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by Gonstead » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:12 pm
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Yet it's full of clips from various moments in the series.
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by DBZ_Lee » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:14 pm
So this week's episode of Kai #126 (International #133) covered all but the last 5 minutes of "Z" #245, which leaves just over 46 episodes left to cover into 34 episodes of Kai. So, just over 4 hours worth of content will be cut - approx 245 minutes, just please, cut that awful filler inside of Super Buu and Kid Buu going to Other World.
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by gameleon » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:20 pm
Question. Does the international version also censor the stuff the Japanese version did? (Like the guys head exploding by Babidi's magic)
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by Valerius Dover » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:33 pm
^Not gonna act like I've seen it or anything, but it's possible there have also been additional edits for the broadcasts, like the black-and-white thing they had in South Korea's TV version of Spopovich beating Videl. So, edits we see on this French Broadcast may not necessarily apply to the uncut masters.
Incidentally, the full episode that was posted above.....why is it only 22 minutes long? That's like 4Kids length. Even if you factor in PAL Speedup, it's still a few minutes shorter than anime-length.
I didn't watch, I only spot checked a few things. Also, the OP is placed after the 5 minute recap. Is this is a regular thing in The Final Chapters? (Like the first Kai?)
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by sangofe » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:51 am
Valerius Dover wrote:^Not gonna act like I've seen it or anything, but it's possible there have also been additional edits for the broadcasts, like the black-and-white thing they had in South Korea's TV version of Spopovich beating Videl. So, edits we see on this French Broadcast may not necessarily apply to the uncut masters.
Incidentally, the full episode that was posted above.....why is it only 22 minutes long? That's like 4Kids length. Even if you factor in PAL Speedup, it's still a few minutes shorter than anime-length.
I didn't watch, I only spot checked a few things. Also, the OP is placed after the 5 minute recap. Is this is a regular thing in The Final Chapters? (Like the first Kai?)
You mean episode 100? For some reason that didn't have a part of the review part. And the french broadcast really is uncut. It had tons of blood in Videl's fight, and it wasn't in black and white.
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by Valerius Dover » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:49 am
^Ok, uncut. Makes sense given that it isn't on a mainstream channel. I meant The Final Chapters Episode 1 (or 99 overall). Why it's only 22 minutes as opposed to 24.
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by sangofe » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:24 pm
Interesting fact: the french dub of the latest episode has got red blood, whereas the blood was colored in the Japanese version.
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by Valerius Dover » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:07 pm
^That confirms my suspicion that the censorship only applies to the JP version. How was Babidi's middle finger handled?
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by dbboxkaifan » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:13 pm
It seems backwards as to what Toei's doing because they used to broadcast anime completely uncut in Japan but in the west they would censor (and still do), I can't believe that their kids are too sensitive for it now.
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by JulieYBM » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:33 pm
dbboxkaifan wrote:It seems backwards as to what Toei's doing because they used to broadcast anime completely uncut in Japan but in the west they would censor (and still do), I can't believe that their kids are too sensitive for it now.
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Dragon Ball Kai, not Toei Animation. The series is a joint venture between the two, based on
Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters as was created entirely by Toei Animation. Public Relations' Kumagai Tomoko of Fuji TV probably did not want this level of violence in a series airing at 9AM on Sunday mornings, especially for the a series that isn't exactly a high priority, anyway.
Dragon Ball Kai is even more disposable than
One Piece, a series which is hardly produced with the highest level of production quality for a long-running franchise.
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by alakazam^ » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:51 am
The scene is pretty much the same, the blood is only lit up when Boo's fist connects. Wouldn't consider that an edit or censorship...
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by dbboxkaifan » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:27 pm
alakazam^ wrote:The scene is pretty much the same, the blood is only lit up when Boo's fist connects. Wouldn't consider that an edit or censorship...
The blow at the beginning is definitely red rather than pink, so even though they censored it afterwards (just as the Japanese ver.) it's still somewhat uncut-ish.
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by sintzu » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:49 pm
Did this happen in the international version :
Goku appears.
Then Buu is damaged and blown off though Goku hasn't done anything yet.
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by ShinGaijin » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:30 pm
Yes, unfortunately.
I didn't noticed that, to be honest.
I'm tired of their amateurism, really.
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by dbboxkaifan » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:41 pm
Hm, so both are censored to a certain extent better to wait until Final Chapters' receives a home release and then hopefully it'll be uncensored (Kai has its own definition of uncut but fingers crossed it's mostly uncut).
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by ChibiGoku » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:58 pm
dbboxkaifan wrote:Hm, so both are censored to a certain extent better to wait until Final Chapters' receives a home release and then hopefully it'll be uncensored (Kai has its own definition of uncut but fingers crossed it's mostly uncut).
Actually, I think it was just trimmed down for time.
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by TheAldella » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:10 am
I don't know if anyone pointed it out, but in the Battle of Gods Extras, we get insight on the recording sessions of the English VAs, and in said sessions, Chris Sabat talks to Kyle Hebert about how this approach to Adult Gohan is "different from Kai" and how they "toned him down for Kai".
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