"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[The gr]

I'm excited to see Toppo in action,he is so far the only likable character that isn't from u7/6.

[TekTheNinja]

Most Gohan fans(not all but stil) are really greedy,the kind you give an apple to and then they want all the apples you have,same here its not enough that Gohan does something,they will not be satisfied unless he takes it all.

This kind of greediness is what blinds them as well,in dbz outside of defeating Cell Gohan did not do much that sets him aside from the other supporting characters,in fact if we take away his Cell feat then you arrive at the conclusion that:
Gohan has been a stronger Krillin as far as the Freeza and Buu saga is concerned in terms of role and 5/6 of the Cell saga as well.

Gohan's fans cannot let go out of his best accomplishement and are still stuck on it,they cannot move on which is why they are not satisfied with what Gohan has gotten so far in this arc,when in reality 9/10 times he was mostly supporting/secondary role(that includes dbz as well).

I'm not even necessarily pining for Gohan to take it all, but what you're saying is just incorrect. Gohan was practically the main character of Z. It followed his journey of taking over where his father left off, up until Toriyama changed his damn mind and he got absorbed. (Which I think kinda killed the overall narrative honestly)

[ToshioWrites]

Fans : I hope my fave character gets a good showing and maybe fingers crossed the final glory

Goku fanboys : Greedy mofos . This is the Goku show . Know your place

I love this fandom

[Dbzfan94]

I really hate this 'war' in this fandom.

Goku fans v Vegeta fans v Gohan fans v Piccolo fans.

For fucks sake, am I the only one who's a fan of all of them?

[sintzu]

I really hate this 'war' in this fandom.

Goku fans v Vegeta fans v Gohan fans v Piccolo fans.

For fucks sake, am I the only one who's a fan of all of them?

I like all of them as well (yeah Vegeta is my favorite but we all have favorites).

Fans : I hope my fave character gets a good showing and maybe fingers crossed the final glory

Goku fanboys : Greedy mofos . This is the Goku show . Know your place.

I'll take this thank you very much.

[Dbzfan94]

I really hate this 'war' in this fandom.

Goku fans v Vegeta fans v Gohan fans v Piccolo fans.

For fucks sake, am I the only one who's a fan of all of them?

I like all of them as well (yeah Vegeta is my favorite but we all have favorites).

Having favorites is fine but some of the fans even on here take it like a slap in the face that they prefer another character over their fave and/or just want them to get a good showing.

[Torturephile]

I can't quite grasp this mentality in which people can only choose one thing to like and no more. It isn't a competition. Unfortunately, this occurs everywhere, from music artists/bands to writers to film to games to many other things. I see people arguing about which of two or more products of something is better yet I like them all.

My signature says it all.

[dbzfan7]

I really hate this 'war' in this fandom.

Goku fans v Vegeta fans v Gohan fans v Piccolo fans.

For fucks sake, am I the only one who's a fan of all of them?

Welcome to fandom. You would like or want something, then you're greedy. Take what you get. And then there's the crowd who would completely throw away character arcs because they don't like them. Damn the story and dropping the ball on a character arc, because I don't like them so they should go away to appease me. Fuck anyone else who may want to see them, only I matter. What there's people who want to see this? Nah can't be happy for them, it's all about me baby.

I do not like Ribrianne at all, but if there's a character arc going for her, then who am I to say it should just vanish like Lunch did. As long as there is a story being told, it should have a beginning, middle, and end. It shouldn't just randomly be dropped and have gears shifted away from said story to backpedal.

[TekTheNinja]

Rather than a specific fan of one character, I'm a fan of good character writing, which Super will never have if Goku keeps doing everything.

[Grimlock]

Rather than a specific fan of one character, I'm a fan of good character writing, which Super will never have if Goku keeps doing everything.

I have my own favorite characters, but this man gets it completely.

[Michsi]

I really hate this 'war' in this fandom.

Goku fans v Vegeta fans v Gohan fans v Piccolo fans.

