Kanzenshuu

RandomGuy96 wrote:Of course. And due to being a machine like Android 16, Arale was never brought back.

Even if that were true, all the other machines on Earth were brought back.

Either we explain it logically, or we don't explain it at all. I choose to explain it logically. Logically, spiritual energy comes from nowhere, because it's spiritual. Well, where does physical strength come from IRL? I'd say ki comes from renerating body cells, just like physical strength/toughne...

Infinite energy is science. It exists in DB. I'm fine with that. Boo is magic. Magic doesn't have to follow logic. I don't try to explain magic. But spiritual energy absolutely must obey the laws of thermodynamics? That seems kind of weird to me. I don't and never will believe that one can get powe...

Trunks called them cyborgs, though. The story does explain that #17 and #18 are technically cyborgs on multiple occasions, but they're still called androids. We'll just have to blame Dr. Gero for that. I'd rather call them "Artifical Humans" because they are all made from different origin...

By that logic Cell Games Vegeta is around USSJ2 Trunks. Why's that? Not that I'm agreeing or disagreeing--I just don't see how we got to that conclusion. Vegeta considered 50% MSSJ Goku as the tough guy. Everyone thought he might beat Cell. If resting Goku is in par with the Cell who fought USSJ2 T...

I think they only had to stay Super Saiyan constantly for long enough to get used to it--or master it, if you prefer. They're not going to lose that skill just because they don't stay Super Saiyan constantly after that. Maybe the skill would degrade if they never used Super Saiyan again for the rest...

To be honest, I don't see how people think "artificial human" is vague enough to apply to things like cyborgs. A cyborg isn't an artificial person--it's a person with artificial parts. The exception, of course, being properly artificial cyborgs, e.g. the Terminator (though as I allured to ...

However, 50% MSSJ Goku should be considerably stronger and everyne thought it was Goku's max. Trunks was shocked at his power despite having the power of a USSJ2. 50% MSSJ Goku > USSJ2 Trunks > Initial Perfect Cell ~ Resting MSSJ Goku You're giving decent reasons for your opinion, but that wasn't w...

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Wasn't Kuririn the one who suggested that?

Double checked just to be sure, and no, it was indeed Trunks. In fact, Kuririn even questions it himself by reminding Trunks that he doesn't have much fuel and that his time machine isn't very precise.

It depends on certain factors. Maybe Dende could have made dragon balls capable of reviving people multiple times if they'd asked for it. Maybe it would require sacrificing some wishes (say, stick with one wish per year rather than three), but that wouldn't be so bad. After that, it becomes a questi...

After all, it's exactly like Goku having his first Ki sensing ability when Kame Sennin died, just feeling that unexplainable bad omen digging its way in your guts at the very moment the person you knew died. Do we know that was an example of ki sensing, though? It could also have been option number...

Well, he did seem to forget how time travel works at one point, suggesting that he goes further back in time to stop the androids before they awaken. This could be a result of Toriyama making things up as he went...but couldn't he have had someone else, like Yamcha, suggest this course of action and...

I think one thing we have to accept right away is that a lot of these terms aren't as solidly defined as we think they are. Even taking dictionary definitions into account, there are two or three opposing opinions when it comes to what counts as a cyborg. Is "artificial human" the japanese...

What I'm wondering is how did Gero manage to find a way to convert ki? Since ki is composed of vitality, courage, and state of mind, was he only able to absorb the vitality portion? I don't see how he could mechanically convert courage and state of mind into energy. Like Kaboom said, it shouldn't b...

Victorious wrote:It's just TOEI nonsense IMO. The base kids already fought evenly with Android 18 in the manga.

If by "fought evenly" you mean "got their asses handed to them in no time flat".

No one was probably paying attention. Same reason why Vegeta reached Super Saiyan 2 and didn't get noticed by the others. Also the same reason that no one but Piccolo and Gohan knew how strong Super Saiyan Goku was supposed to be when he fought Android 19. You'd think everyone on Earth would have n...

He was keeping up with him in his resting state which is lower than his 50% But that's also an assumption, not a fact. Cell Games FPSSJ Goku > 50% MSSJ Goku > USSJ2 Trunks > Initial Perfect Cell ~ 10 Days Goku Why can't it be Cell Games FPSSJ Goku > USSJ2 Trunks > 50% MSSJ Goku > Initial Perfect Ce...

I do like how you just assume everybody knows who Goku is, though. Most people in Japan do, at least. Elsewhere is another matter, but hell, how many people outside of Japan knew who Roy and Marth were before Melee ? Of course, I don't think Goku will be in the next Smash Bros. He doesn't originate...

He was keeping up with him in his resting state which is lower than his 50% But that's also an assumption, not a fact. Cell Games FPSSJ Goku > 50% MSSJ Goku > USSJ2 Trunks > Initial Perfect Cell ~ 10 Days Goku Why can't it be Cell Games FPSSJ Goku > USSJ2 Trunks > 50% MSSJ Goku > Initial Perfect Ce...

Here's the cosmos map for the record. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x221/bussani_album/dragon_ball_z/th_landmark_03.jpg Herms posted some good logic in his Guide to the DB Galaxy thread : If Planet Namek isn’t located in the North Galaxy, where is it? The maps of the DB world that have planets ...