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I’d hardly say being several times above classifies the humans as anywhere near U7 Saiyans. I should probably give them a bump though, specially Goku. Sure he’s on the lower end, but he clearly isn’t anomaly weak. I think he only surpassed Nappa because of his godly training though, that was just 1...

Snip Goten and Trunks might have a good starting point but they never catch up to Gohan. They just ignored getting SSJ which was the period when Gohan trained the most. Even now the line that Gohan's potential could make him the strongest is still a feature. So I'd put him in the top 3 with Broly a...

How would everyone rate characters by potential? While it's something ever-changing there's clearly a trend, Freeza for example has consistent enormous potential. So giving 100 to the highest potential here goes(this is a numbers thread afterall): Angels - 100 - Hard to say how much they train but f...

I guess they'll announce a new season? Otherwise I don't see why they'd do another World Tour.

It's cool and all but I'm ready to move on from the game. The lack of good netcode takes the wind out of me. Watching the tournament is still fun.

Easy, Whis isn't 1,5x stronger than Beerus. You don't put a guy to sleep as easily with just that difference. Hardly what you'd expect from a master like Whis, either. Based on Toriyama's logic I disagree. The difference is probably exacerbated since Whis is Beerus master and knows his weakness eve...

Goku would be at least 60 with Kaioken just against Hit. Manga and Anime have to ignore the interview by Toriyama or everything falls apart. While it was never meant to be taken seriously, those numbers weren't supposed to mean that SSG was less than 2x away from Beerus. If Goku was a 6, with a 10x...

Goku would be at least 60 with Kaioken just against Hit.

Manga and Anime have to ignore the interview by Toriyama or everything falls apart.

I was thinking that perhaps the power levels are massively different in the movies. I wonder if the original power balance: SSJG Goku 6, Beerus 10 and Whis 15 is still prevalent in Toriyama's mind. The Jiren battle is mentioned but we don't know if Goku mastered UI. Toriyama never showed us him usin...

The movie was produced in a cooperative effort between Toriyama and his editors. Just because someone (Iyoku) suggested something, doesn't make it any less valid when the script went back and forth between all parties for two years. The previous movie, Broly, also happened because it was suggested ...

I wish they let AT make this just a Piccolo movie. It was clearly designed to be that way, and I love all the parts Piccolo plays in the movie. Gohan is just so boring of a character. He's still just the same 1 trick pony after all these years. He slacks off, then oh hold up, he pulls a random powe...

I really liked the movie. The worst is Gohan's storyline which going by interviews the relevance of the character was suggested by others. It's the type of story that didn't even need stakes so high. I feel like the fans appreciate focus on others characters, slice of life and more comedy. I for sur...

Patch drops tomorrow!

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https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/dragon-bal ... Z_Patch131

The top 8 for CEO 2022 was hype. I think this game could last another 6 years of relevance with a Season 4 & 5 DLC roster, more single player modes and Rollback Netcode No Labcoat certainly helped. Hopefully the July patch shakes up the game. I wouldn't expect any new content for the game. Mayb...

Since Angels are always in UI, it's easy to make Goku as natural as possible once he dominates the form.

I thought for sure Goku was going to master UI in this arc, with the talk about levels and such. Really hard to predict what's going to happen.

I don't see nobody being crass about the manga, people are just saying what they dislike. This isn't like when the anime was airing and people were rude to Toyotarõ and everything affiliated.. This thread is way better now, even if the quality is dropping. We were all compliments when this arc start...

Toriyama supervises this. While he's not writing it, he's allowing it to happen. Toriyama would never leave UI hanging around back and forth until we reached this point. Which begs the question, does he even care? Is his involvement way overstated for obvious reasons? What's going on? Even whatever ...

The dragging I believe is Toyotarõ's own doing. It was already present in the Moro arc, people were already complaining then. This arc just took it to another extreme and didn't offer the small buffer of Piccolo and the Earthlings having a small role. Super needs a rewrite altogether. It's clear as ...

More of the same. Start of the chapter with Vegeta gaining time is the same plot point as against Pure Boo. Extra points for the mouth blast which is a copy of Gotenks vs Super Boo. UI has become so convoluted that it reached contradiction. There's no direction. This manga has fallen of a cliff sinc...

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Labcoat has been banned for CEO, great news!

It would make sense to keep spoilers on until it releases in the West which is where most of the community is from.

If not I'm probably head out of the thread as well soon.