PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:In all likelihood, Two-Base Theory will never be confirmed.
From a production standpoint, it's an outlandish-sounding idea that doesn't mesh with the general narrative being presented in the anime. It's a circumstance that arises because of the writers not considering the consequences of what adapting the movies so directly would entail, and trying to make up for the fact by quietly, if not gracefully, lowering the bar overall for the titular two Saiyans.
In the minds of people, yes, it will be confirmed, because it's the only way proponents can make sense of the power-scaling currently being presented. The narrative itself has never treated it as an issue, and likely never will. The show's producers never had any hardcore in-depth power-scaling in mind like some of the community do, just general ideas of where characters stand, and how they can utilize these standings for entertainment.
Think about it......... would the writers really have never brought up the idea of Two-Base Theory before if it has been a thing for so long, as people claim? It's an unrealistic assumption to make that anything would ever "confirm" it, like when Freud tried to "prove" his theories, instead of making theories around the evidence. It has never been mentioned as a thing in-universe, never been drawn attention to, never played up as something that has ever existed.
It has come to the point that "evidence" is being dredged up from a pamphlet for the movie the anime's arc was adapted from, which is already mainly fluff and open to interpretation. That, and because it was created long before production began on the anime, it is no longer relevant to the anime anyways, especially since the medium has already provided its own evidence, both directly and indirectly, of how things work.
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Back to the power levels, though. Given how it's still night time, this can't be too much longer after Gohan and Piccolo started training together again. Piccolo certainly believes that Gohan's current Ultimate isn't at its limit. Perhaps the two have figured out a way to increase its power, especially since Gohan was stronger than ever besides Ultimate up until that point.
That, and maybe Goku decides to use SS2 against his son like he did with Goku Black.
Anything could happen.
That is basically my take. The show is making everyone stronger, not nerfing everyone because fans want to believe that the Buu Saga' levels isn't fodder. If this two-base theory existed, it would have been stated in the Champa Saga. It's very telling that two-base theory fans cannot answer why no one claimed Goku's base was stronger against Hit than it was against Frost.
There is also goal post moving. Like Buu was removed from the U6 tourument for being too overpowered and would have wiped U6 outside of Hit since Goku and Vegeta was using their weak base and Super Saiyan. The moment we see Goku fight a stronger and faster Skinny Buu and was even, the narrative turned into 'Buu was holding back' despite Goku testing him to see how much stronger he has become.
incarnati0n wrote:This discussion of two base or not is getting tiring. I think people should just accept that they made their bases insanely strong in RoF because they had intention of just replacing traditional ssj with ssb and by the time of the U6 tournament they went back on it and just retconned how strong they were in base. After that we only see the strong base stuff in the fight of Goku vs Beerus and the Copy-Vegeta arc which were just inbetween stuff that doesn't really serve much for the main arcs.
We saw it with Goku vs. Skinny Buu. And Freeza is coming as well. So unless they retcon how that fight with final form Freeza went, there is no retcon. Also, we saw Super Saiyan Goku after the Battle of Gods Saga and he was stated to be stronger than ever to the point it took Vegeta six months to catch up.
