Goku in the original manga put Gohan on a pedestal.The gr wrote:Is understandable on how goku sees gohan in the manga,is just that he is not into fighting like everyone and screw up way too much,is much better instead of putting him in a pedestal like the anime.pacz360 wrote:Toei may fuck up a lot of things but at least they don't have goku treat gohan as if he's some disappointment in the anime or how he never saw gohan birth while in the anime he only mentions never seeing goten birth given he was dead.
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Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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except goku was fine with gohan being a scholar and he told him that in the cell games manga, saying if he defeated cell he could become a scholar.
second you act like goku isn't a massive screwup as well, he let his guard down against freeza which resulted in the whole earth blowing up, he was the reason why the tournament happened in the first place going against beerus orders.
second you act like goku isn't a massive screwup as well, he let his guard down against freeza which resulted in the whole earth blowing up, he was the reason why the tournament happened in the first place going against beerus orders.
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What i'm trying to say,gohan is not some genius when it come to battle and loss his amazing power twice.BlueVegerot wrote:except goku was fine with gohan being a scholar and he told him that in the cell games manga, saying if he defeated cell he could become a scholar.
second you act like goku isn't a massive screwup as well, he let his guard down against freeza which resulted in the whole earth blowing up, he was the reason why the tournament happened in the first place going against beerus orders.
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Wow. That's right. lol, I totally forgot.LightBing wrote:Vegeta mentioned it back in the U6 tournament arc. He said Gohan was the one with the most potential.Miracles wrote:Fitting continuity. The way Vegeta clowned Gohan back in Buu saga.jplaya2023 wrote:vegeta didn't mention gohan's potential in this like he did for the anime. shocking
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How many " battle geniuses" does u7 even have? Also gohan can get his power back in a short time.The gr wrote:What i'm trying to say,gohan is not some genius when it come to battle and loss his amazing power twice.BlueVegerot wrote:except goku was fine with gohan being a scholar and he told him that in the cell games manga, saying if he defeated cell he could become a scholar.
second you act like goku isn't a massive screwup as well, he let his guard down against freeza which resulted in the whole earth blowing up, he was the reason why the tournament happened in the first place going against beerus orders.
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Until he realized that his son does not like fighting or training. I don't see the problem.HeroR wrote:Goku in the original manga put Gohan on a pedestal.The gr wrote:Is understandable on how goku sees gohan in the manga,is just that he is not into fighting like everyone and screw up way too much,is much better instead of putting him in a pedestal like the anime.pacz360 wrote:Toei may fuck up a lot of things but at least they don't have goku treat gohan as if he's some disappointment in the anime or how he never saw gohan birth while in the anime he only mentions never seeing goten birth given he was dead.
Even in the Boo arc he was surprised at how weak Gohan looked against Dabura. Now that Goku's alive, he doesn't need to rely on Gohan training anymore, since he wants to be a scholar. You guys act like Goku dislikes his son, when all he's been saying is "Nah Gohan isn't a fighter anymore."
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Yes he did. Vegeta says this line originally in the manga of the U6 arc.jplaya2023 wrote:vegeta didn't mention gohan's potential in this like he did for the anime. shocking
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I mean most of the warriors that protect the earth practice martial arts except Trunks and Goten and probably BooBlueVegerot wrote:How many " battle geniuses" does u7 even have? Also gohan can get his power back in a short time.The gr wrote:What i'm trying to say,gohan is not some genius when it come to battle and loss his amazing power twice.BlueVegerot wrote:except goku was fine with gohan being a scholar and he told him that in the cell games manga, saying if he defeated cell he could become a scholar.
second you act like goku isn't a massive screwup as well, he let his guard down against freeza which resulted in the whole earth blowing up, he was the reason why the tournament happened in the first place going against beerus orders.
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He still did like telling Gohan in the Buu Saga that he can beat anyone if he could get piss and him becoming Ulimate.OLKv3 wrote:Until he realized that his son does not like fighting or training. I don't see the problem.HeroR wrote:Goku in the original manga put Gohan on a pedestal.The gr wrote: Is understandable on how goku sees gohan in the manga,is just that he is not into fighting like everyone and screw up way too much,is much better instead of putting him in a pedestal like the anime.
Even in the Boo arc he was surprised at how weak Gohan looked against Dabura. Now that Goku's alive, he doesn't need to rely on Gohan training anymore, since he wants to be a scholar. You guys act like Goku dislikes his son, when all he's been saying is "Nah Gohan isn't a fighter anymore."