For fucks sake, am I the only one who's a fan of all of them?

I like all of them as well (yeah Vegeta is my favorite but we all have favorites).

Having favorites is fine but some of the fans even on here take it like a slap in the face that they prefer another character over their fave and/or just want them to get a good showing.

If you view screen-time like a limited resource and you keep seeing a character you don't care about constantly getting more than your favorite, you will automatically be bitter about it. Some take out that frustration on the fans of the non-favorite. It's a similar us vs. them mentality you see in sport team rivalries.

[TekTheNinja]

I like all of them as well (yeah Vegeta is my favorite but we all have favorites).

Having favorites is fine but some of the fans even on here take it like a slap in the face that they prefer another character over their fave and/or just want them to get a good showing.

If you view screen-time like a limited resource and you keep seeing a character you don't care about constantly getting more than your favorite, you will automatically be bitter about it. Some take out that frustration on the fans of the non-favorite. It's a similar us vs. them mentality you see in sport team rivalries.

That's sort of how I feel about Kale and Caulifla honestly. They get all this time dedicated to them, while the much more interesting characters from universe 6 get close to nothing. The very interesting in theory Namekians get only have an episode, not counting their basically pointless background fighting in the prior episodes. Cabba, who has had more buildup, only gets the big feat of doing what Caulifla already did earlier, becoming super saiyan 2.

Then there's Frieza who quite literally takes away from Yamcha and Buu being team candidates and it doesn't help that I'm still vehemently against Frieza returning at all, because there's very little left to do with him and him being here is making me retroactively like him less despite him previously being one of my favorite anime villains but now I'm just sick of his face.

[Dbzfan94]

Having favorites is fine but some of the fans even on here take it like a slap in the face that they prefer another character over their fave and/or just want them to get a good showing.

If you view screen-time like a limited resource and you keep seeing a character you don't care about constantly getting more than your favorite, you will automatically be bitter about it. Some take out that frustration on the fans of the non-favorite. It's a similar us vs. them mentality you see in sport team rivalries.

That's sort of how I feel about Kale and Caulifla honestly. They get all this time dedicated to them, while the much more interesting characters from universe 6 get close to nothing. The very interesting in theory Namekians get only have an episode, not counting their basically pointless background fighting in the prior episodes. Cabba, who has had more buildup, only gets the big feat of doing what Caulifla already did earlier, becoming super saiyan 2.

Then there's Frieza who quite literally takes away from Yamcha and Buu being team candidates and it doesn't help that I'm still vehemently against Frieza returning at all, because there's very little left to do with him and him being here is making me retroactively like him less despite him previously being one of my favorite anime villains but now I'm just sick of his face.

I'm speaking strictly from a U7 standpoint; I feel the same way about Caulifla and Kale. But still attacking other fans cause their fave is getting poorly handled isnt right;

[The gr]

Is extremely childish to have wars based on characters,i wouldn't even be complaining if gohan & #17 got out of the ring in this week or next week,i would take good writing since is stupid to still see U7 defeating everyone and have Jiren rekt the rest of u7.Gohan & #17 had their awesome moment so i won't be whining if both of them get's taken in the next couple of ep by someone that isn't Jiren as long they both get an epic battle.

[precita]

I'm sick of my boy Gohan getting screwed. I can only hope he is in the final 2 of the tournament for his glory moments. I feel like Gohan's performance at this point will make or break his character in the eyes of the fandom. Rebuilding him as a fighter only for him not to do anything important would be the last straw that breaks the camels back for people, and nobody will care or believe he will do anything again.

[Issei189]

I really hate this 'war' in this fandom.

Goku fans v Vegeta fans v Gohan fans v Piccolo fans.

For fucks sake, am I the only one who's a fan of all of them?

I feel the same.

[Totamo]

Most Gohan fans(not all but stil) are really greedy,the kind you give an apple to and then they want all the apples you have,same here its not enough that Gohan does something,they will not be satisfied unless he takes it all.

