Kanzenshuu

No, it's not. The Shin Ki-Ko-Ho is a haxxed uber-powerful Ki-Ko-Ho, which has nothing to do with his regular battle power. That's just your opinion. Tenshinhan holding back Cell doesn't mean that he is stronger than Freeza. ...Yes, that's what I said. I don't think Tenshinhan's stronger than Freeza...

No, it's not. The Shin Ki-Ko-Ho is a haxxed uber-powerful Ki-Ko-Ho, which has nothing to do with his regular battle power.

That's just your opinion.

Tenshinhan holding back Cell doesn't mean that he is stronger than Freeza.

Personally, i don't find anything ridiculous about power boosts. Strength Checker wrote: Chapter: 28, P11.4-5 Context: after Goku runs 100 meters with new shoes Kame-sennin: “Eigh…8.5 seconds…” Goku: “Is that fast!?” Kuririn: "What kind of training did you do…?” Strength Checker wrote: Chapter:...

There is nothing in the manga to suggest that the gravity room used by Vegeta for the training with the androids is in a spaceship. And there isn't anything who says it wasn't,anyway inside it is the same. But,that wasn't my point.I was saying that the two gravity rooms were different. Since Vegeta...

I never said the room 7 years later isn't different on the inside. You just said it was the same room, when i was talking about the pillar inside. Daizenshuu has mistakes,everyone who looks at the same page sees no difference between Goku and Vegeta gravity room for the android saga.Anyway show me ...

The Daizenshuu doesn't agree with you, which pretty much is another way to say you're wrong. Daizenshuu has mistakes,the gravity rooms are different.It is pointless to argue. :lol: Sorry, but the Daizenshuu is right and you're wrong. Vegeta didn't train in a spaceship for the Artificial Humans. :lo...

Senzu_Bean wrote:The Daizenshuu doesn't agree with you, which pretty much is another way to say you're wrong.

Daizenshuu has mistakes,the gravity rooms are different.It is pointless to argue.
You are just trolling!

And? Vegeta asked for a gravity room, not a spaceship with a gravitational device. They are one and the same. You only deserve lol!It is obvious that the first gravity room is like the one used by Goku and by the way the anime team must be pretty stupid too. In the second room you adjust the gravit...

The gravity rooms are DIFFFERENT PERIOD! Are you just trolling now? Goku's gravity training was inside the ship. Vegeta's gravity training was a room, inside Bulma's house, seen for the first time before the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai. Are you blind?There is a pillar on the middle in the gravity room v...

Senzu_Bean wrote:

Titan wrote:

Senzu_Bean wrote:I already did and I stand correct.

No you wrong!did you forget Goku's gravity room had a pillar on the middle.

What are you talking about? Vegeta always did his gravity training on the gravity room, seen before the 25th TB. Period!

The gravity rooms are DIFFFERENT PERIOD!

Senzu_Bean wrote:I already did and I stand correct.

No you are wrong!Did you forget Goku's gravity room had a pillar on the middle?

Vegeta didn't train in a spaceship but in the gravity room, which doesn't seem big and specially tall enough to use bukujutsu in. Actually, it was the same room with 300 g. Uh? Vegeta for the Artificial Humans trained in the same room he is seen with Trunks 7 years later. The whole spaceship deal i...

Vegeta didn't train in a spaceship but in the gravity room, which doesn't seem big and specially tall enough to use bukujutsu in. Actually, it was the same room with 300 g.A few inches would be enough,however it is easy to see that they had room to fly over there just by looking at Goku training or...

What...? I've just been replying to points that you've been making. Would you prefer me to just ignore you now? That's not the issue,we already explained our different opinions.You find hard to believe some of my points and vice-versa.I'm not seeing nothing productive at this point. So...? Am I not...

Senzu_Bean wrote:Tenshinhan is no longer Goku's rival by that time. He stopped being one when Goku defeated Freeza.

The feeling is still there.

Please don't twist what I say. I didn't say I found it hard to imagine them using bukujutsu in high gravity; I said I don't find it hard to imagine they didn't, since we literally never see them do so in the manga, as far as I can see. Now go ahead and accuse me of "adjusting my stance" l...

A fusion between Goku and Tenshinhan would be an interesting what if scenario. When Goku was looking for a partner to fuse with, he lamented, "Tenshinhans out cold" rather then "Tenshinhan is not strong enough anyway". This fusion would get the rivals boost that Veggetto gets,but...

That fuzzy thing he and Chaozu were wearing in a title page? I assumed it was just because they were training on a mountain peak or some other cliche. Fuzzy thing?That's the only time we see him using something like that.Looking at his arms,they seem to be weighted.You always assume what you want t...

Weighted clothes are Kami's thing. The weights from the Buu saga are magically conjured by Kaios; how would the humans get them on Earth? I mean, Kaio was asleep for most of the saga and didn't even know Earth was in danger. I guess they could have made do by strapping cars to their backs, but it's...

First of all, I'm not trying to force my point of view on anyone. Ok,but when you say that the other members are ignoring everything you are disrespecting them. I respect your opinion so i only demand the same kind of treatment. But Goku's head-start on them this time was enormous, even without Sup...