Kanzenshuu

Since this has a bit of relation to the thread, I will try to use just the base Saiyan. Goku (vs. Freeza) - 3M Goku (vs. Cell) - 30M Gohan (vs Cell) - 35M Goku (vs Boo) - 45M Goku (vs Beerus) - 50M Freeza - 120M So, in your scale, if Goku was a 6, Gohan was a 7. There's no way the Base Saiyans were...

There's nothing dramatic lol, if a writer mentions easy solution then keeps on drawing his pic or mentioning about his contribute then no one is gonna root for good guys ignoring easy victory over a technique which never worked. No one is gonna bother watching unless they like bad narratives or are...

Because of the overconfidence, according to his own admission he was trying to act cool and not because boo got weaker. There's no reason for him to again repeat that especially when he's forced to take outside help like relying on Goku to collect or forced to rely on Dragon Balls again, there's no...

You are ignoring how the tropes of the series have been played till now, not once did character ignore easy victory over risky solution plus, Kaio told Goku that Genki Dama should be used as a last resort and it makes no sense for exhausted Goku and Vegeta to use that despite knowing how less the o...

goku ssj3 can not possibly be stronger than ssj3 gotenks. if we go by the ssj multiplier that ssj 3 goku is 400x base. even if fusion equals the multiplier of normal ssj thats still would make ssj3 gotenks stomp ssj3 goku. Logically, it should be like you’re saying. But it doesn’t seem the story we...

Goku never mentioned anything about Gotenks being above him to Boo yet he told Piccolo he did so that piccolo would be determined to train Gotenks. According to his own admission it was a gamble. It doesn't matter whether or not Goku mentioned it to Buu. The fact that he expected Gotenks to be powe...

Darkprince410 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:58 pm Spoiler: Except Goku flat out lied to Piccolo about telling Boo about someone stronger facing him when he said no such thing and then even said he was taking a big gamble. He expected them to get powerful in 2 days not one. Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5...

That has got nothing to do with Goku's ssj3 being weaker when according to his own admission he was holding back near Fat Boo. Scaling everything on vague interpretation like expectation of sensing ki isn't good argument. You are making that up, it's not that he's terrible ki detector but he wasn't...

Pre ROSAT Gotenks has never been shown to be anywhere near Goku. In fact, the only time Gotenks was stated to be above Goku is when he went Ssj3. That's all. Goku comments on being surprised that he can't sense Gotenks' ki when he suddenly realized he couldn't sense Evil Buu's ki when Buu entered t...

You proved me why it was my mistake for getting into arguments with you who's only reliant on twisting anything which goes against his arguments and add new theories and by using "only logical explanation" just grasping at straws and to fit his desperate points even assume that there are ...

There is a conversation that takes place between Kibitoshin and Elder Kaioshin , when Super Boo is turning into Kid Boo. Unless you forgot about that conversation and are unable to get back to it, it says that Boo lost power from the absorption. This means that all previous forms of Boo were missin...

Gohan's genki wasn't enough, not his full ki. Remember, Genki Dama only draws off genki, not full ki, so what Gohan donated is only a portion of his total strength. I find particularly odd that Vegeta is willing to exhaust all the Earthlings to create that super-powerful ball, but for some reason G...

It's not so long in manga, it's one continuous reverse transformation. If he had stayed in buff form then your argument would have made sense but he was continuously going back, no one ever refuted that his ki came down or anything. Again, that was to show what South Kaioshin turned him into and wh...

When other characters were torn out of super boo , he lost his powers instantly. Then again, explain why Buu takes so long to revert from Evil Buu to Pure Buu. If those influences weren't within Buu anymore, then he should have transformed into Pure Buu instantly, but it took a considerable length ...

That's bad argument. He clearly says "Gohan To Gotenks", in Japanese its clear "And". Now gotenks can win without ssj3? A non-exhaustive "and" means that what is said isn't specifically just them, and yes, Gotenks as a Super Saiyan, given even the more conservative pow...

Your logic is already debunked the moment Goku uses "And" which means both are required but there's absolutely no need to call Gotenks if Pure Boo is weaker than Evil Boo. There's no way you can rationalize it as Goku saying either of Gohan and Gotenks can beat Boo when he was wanting bot...

Isn't that way too convenient for your narrative? Pure Boo will only go to Earth even though there's no reason for him to go to a planet he already destroyed. Plus, he only destroyed it because that's where he was when he reverted to his original self. That's a massive stretch, Genki-Dama failing m...

There are many implications about Genki Dama being the only thing that could have worked. Why is everyone acting like "oh no this is the end for us now" when Genki Dama plan is almost failing? You mean everyone will become so dumb that they would forget that Gohan can take care of him? Th...

They would defuse from too much power Fusions don't defuse from having too much power but by monkeying around with their power & stamina. DBS Gogeta has remained fused the longest out of any instance of Gogeta in the series despite being the strongest that he's ever been at. Gogeta from GT used...

Goku explicitly stated that nothing he does works on him and he needs to gather Ki for One Minute which means he's weaker unless you think Piccolo was stronger than Raditz. You can't increase your power by gathering ki for a minute, the series has already shown it. Obviously Goku was trying to crea...