"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[HeroR]

I said you were being a jerk for the bolded statement, which was completely unneeded for your point.

and maybe I replied to this because I thought it would make my screen spit out gold

I'm confused, do you not like analogies? If you have a problem, you can PM me if you want.

What exactly is the analog here? I gave an opinion as to why I think Toyotaro cut the stable time loop other than 'he was being smart' and I get this response that doesn't add anything to the conversation.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

If we have a problem, we can take it into PM's. If not, just drop it, because I'm not interested in being baited into a squabble.

[HeroR]

If we have a problem, we can take it into PM's. If not, just drop it, because I'm not interested in being baited into a squabble.

How exactly am I baiting you?

[Dbzfan94]

Whoever drew that poster made a mistake as Piccolo only has 3 fingers and a thumb instead of having 4 fingers and a thumb.

Piccolo has 3 fingers in the manga, so it's not a complete mistake

[namekiansaiyan]

Whoever drew that poster made a mistake as Piccolo only has 3 fingers and a thumb instead of having 4 fingers and a thumb.

Piccolo has 3 fingers in the manga, so it's not a complete mistake

Yeah i know, there is nothing wrong with the poster , I was looking at a poor quality picture.

[Kishido]

[Chuquita]

Is that the thumbnail for 73?

Even though they already did a "Saiyaman Movie" filler ep during the Buu arc, I'm still excited to see another one (if only because I'm curious if this is going to be them lampshading/parodying what happened to Toriyama in DBE. Like they're making a Great Saiyaman movie, but the whole thing ends up wildly inaccurate to what the actual Great Saiyaman/Gohan is like thanks to executive meddling).

[Will]

To quickly and succinctly put this in perspective, the abime and this chart state that Black the origin one that Trunks is fighting was created from Beerus investigating Zamasu and Goku fighting him. That's what the chart and anime state. They act of investigating Black lead to his own creating through fighting Goku. The problem is that in this original one where Black was created Zamasu was investigated, fought Goku, but for some reason Beerus decided not to kill Zamasu and Zamasu carried out his plan. The question everyone wants to know is why didn't Beerus kill Zamasu in the original timeline which created him as well. The chart and Toei says that's how it played out, not that Zamasu learned of Goku through some other means.

My interpretation is that the split occurs at the point where Whis did his temporal do-over. They literally watched Zamasu kill Gowasu to make sure he was actually planning to do it, right? Then Whis did his do-over. The original timeline where they literally saw Zamasu kill Gowasu is presumably Black's timeline. Of course, this raises the question of how Goku could have had his body stolen if he technically doesn't exist in that timeline anymore due to being a part of the do-over and thus not being in the non-do-over timeline, so I guess it doesn't really work either way.

That also doesn't work because we see Gowasu's assassination in Black's timeline and in that one, and they were slightly different (dying on the table vs dying on the nearby courtyard).

Yeah exactly:
http://imgur.com/a/e6IJY from Terez27
In Black timeline, there's no tea on the table, Gowasu is stabbed in the back and not in the neck.
And Gowasu didn't die on the table but on the ground.

[Ki Breaker]

Dragonball evolution super edition

[namekiansaiyan]

Is that the thumbnail for 73?

Even though they already did a "Saiyaman Movie" filler ep during the Buu arc, I'm still excited to see another one (if only because I'm curious if this is going to be them lampshading/parodying what happened to Toriyama in DBE. Like they're making a Great Saiyaman movie, but the whole thing ends up wildly inaccurate to what the actual Great Saiyaman/Gohan is like thanks to executive meddling).

I want to know who the co-stars are as the main comedy will probably come from them.

[MisteryOne]

I suppose we are getting the new opening and ending when the new arc starts right?

My interpretation is that the split occurs at the point where Whis did his temporal do-over. They literally watched Zamasu kill Gowasu to make sure he was actually planning to do it, right? Then Whis did his do-over. The original timeline where they literally saw Zamasu kill Gowasu is presumably Black's timeline. Of course, this raises the question of how Goku could have had his body stolen if he technically doesn't exist in that timeline anymore due to being a part of the do-over and thus not being in the non-do-over timeline, so I guess it doesn't really work either way.

