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by dbgtFO
Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:59 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Inconsistency with Raditz?
Replies: 50
Views: 4789

Re: Inconsistency with Raditz?

1. Sorry, I don't buy it. Yes, Piccolo and Gohan's surprise attacks hurt Nappa (who was off-guard), and some of Vegeta's surprise attacks hurt Reacoom (who was off-guard), but they were nothing permanent. Reacoom still got back up to beat the crap out of Vegeta, and Nappa was still in tip-top condi...
by dbgtFO
Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Future #17 and... pills?
Replies: 40
Views: 3859

Re: Future #17 and... pills?

Gokû was a former Budôkai champion. It's not impossible that the newspaper might have had "FORMER WORLD CHAMPION OF MARTIAL ARTS DEAD" as a headline one day, and Gero might have spotted it. I always thought that the Z figthers wanted to have nothing to do with the media, so I don't see ho...
by dbgtFO
Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Kaioshin names in the manga
Replies: 15
Views: 2488

Re: Kaioshin names in the manga

It's a funny thing because his name is never actually said from his introduction in Vol 41 ch. 501 until Kid buu is defeated in vol 42 ch. 517. There are two occasions though where he talks about himself. The first one is when he explains Majin Buu's background, where Aku(Super) Buu becomes Junsui(K...
by dbgtFO
Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:37 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Future #17 and... pills?
Replies: 40
Views: 3859

Re: Future #17 and... pills?

But he wasn't monitoring them anymore, so he wouldn't possibly know about Goku's death, meaning the androids had the same power in all timelines. Excellent point. It's possible news reached him somehow, though. Now I must rack my brain to figure out how. :P Gokû was a former Budôkai champion. It's ...
by dbgtFO
Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:29 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So Goku's BP was only 23.000??
Replies: 20
Views: 1766

Re: So Goku's BP was only 23.000??

Ginyu's ki manipulation skills are based solely on the body and not the spirit or the combination of spirit and body. In that sense, it's more like what Vegeta and Nappa did on Earth. So the 23,000 is just the power Goku emits when you ignore the effects his spirit has on his strength. The 90,000 c...
by dbgtFO
Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So Goku's BP was only 23.000??
Replies: 20
Views: 1766

Re: So Goku's BP was only 23.000??

It's not just a matter of how much power Goku has, but what type of control he has over it. The way Goku has learned to control his power might not be the same way Ginyu does ( in fact, it certainly isn't ). When Ginyu tries to do things "his way," it's not going to work that well. Oh I s...
by dbgtFO
Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:57 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So Goku's BP was only 23.000??
Replies: 20
Views: 1766

So Goku's BP was only 23.000??

When Goku arrived on Namek and beat up the Ginyu's it was pretty obvious that he was well above them, his BP actually was at 90.000(but only in bursts). But then Ginyu steps onto the scene and takes Goku's body from him because it was so much stronger than Ginyu's. At first it looks like Ginyu has a...
by dbgtFO
Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:00 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Inconsistency with Raditz?
Replies: 50
Views: 4789

Re: Inconsistency with Raditz?

@ Bussani
That is also a good explanation of why Raditz was afraid of Piccolo's attack, because not only was it close to his power level, it was also concentrated in a single point(his fingertips) which Raditz also notices.
by dbgtFO
Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:44 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why all the hate for Cell and Buu Sagas?
Replies: 113
Views: 12073

Re: Why all the hate for Cell and Buu Sagas?

@ Perfect
When was that? during the ten days before the tournament??
by dbgtFO
Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:22 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 12437
Views: 1749254

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

My theory for the next episode: 1. Vegeta's wrath, 2. Vegeta confronting Krillin & Gohan at Guru's place, 3. The Ginyu Force arriving(it would be nice to see how they are gonna be portrayed), 4. Guldo vs. Krillin & Gohan. All of this seasoned with the spicyness of TFS humour! Don't forget V...
by dbgtFO
Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:14 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 12437
Views: 1749254

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

My theory for the next episode:
1. Vegeta's wrath,
2. Vegeta confronting Krillin & Gohan at Guru's place,
3. The Ginyu Force arriving(it would be nice to see how they are gonna be portrayed),
4. Guldo vs. Krillin & Gohan.

