Kanzenshuu

It's a fun chaotic mess, but that's just hiding that so far it's nothing more than a condensed, less entertaining version of it's anime counterpart. Essentially this. It's definitely nailing the Battle Royale aspect I feel better than the anime version, but there's been nothing so far that gets me ...

Comparing where the manga is up to from where the anime was at the time, I prefer the anime a bit more as it was overall just more enjoyable. The fights overall were more engaging, I cared more about the characters, and I like the interactions more there too. But I don't dislike the ToP in the manga...

Absolutely nothing, that's the problem. Sure but the opening statement says Goten got stepped on by Super when it didn’t. Goten’s issue was that he was ignored all throughout Super. Sole fact he was kept from growing up was ridiculous. Even if they didn't feel like doing anything with his character...

The series tells us Vegeta is this "battle genius and master tactician" but in Z, and in both manga and anime versions of Super so far, he's rarely ever portrayed as a genius combatant, contradictory to what it wants us to believe. In the Buu arc he was smart enough to fall under Babidi's...

I don't know why it's surprising for him to charge at the enemy head on with "Muh Saiyan Pride." Battle strategy isn't Vegeta's strong suit he's never depicted as a battle genius. He's charged in head on at the enemy in every single fight he's in. I think in a way that's sort of the probl...

Easily one of my favorite voice performances for this series.

As of currently right now my favorites as of 131:

1. ToP Goku
2. ToP Freeza
3. Majin Boo
4. Jiren
5. Piccolo Daimao
6. Goku Black
7. Hit
8. Beerus
9. Kale
10. Roh

DBS's version is not a hero in any modern understanding of the term. But he can be classed a hero like Achilles from Greek myth. Just a ridiculously OP warrior the story's about who's venerated by his peers. Even characters like that had motivations and things to fight for. Goku in Super doesn't re...

Asura wrote:

Zen Yabuki wrote:What did Super do to Goten?

Absolutely nothing, that's the problem.

Sure but the opening statement says Goten got stepped on by Super when it didn’t. Goten’s issue was that he was ignored all throughout Super.

Lol of course he’s a hero. Not one in the traditional sense however but Goku is a hero. But in the traditional traditional sense, he's unquestionably a hero. The ones defined by qualities like bravery and determination, rather than how much time you spent sucking up to authority, playing with your ...

Lol of course he’s a hero. Not one in the traditional sense however but Goku is a hero.

What did Super do to Goten? Regardless, nothing they’ve done so far can’t be fixed as Gohan for example has come quite far from where he used to be. Though I’m also curious on what did Super do to Gohan that was so bad as well

I think a recurring cast of antagonists is fine, if handled well. However, I think it should become a rule of thumb, that with the exception of maybe Freeza, none of the villains that were obliterated and killed should be recurring characters. Characters like Hit and Jiren are probably the perfect ...

I feel like that's something this chapter kind of lacked in specifically. For Jiren's big introductory bad guy chapter, it really could have been handled better, at the very least in terms of panelling. The manga isn't portraying Jiren as a bad guy though. He was presented as very heroic, almost ca...

Probably best describes how I feel about it. Manga ToP is just dull/boring to me so far, but I don't find it terrible.

Pretty obvious it’s Freeza. The rival should be Vegeta but it isn’t exactly written that well

Kale and Caulifla are pretty unique compared to the other Saiyans we've seen in the past. Their dynamic together was a lot of fun to watch during the ToP. I have mixed feelings with Frost. Even though I would have preferred the good guy Freeza approach during the Champa arc, I actually do kinda lik...

MKCSTEALTH wrote:I hope so. Id really like to have them bring the focus less on power, but rather technique again. Have him travel to these other universes and learn styles of fighting to combat threats instead of different hair colors

It wasn’t really ever about technique in the first few place

Found the chapter to be pretty meh. Nothing offensive by any means nor would I call it terrible, but it's just been boring. Art was wonky at times as well. I did the Time Shift, and Jiren baiting Hit but the actual fighting was pretty lackluster to me and so I wasn't all that invested in it.

I don't think he should be phased out, but I do wish they'd do something more interesting with him. Like the way his character is when it comes to his "rivalry" with Goku makes him very boring to me. Going into more depth with Vegeta being a mentor with Cabba could be a neat way to make hi...