That also doesn't work because we see Gowasu's assassination in Black's timeline and in that one, and they were slightly different (dying on the table vs dying on the nearby courtyard).

Yeah exactly:
http://imgur.com/a/e6IJY from Terez27
In Black timeline, there's no tea on the table, Gowasu is stabbed in the back and not in the neck.
And Gowasu didn't die on the table but on the ground.

Yeah this is the problem with Toei's timelines, they doesn't make sense at all. Everything started in Black's original timeine, when everything was exactly the same except that Beerus didn't kill Zamasu. Why? It doesn't make sense, because in both versions Trunks tell him about Black and Zamasu being in the future.

For the moment, the manga has avoided that. In facr, is not difficult to avoid that stupid time loop at all. Just make the timelines separate in a more logical point. For example, they could have just make the timeline being separated when Trunks travelled to the past. They could have made a different background for Black, like for example it all started like in the manga (Zamasu learns about Goku thanks to Kaioshin and Godtube) and then become insterested in fight Goku, he loses ans then he eventually becomes Goku Black. Trunks travelling to the past could have created the actual timeline, where because of Black travelling to the past Goku met Zamasu before he was supposed to.

That's my headcanon for the moment, since the Whis time rewind thing is not supposed to make timelines so it can't work either. This is one of the things that manga did better than anime, like Mai's fake death.

[Chuquita]

Is that the thumbnail for 73?

Even though they already did a "Saiyaman Movie" filler ep during the Buu arc, I'm still excited to see another one (if only because I'm curious if this is going to be them lampshading/parodying what happened to Toriyama in DBE. Like they're making a Great Saiyaman movie, but the whole thing ends up wildly inaccurate to what the actual Great Saiyaman/Gohan is like thanks to executive meddling).

I want to know who the co-stars are as the main comedy will probably come from them.

Maybe this says who?:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Source: http://itest.2ch.net/shiba/test/read.cg ... 1482247895

[Will]

I suppose we are getting the new opening and ending when the new arc starts right?

That also doesn't work because we see Gowasu's assassination in Black's timeline and in that one, and they were slightly different (dying on the table vs dying on the nearby courtyard).

Yeah exactly:
http://imgur.com/a/e6IJY from Terez27
In Black timeline, there's no tea on the table, Gowasu is stabbed in the back and not in the neck.
And Gowasu didn't die on the table but on the ground.

Yeah this is the problem with Toei's timelines, they doesn't make sense at all. Everything started in Black's original timeine, when everything was exactly the same except that Beerus didn't kill Zamasu. Why? It doesn't make sense, because in both versions Trunks tell him about Black and Zamasu being in the future.

For the moment, the manga has avoided that. In facr, is not difficult to avoid that stupid time loop at all. Just make the timelines separate in a more logical point. For example, they could have just make the timeline being separated when Trunks travelled to the past. They could have made a different background for Black, like for example it all started like in the manga (Zamasu learns about Goku thanks to Kaioshin and Godtube) and then become insterested in fight Goku, he loses ans then he eventually becomes Goku Black. Trunks travelling to the past could have created the actual timeline, where because of Black travelling to the past Goku met Zamasu before he was supposed to.

That's my headcanon for the moment, since the Whis time rewind thing is not supposed to make timelines so it can't work either. This is one of the things that manga did better than anime, like Mai's fake death.

For me the split happens when Trunks arrived ( because he cause change by warning Beerus about Zamasu which result in Zamasu dying)

The chart stated that the main/Goku history and Black timeline were the same timeline but because of Beerus killing Zamasu (because of Trunks coming in the past), the main/Goku history is reorganized in two timeline, the main history and Black timeline:

"The main history is linked to Future Trunks's history. But because Beerus destroyed Zamasu, the main history is reorganized, splitting in two" from the chart
"It is split into several timelines, due to Future Trunks coming to Goku's history" from the chart

If Future Trunks hadn't time traveled to warn about Black, Zamasu/Black's plan would have happens in Goku's timeline.