This kind of greediness is what blinds them as well,in dbz outside of defeating Cell Gohan did not do much that sets him aside from the other supporting characters,in fact if we take away his Cell feat then you arrive at the conclusion that:
Gohan has been a stronger Krillin as far as the Freeza and Buu saga is concerned in terms of role and 5/6 of the Cell saga as well.

Gohan's fans cannot let go out of his best accomplishement and are still stuck on it,they cannot move on which is why they are not satisfied with what Gohan has gotten so far in this arc,when in reality 9/10 times he was mostly supporting/secondary role(that includes dbz as well).

I'm not even necessarily pining for Gohan to take it all, but what you're saying is just incorrect. Gohan was practically the main character of Z. It followed his journey of taking over where his father left off, up until Toriyama changed his damn mind and he got absorbed. (Which I think kinda killed the overall narrative honestly)

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[Totamo]

Most Gohan fans(not all but stil) are really greedy,the kind you give an apple to and then they want all the apples you have,same here its not enough that Gohan does something,they will not be satisfied unless he takes it all.

This kind of greediness is what blinds them as well,in dbz outside of defeating Cell Gohan did not do much that sets him aside from the other supporting characters,in fact if we take away his Cell feat then you arrive at the conclusion that:
Gohan has been a stronger Krillin as far as the Freeza and Buu saga is concerned in terms of role and 5/6 of the Cell saga as well.

Gohan's fans cannot let go out of his best accomplishement and are still stuck on it,they cannot move on which is why they are not satisfied with what Gohan has gotten so far in this arc,when in reality 9/10 times he was mostly supporting/secondary role(that includes dbz as well).

I'm not even necessarily pining for Gohan to take it all, but what you're saying is just incorrect. Gohan was practically the main character of Z. It followed his journey of taking over where his father left off, up until Toriyama changed his damn mind and he got absorbed. (Which I think kinda killed the overall narrative honestly)

So many issues with this one statement.

1. There is no Z, there is only ball.

2. Not one single saga was about Gohan. The saiyan saga was about Goku's heritage. The freeza saga was about Goku's ultimate challenge. The Cell saga was about a world without Goku goes to hell. The Buu saga was about Goku's impact on others. The only time Gohan did anything was if someone he cared about was involved. Unlike Goku, who is an actual catalyst for stories.

3. Goku wasn't even the one who trained Gohan, that was Piccolo who kidnapped him. Gohan is not like his dad. He doesn't do anything unless something happens, Goku makes those things happen.

[Noah]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSgo817UEAEYZ_P?format=jpg

Vegeta's arms are fucking huge.

This is probably Super Vegeta Blue, the new form he will show to us in the next episode

[kinisking]

Most Gohan fans(not all but stil) are really greedy,the kind you give an apple to and then they want all the apples you have,same here its not enough that Gohan does something,they will not be satisfied unless he takes it all.

This kind of greediness is what blinds them as well,in dbz outside of defeating Cell Gohan did not do much that sets him aside from the other supporting characters,in fact if we take away his Cell feat then you arrive at the conclusion that:
Gohan has been a stronger Krillin as far as the Freeza and Buu saga is concerned in terms of role and 5/6 of the Cell saga as well.

Gohan's fans cannot let go out of his best accomplishement and are still stuck on it,they cannot move on which is why they are not satisfied with what Gohan has gotten so far in this arc,when in reality 9/10 times he was mostly supporting/secondary role(that includes dbz as well).

Eh, depends on what you consider supporting role. If you don't count Goku, he had more focus than anyone in Z even in the other arcs. He played a key role in the raditz (that injury made it harder for raditz to struggle) and Vegeta( solo'd vegeta while krillin and goku did their thing, was the reason why krillin and him came to help goku, oozaru form fell on vegeta) fight. He was pretty much the main character during namek before Goku revived and in the beginning of the boo arc. Plus all the buildup. Definitely an important character.