Kanzenshuu

I think it’s likely that Goku and Vegeta have surpassed Zombie Gas, but I’m not entirely certain about it myself. Maybe this month chapter will shed some light on the subject. About Broly having a zenkai, not likely, since he didn’t underwent the same kind of experience that warranted such power-ups...

In my viewpoint, this line only reinforces that Ultra Ego is, in fact, a suitable way to keep ever increasing battle power, but as Vegeta’s fight suggests, in practice, the technique has a limit and Vegeta might have to figure out the best way to make it work out for him, like Goku is doing with Ult...

Goku doesn’t say Dabra is comparable to Cell at his strongest though. Judging from his fight against SS Gohan, Dabra is only within the range that Cell covered, difficult for a SS, manageable by a SS2. Likewise, Goku only says he's tougher than what he expected after seeing Dabra using magic.

Erasing someone, even from a different universe, is not a Multiversal showing. He isn't affecting the Multiverse, just one guy. In fiction versus, multiversal has multiple tier levels with multiple arbitrary layers of complexity. This is only an example of a character from a very long distance affe...

the Grand Priest has absolutely NO Multiversal showing whatsoever. He erased Merus, who was located in another universe. It wouldn’t be a stretch to say this skill can reach any place in the multiverse. Yes, it would be a massive stretch. Erasing one person means that he can erase the entire Multiv...

SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:35 pm the Grand Priest has absolutely NO Multiversal showing whatsoever.

He erased Merus, who was located in another universe. It wouldn’t be a stretch to say this skill can reach any place in the multiverse.

Either way so the movie characters in BT3 were: Garlic Jr. Super Garlic Jr. Dr. Wheelo Turles Oozaru Turles Lord Slug Giant Slug Salza Cooler Final Form Cooler Meta Cooler Android 13 Super Android 13 Broly Super Saiyan Broly Legendary Super Saiyan Broly Zangya Bojack Bojack Full Power Fat Janemba S...

are we to assume Gotenks was weaker than the third strongest so far Gohan, before entering the RoSaT? Probably. I think the implication is that Gotenks only does stuff (SS3 and other techniques) proving that he has surpassed Vegeta and Gohan (presumably from the fight against Cell) after his traini...

The scan shows each being Ginyu force level individually, then becoming Freeza level individually , the kids beat them up but are weaker than Goku who is weaker than Freeza. It doesn’t specifically frame Abo’s strength as equal to Freeza's in his unfused state. Presumably it’s talking about his mer...

They are equal to Freeza merged, not individually. But the text you just posted doesn't say that? It cites the merging technique as part of Abo’s strength, saying he overwhelms [Base] Gotenks, so this is when Abo showcases strength rivaling Freeza. And recently Abo and Kado were confirmed to be wea...

If they are equal to Freeza individually and an explicitly rusty base Goten and Trunks are equal to them, forcing them to fuse, that contradicts the BOG statement. They are equal to Freeza merged, not individually. In the manga version Gotenks never goes ss1 and Goku seems to go ss2, and only becau...

Base Goku can't have closed the gap much if at all and still be weaker than Freeza in base. Why not? Because gotenks pre was that much stronger than goku (in the same form) and freeza in the boo arc that goku can't have surpassed gotenks without also surpassing freeza in bog. Chouzenshuu 4 implies ...

TobyS wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:47 pm Base Goku can't have closed the gap much if at all and still be weaker than Freeza in base.

Why not?

They are not directly compared, so it’s difficult to tell, but I think it would be doable because Goku had 4 years to catch up to Gotenks and Gohan’s level. Granted everyone was at least as strong as they were in Majin Boo arc, but even in his ultimate form Gohan didn’t leave much impression on Beer...

The Broly panel being included alongside Grand Priest confused the living hell out of people, including @SupaChronicles. It was Uchida who name dropped Broly and Toyotaro ignores all those names in his rankings, citing Goku, Vegeta and Granolah as the 3 strongest in the universe. Uchida likely antec...

Hmm. I'll have to rewatch this whole segment. But what about the sparring later? Didn't Piccolo Vs Gohan suggest they were on par with each other later? Piccolo was training Gohan from the basics , so he wasn’t being serious about it. Gohan gets it when Goku picks up Piccolo as the 5th fighter on h...

PowerLevelGuy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:22 pm So you think the only reason Gohan did well against a stronger Tagoma is because he caught him off guard and that Base Gohan doesn't actually outperform Piccolo?

Tagoma took no damage from Gohan’s ki blast.

To paraphrase Vegeta, rankings are good and all, but they only reflect a moment in time. They are constantly subject to change. And to be fair, while the word “tough” can be used interchangeably with “strong”, in the light of recent data, we could infer Goku meant “difficult”. After all, Fusion did ...

Re-reading the chapter and Vegeta states explicitly that Broly can't access his full power because he's scared of snapping. Vegeta also says "to battle without losing yourself is an achievement, but you seem unable to unleash your true might" seems pretty explicit that Broly can't access ...

The translation goes like this: "The two entered the Room of Spirit and Time, and hurriedly trained as Gotenks. As a result, Gotenks leveled up so much that his strength surpassed Vegeta and the others." Pretty sure Goku is not name-dropped in that text, though this is not to say Gotenks h...