And the Chart only show Future Trunks going to Goku's history, his Future history and the new future history, no arrow show Trunks going to Black history.

The death scene of Gowasu in black timeline clearly show that the events happens differently and that they weren't exactly the same.

[alakazam^]

Maybe this says who?:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Source: http://itest.2ch.net/shiba/test/read.cg ... 1482247895

"Gohan's misfortune! It can't be, the Great Saiyaman gets turned into a movie!?"

Evil can't be forgiven!! The ally of Justice, Great Saiyaman appears!!

Unexpected events get Gohan in high spirits!

The Great Saiyaman and Mister Satan will have their dream match in a movie! The Great Saiyaman is to be played by an actor called Bari Quand (he's the guy Boo sees in a magazine and shifts his face into to try and kiss a girl in the Boo arc, his pun apparently comes from the French company "Bariquand et Marre" that manufactured barber's clippers) but Gohan himself volunteers to be his stuntman in dangerous scenes.

Jaco this week

A great error during patrol!?

In the middle of escorting the heinous criminal "Watagasshu", Jaco stops by a ramen stand in space. While distracted, the criminal escapes...!?

I suppose we are getting the new opening and ending when the new arc starts right?

For me the split happens when Trunks arrived ( because he cause change by warning Beerus about Zamasu which result in Zamasu dying)

Trunks travelling doesn't create splits because it doesn't increase the numbers of Time Rings. The only reason they go to Universe 10 is because Black gets pulled into the past and fights Goku, not because of Trunks alone.

By this logic, Trunks killing Freeza's men is what splits the timelines originally.

[Ki Breaker]

"Gohan's misfortune! It can't be, the Great Saiyaman gets turned into a movie!?"

how is it a misfortune to have a movie made about you

Unexpected events get Gohan in high spirits!

Probably the criminal Jaco let escape came and gohan saved the day, everyone praised how strong he was and he finally understood he needs to train for real

[Kagari]

Saiyaman is still a thing in 2017. What a time to be alive.

[MisteryOne]

I really hope we get some foreshadowing to Gohan's return and its not just the typical Great Saiyaman stuff.

Maybe this says who?:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Source: http://itest.2ch.net/shiba/test/read.cg ... 1482247895

"Gohan's misfortune! It can't be, the Great Saiyaman gets turned into a movie!?"

Evil can't be forgiven!! The ally of Justice, Great Saiyaman appears!!

Unexpected events get Gohan in high spirits!

The Great Saiyaman and Mister Satan will have their dream match in a movie! The Great Saiyaman is to be played by an actor called Barry Kaan (Barii Kaan, whatever that's a pun on) but Gohan himself volunteers to be his stuntman in dangerous scenes.

Jaco this week

A great error during patrol!?

In the middle of escorting the heinous criminal "Watagasshu", Jaco stops by a ramen stand in space. While distracted, the criminal escapes...!?

I suppose we are getting the new opening and ending when the new arc starts right?

Trunks travelling doesn't create splits because it doesn't increase the numbers of Time Rings. The only reason they go to Universe 10 is because Black gets pulled into the past and fights Goku, not because of Trunks alone.

By this logic, Trunks killing Freeza's men is what splits the timelines originally.

Wasn't thay what happened in the Cell arc? Trunks killing Mecha Frieza and his men already changed history because it was different from the one he came from, where it was Goku who killed them. In fact if that action didn't separate the timelines then time travel in DB doesn't make any sense, since they were different timelines from that point because different things happened on them.

Even if not, the time travel in the anime version still doesn't make sense.

[alakazam^]

The actor mentioned is the guy in a magazine that Boo changes his face into in the Boo arc.

[Ki Breaker]

The actor mentioned is the guy in a magazine that Boo changes his face into in the Boo arc.

That's great They remembered such a thing

[MisteryOne]

Sorry if this has already been said, but are we getting an episode this week? I know they will rest for 1st January but I don't know if there is something that doesn't allow them to make an episode this week.

I really want to see what happens with Hit, even if it's just a filler episode again.