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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That's when he needed him to fight.HeroR wrote:He still did like telling Gohan in the Buu Saga that he can beat anyone if he could get piss and him becoming Ulimate.OLKv3 wrote:Until he realized that his son does not like fighting or training. I don't see the problem.HeroR wrote:
Goku in the original manga put Gohan on a pedestal.
Even in the Boo arc he was surprised at how weak Gohan looked against Dabura. Now that Goku's alive, he doesn't need to rely on Gohan training anymore, since he wants to be a scholar. You guys act like Goku dislikes his son, when all he's been saying is "Nah Gohan isn't a fighter anymore."
Now he's not trying to force his son to fight, you keep ignoring that.
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How I’m ignoring that when I literally made no comment about Goku making Gohan fight. I only said that Goku in the original manga put Gohan on a pedestal.OLKv3 wrote:That's when he needed him to fight.HeroR wrote:He still did like telling Gohan in the Buu Saga that he can beat anyone if he could get piss and him becoming Ulimate.OLKv3 wrote: Until he realized that his son does not like fighting or training. I don't see the problem.
Even in the Boo arc he was surprised at how weak Gohan looked against Dabura. Now that Goku's alive, he doesn't need to rely on Gohan training anymore, since he wants to be a scholar. You guys act like Goku dislikes his son, when all he's been saying is "Nah Gohan isn't a fighter anymore."
Now he's not trying to force his son to fight, you keep ignoring that.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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Jiren is really interesting in the manga,I'm glad he's not another stoic rival and the introduction of the pride trooper was great also velmod character is really good.
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Did Jiren just push that One Punch man crab guy through the earth?
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That's what I thought at first too, but it looks like he just pushed him underground and back out in the sea nearby. On first glance, I thought Jiren pushed him all the way through the planet and out the other side like in a cartoon!Miracles wrote:Did Jiren just push that One Punch man crab guy through the earth?
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lolRebel Instinct wrote:That's what I thought at first too, but it looks like he just pushed him underground and back out in the sea nearby. On first glance, I thought Jiren pushed him all the way through the planet and out the other side like in a cartoon!Miracles wrote:Did Jiren just push that One Punch man crab guy through the earth?
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Too be fair, didn't he fly off to space after namek and chose not to come back for like a year and a half? Especially when he denied the dragon who can bring him instantly?mfwlegend3 wrote:I can accept him never kissing Chichi, or being there for the exact moment of Gohan being born, but yeah, the fact that he never once saw Chichi's stomach in the full 9 months that she was pregnant really is questionable.FortuneSSJ wrote:He never kissed his wife on the mouth and despite being alive, he never saw her pregnant and he wasn't there when Gohan was born either...WTF is happening here?!
The thing is the joke is believable because Goku's time on Earth isn't around civilization. Yes, even after ball. Goku lives in the hills in isolation. I think people just assumed he became a real Earth citizen because it was left vague like a lot of stuff in dragon ball. But In Z, Goku is barely on Earth.
Thats the thing about Toriyama's retcons, You can see it happening because he doesn't go into great detail in the first place, but fan theorists do and when they get a real answer that is not as fun as their theory, well they get upset.
Samurai jack season 5 had this same issue.
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Totamo wrote:Too be fair, didn't he fly off to space after namek and chose not to come back for like a year and a half? Especially when he denied the dragon who can bring him instantly?mfwlegend3 wrote:I can accept him never kissing Chichi, or being there for the exact moment of Gohan being born, but yeah, the fact that he never once saw Chichi's stomach in the full 9 months that she was pregnant really is questionable.FortuneSSJ wrote:He never kissed his wife on the mouth and despite being alive, he never saw her pregnant and he wasn't there when Gohan was born either...WTF is happening here?!
The thing is the joke is believable because Goku's time on Earth isn't around civilization. Yes, even after ball. Goku lives in the hills in isolation. I think people just assumed he became a real Earth citizen because it was left vague like a lot of stuff in dragon ball. But In Z, Goku is barely on Earth.
Thats the thing about Toriyama's retcons, You can see it happening because he doesn't go into great detail in the first place, but fan theorists do and when they get a real answer that is not as fun as their theory, well they get upset.
Samurai jack season 5 had this same issue.
Goku was gone from Earth for a year.
And Goku is a bad father meme ignores that Goku spent five years with Gohan without any issues and when Namek happened, it was Gohan who left first. The only time Goku ‘abandoned’ his family were in the seven years when he’s dead and that’s because he thought he brought danger to everyone.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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