All of this seasoned with the spicyness of TFS humour!
by dbgtFO
Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:54 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 12437
Views: 1749254

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

It would be funny, if they ever get that far, when Krillin shoots a hole in Vegeta's chest to make Vegeta stronger, that Vegeta would then be upset with Dende for almost letting him being killed by Krillin in the scene where Vegeta kicks the defenseless namek. xD And I also wonder how they're gonna ...
by dbgtFO
Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:49 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Future #17 and... pills?
Replies: 40
Views: 3859

Re: Future #17 and... pills?

But he wasn't monitoring them anymore, so he wouldn't possibly know about Goku's death, meaning the androids had the same power in all timelines. Excellent point. It's possible news reached him somehow, though. Now I must rack my brain to figure out how. :P Well if you remember, all of these magica...
by dbgtFO
Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:43 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Inconsistency with Raditz?
Replies: 50
Views: 4789

Re: Inconsistency with Raditz?

Raditz' BP is not an inconsistency in any way, as we see later on in the same saga that it's possible to damage someone even though you are much weaker, than the one defending. For example: Gohan after Piccolo's death had managed to gather all his energy into his palms and then fire it at Nappa. Veg...
by dbgtFO
Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Sensing ki from the afterlife.
Replies: 14
Views: 1519

Re: Sensing ki from the afterlife.

Goku/Kaio in the afterlife ...may need to concentrate in order to sense Super Perfect Cell's ki...who's also in the afterlife ? Since when is concentration necessary to feel a large ki? I was referring to when Cell was on Earth. I'm not sure how the mechanics of someone dying and allowing to keep t...
by dbgtFO
Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:12 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why all the hate for Cell and Buu Sagas?
Replies: 113
Views: 12073

Re: Why all the hate for Cell and Buu Sagas?

*awesomeness snipped* My God, I've been meaning to say this for years now. Yeah, I got to agree, what Cipher said really made Vegeta look like the deep character that he is(even though AT according to some hated the character and only kept him in because of fan demand). Vegeta's stupidity, as Ciphe...
by dbgtFO
Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Future #17 and... pills?
Replies: 40
Views: 3859

Re: Future #17 and... pills?

Although that still leaves the question of why exactly are they weaker than their past counterparts. I don't know how to explain, either, but I do think the future ones are weaker. It's possible they actually are. Gero wouldn't have had a reason to create #19 and get turned into #20 with Goku being...
by dbgtFO
Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta learned to hide his true strength while on Earth??
Replies: 89
Views: 7547

Re: Vegeta learned to hide his true strength while on Earth??

I get what you mean, but then how come Nappa and Vegeta expected Goku's BP to increase when they saw him powering up? The fact that they didn't assume it was what you call drawing out implies that both get detected by scouters. Also (for back on-topic purposes), Vegeta compares his drawing out to G...
by dbgtFO
Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:28 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta learned to hide his true strength while on Earth??
Replies: 89
Views: 7547

Re: Vegeta learned to hide his true strength while on Earth??

What Xyex said fit very well with my analogy about visible apples, powering up is when you go from having a suppressed power level to your max power, which the scouter detects as increasing as it gradually comes out in the open. While drawing out power is when a character assigns all of ones ki arou...
by dbgtFO
Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:59 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta learned to hide his true strength while on Earth??
Replies: 89
Views: 7547

Re: Vegeta learned to hide his true strength while on Earth??

@ FindKenshi I will try to explain it in an analogy here. First the ones who can't hide their PLs. Nappa and Vegeta have a set number of apples attached to their stomach, Nappa has 7( I believe his PL is this*1000) and Vegeta has 18. The apples are placed very close together, so it is hard to pinpoi...