stronger, Goku was only referring to perfecting the technique. Anyway, Goku was guessing how strong they would get when fusing, but he didn’t have background knowledge to state anything concrete. Most of Boo arc has similar dynamic, ...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:49 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2189
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
So worst case, SSJ Gotenks was stronger than Fat boo after ROSAT training but it didn’t matter by that time because Super Boo was already born. Unlikely. There is nothing suggesting SS Gotenks was enough for the task, specially when he needed SS3 to start fighting Super Boo on equal terms. Pretty s...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 5:34 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2189
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
SSjin Gotenks (Pre) > Fat Boo is pretty obvious in the manga. It was stated, not contradicted, and the story itself shows it. Fat Boo was no problem, but Piccolo only started to stress when Evil Boo was born. I agree, but I think Gotenks wasn’t necessarily ready his first time going SSJ. Goku said ...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:05 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2189
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
I think the Daizenshuu 7 only says Vegeta and then Chozenshuu (Which is like a Daizenshuu update) adds Goku to the mix. Always found this line really weird. Goten and Trunks are super powerful and fusion is super haxed. Gotenks being on Majin Boo's level should be the bare minimum. I think the &quo...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:17 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2189
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
I don’t see why the entry can’t refer to Base Gotenks. Goku already established that SSJ Gotenks after the 2 days of training would be sufficient to defeating Fat Boo and no indication that Goku wasn’t accurate. SSJ Gotenks was in the ballpark of SSJ3 tier. Because it’s part of a character profile ...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:33 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2189
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
I don’t see why the entry can’t refer to Base Gotenks.
Goku already established that SSJ Gotenks after the 2 days of training would be sufficient to defeating Fat Boo and no indication that Goku wasn’t accurate.
SSJ Gotenks was in the ballpark of SSJ3 tier.
Goku already established that SSJ Gotenks after the 2 days of training would be sufficient to defeating Fat Boo and no indication that Goku wasn’t accurate.
SSJ Gotenks was in the ballpark of SSJ3 tier.
- Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:25 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Worst Dub Errors/Mistranslations
- Replies: 40
- Views: 4998
Re: Worst Dub Errors/Mistranslations
"The power comes from the response to a need, not a desire". Does anyone know what Goku actually said in Kai and the Japanese Z during this dub line? This couldn't be any more untrue. If becoming a SSJ was in response to a need, Gohan and Goku for that matter would have become SSJs much ea...
- Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:47 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Kid Buu's power?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 7039
Re: Kid Buu's power?
I don't see how the manga is against Kid buu being the strongest Buu (it can be argued that it just means above regular Super buu and Buff buu) First being that them saying South Kaioushin was the strongest was to show how even their best and most powerful fighters fell to Boo. It’s meant to prop up...
- Mon May 13, 2019 7:15 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Was Cell displaying the same power against Goku as he was Trunks?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2274
Was Cell displaying the same power against Goku as he was Trunks?
It’s more than stated that SSJ Trunks’s grade states surpassed Cell with a sacrifice of speed. Did Cell not power up until he fought SSJ2 Gohan? Was Cell sticking to this same level when he fought Goku?
Would you say SSJ Trunks grade 3 surpasses post ROSAT SSJ Goku and SSJ Gohan?
Would you say SSJ Trunks grade 3 surpasses post ROSAT SSJ Goku and SSJ Gohan?
- Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:17 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
- Replies: 94
- Views: 25641
Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
You proved me why it was my mistake for getting into arguments with you who's only reliant on twisting anything which goes against his arguments and add new theories and by using "only logical explanation" just grasping at straws and to fit his desperate points even assume that there are ...
- Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:46 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Zamasu's level of power
- Replies: 57
- Views: 13167
Re: Zamasu's level of power
In the anime : Present Zamasu is as strong as Goku SSJ. Future Zamasu seems to be as strong as Goku SSJB (which makes no sense), but it's there. In the manga : Present Zamasu owns Kibito and Shin says that he will be the most talented Kaio Shin. Future Zamasu is less stronger than Future Trunks. an...
- Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:29 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: So.. Jiren or Broly, who is stronger?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 15868
Re: So.. Jiren or Broly, who is stronger?
Does it really matter at this stage? well, yes. Gogeta Blue is quite visibly stronger than Broly FP but Goku UI is just a little stronger than Jiren Limit Break If Goku UI is stronger than Gogeta Blue, that means Jiren, too, is stronger than Broly, because the difference in power between Goku UI an...
- Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:18 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 11225
Re: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
Promotional material can’t be considered? I’m sure it’s worth more than arguments on here. It's worth roughly nothing. Agreed. I could never take unbacked statements like this seriously, when it comes from a faceless goon, who might as well have put their own ideas into it, because I really don't e...
- Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:28 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 11225
Re: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
Promotional material says dumb stuff all the time. Can it be anymore silly than the power boosts 17, Piccolo, Krillin, Gohan, and even a Roshi got in Super. 17 died when kid Buu destroyed earth...what power boost allowed him to rival a god of destruction. Everyone goes “meh” at the idea of Toriyama...
- Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:34 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 11225
Re: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
Can it be anymore silly than the power boosts 17, Piccolo, Krillin, Gohan, and even a Roshi got in Super. 17 died when kid Buu destroyed earth...what power boost allowed him to rival a god of destruction. Everyone goes “meh” at the idea of Toriyama logic. But lose their shit over TOEI logic. So what...
- Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:09 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 11225
Was a statement just put out that SSJ3 Goku = Boohan!?
If that’s the case, then there’s a whole different way to interpret the Boo saga’s convoluted power scaling, which I don’t want to write an entire novel explaining what I think.
Obviously this is referring to SSJ3 Goku Boo arc since SSJ3 Goku in Super is saiyan beyond god realm now.
Obviously this is referring to SSJ3 Goku Boo arc since SSJ3 Goku in Super is saiyan beyond god realm now.