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by ABED
Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:04 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4635
Views: 600152

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

The best multiverse stories understand that it's window dressing. A year or more between stories is hardly a waste. For many others, it is enjoyable to watch the author expand the lore and world-building of the setting. Not everything needs to be restricted to Goku's tiny little house in the middle ...
by ABED
Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:23 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4635
Views: 600152

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

We just wasted an entire year on Red Ribbon androids from the Earth. Toriyama probably forgot about the whole Multiverse lore. He's entirely focused on the Earth/Super heroes stuff now. If I were you, I would curb expectations for more lore surrounding Zeno/the Grand Priest. I mean, the last time t...
by ABED
Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:54 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

Here's the thing: I don't believe we should apply the same rules of reality to fiction. A character acting out of the way they acted before without the story explaining why they're acting as such, I consider to be bad. The story doesn't need to do exposition to explain every inconsistent action. Go...
by ABED
Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:42 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

Here's the thing: I don't believe we should apply the same rules of reality to fiction. A character acting out of the way they acted before without the story explaining why they're acting as such, I consider to be bad. The story doesn't need to do exposition to explain every inconsistent action. Go...
by ABED
Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:18 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

Goku did plea with his friends to not interfere against Piccolo but it didn't strike me as an emotional plea. He may not have been in control of the fight but he was sure he could win. The plea to let Vegeta go feels like him asking something for himself for the first time and on an emotional basis....
by ABED
Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:46 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

It's okay to enjoy things that are poorly planned out. But I'll have to disagree with you when you try to argue it's not poorly planned out at all. We can't discuss this any further when that has never been my argument and you claim it as such. I'm baffled that you think I even implied it. It's als...
by ABED
Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:26 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

Vague warnings from a guy who just shown him to be stronger than Freeza, and telling him that there are beings even stronger than himself that would kill him in a few years. Yes. Still vague. They don't know how strong the cyborgs are or even if any of this is true. Also, Dragon Ball is a story wri...
by ABED
Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:37 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

Putting my two cents here again: Vegeta's "sense of honor and pride, deciding to fight enemies he knows he can win" makes no sense. Vegeta as a character was extremely pragmatic during the Saiyan and Namek arcs, be it against enemies he knew he could beat or not. Biggest example I can fin...
by ABED
Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:56 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4635
Views: 600152

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

The level of stakes are so absurdly high in DB and now Super that I find it hard to believe anyone is actually bothered by Goku and others having a hand in it.
by ABED
Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:53 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

A problem with Toriyama's writing is that, he just changes characters' personalities in some ways to fit in a specific plot, which fucks over Goku, but he's far from being the only one, Vegeta in Cell saga suddenly becomes a dumbass who fights with honor when in Namek he actually fought dirty, Goha...
by ABED
Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:05 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

I don’t hate GT. I like it more than most but just think the fights are subpar

In any even fair enough. Have a good one
by ABED
Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:58 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

It does make sense bc Goku is very concrete bound. He won’t stop it before it starts but if it’s someone right in front of him he will Helping a stranger isn’t what superheroes do. They also go looking for evil to stop it. He’s consistent in that he is very concrete bound and unable to deal with the...
by ABED
Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:47 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

Goku told his friends to not interfere in the tournament bc if they did he’d get DQed. It’s not a superhero story. It’s a martial arts story. Saving the world is often just the plot but it’s not the story Once I understood that then so much came into focus Goku letting Vegeta go makes more sense and...
by ABED
Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

The stakes are only higher bc the level of power but it’s the same characters. While that was what happened in the Piccolo arc he is capable of destroying the world If you don’t like the protagonists, what do you enjoy about DB? I enjoy Dragon Ball up to Early Namek. After the Ginyu Force shows up,...
by ABED
Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:23 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

The stakes are only higher bc the level of power but it’s the same characters.

While that was what happened in the Piccolo arc he is capable of destroying the world

If you don’t like the protagonists, what do you enjoy about DB?
by ABED
Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:08 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: One Piece Remake, fans are so lucky...
Replies: 226
Views: 11215

Re: One Piece Remake, fans are so lucky...

On the other hand I really enjoyed the live action show, and that already provides a condensed version of the story. Having this anime remake come out at the same time might be overkill. The 2 Netflix shows could end up competing with each other for ratings, as many will only watch one or the other...
by ABED
Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:10 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

Vanilla DB?

While he doesn’t want Kami to die, that is a side issue. He didn’t just spare Piccolo, he got his body torn up and still told his friends to not fight so he could win the tournament. The hat was his primary goal.

Goku is inconsistent bc people are inconsistent.
by ABED
Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:07 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

Wanted to add a few more things here: Even if Piccolo was magnitudes stronger than Roshi, and could destroy the planet, I ask you this: What does he have to benefit from it? As far as I was aware, Piccolo wanted to turn the Earth into Demon Land, not destroy it. And if he did destroy it, could he b...
by ABED
Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:37 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

I’d argue the music choice doesn’t really work with the scene. It’s too sappy and sentimental. In fact, it ironically works better with FUNimation’s rewrite, and it wasn’t even written with that music in mind. And I'd argue that it is in fact a sentimental moment for Goku. He's having to ask this f...
by ABED
Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:09 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene
Replies: 79
Views: 4794

Re: Goku letting Vegeta go is a very touching scene

I want to add, Goku also only really kills in self defense or in the heat of battle. Goku would have probably been a-okay with killing Freeza in combat but leaving him to suffer and die was probably too cold blooded for him. To expand on this, Goku is more lenient when he's calm and in control of t...