Because the base Vegetto stuff was ingrained into the footage like Gregory. To not have included at least some of it in there before he transforms into Super Saiyan would've caused continuity errors with the fact that he was first on the ground when he fused, then suddenly in the air when he transformed. They would've had to animate new shots to make it like the manga, which I don't think Toei was willing to do.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:The Vegetto stuff was still way too much of a drag for me to be honest, why they kept Base Vegetto is beyond me, it is pointless as a viewer watching such a one sided fight and in fact it makes things even worse because it makes Vegetto's superiority feel even more and as viewer I am less interested in the rest of the arc now since Vegetto should killed him, his mission was to save the others so he wasn't gonna make the kill okay whatever but then Toriyama made the fight short and sweet in the Manga because of that, the anime was just too lumbering, even in TFC.Metalwario64 wrote:I finally bought the rest of Kai on DVD, and while The Final Chapters definitely has issues (why was the Hell scene kept?), I really loved the way it handled the Vegetto stuff. It was taken down to two episodes, and the base Vegetto was intact, but reduced to half of an episode. All of the Dende and Mr. Satan cutaways were removed, as well as the Enma scenes, and only a handful of Kaioshin scenes were included. It makes for two really action packed episodes.
Juxtapose that to the "inside Majin Buu" scene, which was heavily cut down from when they arrived inside of him, to defusing, to getting to his brain. It was the only part of Chris Stuckmann's review I actually agree with when he, essentially, said it was stupid. Plus, no continuity errors from the scenes that they cut out. Same with the Dende & Mr. Satan shots. I was pleasantly surprised when I found out those were filler-only, as well as Buu getting indigestion from Goku & Vegeta traveling through his body.
The Hell scenes on the other hand should have been cut, though, since not only do they slow the pace of the arc down, as well as being so short that they could be cut without any problems whatsoever because they're so disconnected as a result of being filler that wasn't in the manga, they cause continuity errors not only with Super & Resurrection F, but also in the series itself because they completely cut out the stupid Hell filler from Z in the first arc. It causes discontinuities not only for showing Hell, which is completely different in Super, but also the fact that they kept the line about Goku falling off of Snake Way...and the dubbing team didn't think to redo the line to Goku flying over Snake Way or something to correct this discontinuity.
Never say never. The problem is Toei just not putting in as much effort. Considering that the show apparently didn't perform to Toei, or Fuji TV's expectations in the merch sales department, I'd say it's a miracle we even got TFC in the first place after they saw how well the series has done overseas. I'm glad we got it even as-is.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:The same with the Majin Vegeta vs Goku fight, with Goku having SS3 that fight just seems super pointless in hindsight and Toriyama wisely chose to not concentrate on it much because it would just be a waste time there were far more interesting things going on with Gohan, Shin, Babidi and Dabura than watching Goku being a twat and holding back in his super mega fight with Vegeta. Watching Buu Kai every time they cut back to the Majin Vegeta I honestly was rolling my eyes thinking to myself is this really not done yet? Please get back to the other stuff. It was just a plot point to get Buu revived that was it.
Kai was such a missed opportunity to get a proper manga version of Z re-animated from scratch and now we aren't ever gonna get that chance again.
And here's the thing about the Goku VS Majin Vegeta fight. Do you really think Toriyama even paid that much attention to his own story by the Buu Saga? Hell, he wasn't opposed to retcons & asspulls before that saga, so it shouldn't surprise you that the Buu Saga's where most of it hit the fan. Before the debut of SS3, Goku said he was at full power at SS2. Hell, Toriyama honestly thought that he'd be creating SS2 instead of 3 at the time because he forgot he introduced 2 already. It's probably why he's since simplified later Super Saiyan transformations just to alternate colors, but with the same base hairstyles; Super Saiyan God just applying a red dye job, different irises & a slimmer physique & Super Saiyan Blue having regular Super Saiyan hair, only died blue, since the only differences for Goku, Vegeta, & Future Trunks between SS1 & 2 were so negligible, you wouldn't even notice if you weren't looking for it, & SS3 is just longer hair with no eyebrows, but a Neanderthal browline for some reason. He actively admits to making shit up as he went along, especially in that last arc, since he was allowed to go all out after so much of the Z we all know.
I bring this up because he didn't actively make fights shorter because stuff would look different in hindsight. Maybe that Buu fight with Vegetto, but not Goku VS Majin Vegeta. I have a feeling it was more so to bring Vegeta's arc full circle, since he was the last main character with one unresolved by that point, especially with Vegeta's sacrifice. After that, he really cut loose because that's where the arc went full balls-to-the-wall nuts. He introduced SS3, which was a big ass asspull, he introduced 2 types of fusion, he introduced Majin Buu's absorptions & transformations, & other things. A lot of things Toriyama did as well were against what fans wanted as well & I have a feeling that the Goku VS Majin Vegeta fight was part of that, hence why Toei animated it originally. I'm not saying your interpretation of it isn't something illogical, I'm just saying that I don't think you have all the facts behind them.