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17 outright forced goku to use blue despite the latter having no intentions to use it not to mention despite both holding back goku confirms he would be a terrifying if he were an enemy no point saying that if he weren't somewhere blue levelprecita wrote:Gohan won't be at blue level anyway. 17 isn't either.
Goku is holding back.
And prior to that, Gohan had been training continuously with Piccolo off screen since the end of the Resurrection F arc.kinisking wrote:Where are people getting 6 hours ? Gohan trains over 24 hours with Piccolo.
Simere wrote:People keep saying it, is there something I missed that says it will be a tag team match?
Witness the father-son showdown! In “Dragon Ball Super”, after finishing his training, Gohan challenges Gokuu!
Title: Facing the Wall that Must be Overcome! Gokuu VS Gohan
Gohan & Piccolo VS Gokuu and Tenshinhan?!
Through his training with Piccolo, Gohan came to realize that the one he must surpass is his father Gokuu. So he teams up with Piccolo and they take on the duo of Gokuu and Tenshinhan! Facing Gohan, who having finished his training has now obtained unprecedented power, Gokuu will…?!
Gohan, surpass your father!!
The method Piccolo pointed out is?!
Through Piccolo’s training, both Gohan’s power and will were strengthened!
Watch out for Tenshinhan, who fights using peculiar attacks!
His allies are shocked at the change in Gohan!
Gokuu this week: Seeing his son’s growth?!
Gokuu is surprised at how Gohan has changed, and cannot hide how elated he is that another powerful ally has appeared. After the team battle, he challenges Gohan to a one on one fight?!
So looks like everyone who's been craving Gohan relevance can be happy that he's having a big "change" (I specifically did NOT choose to translate this as "transformation", because though that could indeed fit, I don't want people to think that there's some new form on displayThey're probably talking about him being Ultimate, I would suspect).
To just get back to his previous, still relatively weak level. From there they only had 9 hours left.kinisking wrote:Where are people getting 6 hours ? Gohan trains over 24 hours with Piccolo.
Oh, okay. I was thinking actual tag team.tag team
NORTH AMERICAN
informal
a pair of people working together.
Of course they would. Did you not see the outrages when SSJB Goku fought 17 and Krillin?precita wrote:I wonder if people will complain when Tenshihan is shown on par with Piccolo or can deflect attacks from Gohan.
I definitely prefer if the lower levels are consistent, but when we have all these characters being relevant I care much less about them.Beyond wrote:By the end of this arc all the power level fans will be forced to see the truth if they somehow haven't all ready.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
If all 4 of them are on an even level, I would be 100% ok with it.Freeza9000 wrote:Of course they would. Did you not see the outrages when SSJB Goku fought 17 and Krillin?precita wrote:I wonder if people will complain when Tenshihan is shown on par with Piccolo or can deflect attacks from Gohan.
The main problem is that Elder Kai said that he draw all Gohan potential so he final state should be ''Mystic'' that was stronger than Super Boo but weaker than its later absorptions and Vegetto. I'm not saying that Gohan is incapable to train and get even stronger as "Mystic", but the excuse "he has more potential to be unlocked" is kinda lameperucho1990 wrote:I dont understand the complain of Gohan about to reach Blue level when Vegeta himself said that Gohan the biggest potential among the Z-fighters(of course including Goku and Vegeta) which happened way back in pre FnF.
And besides, he just got his Ultimate form back, that's what gave him the boost.kinisking wrote:Where are people getting 6 hours ? Gohan trains over 24 hours with Piccolo.
More or less.HeroR wrote:You mean like always?Dbzfan94 wrote:Completely agree. I wouldn't mind if Vegeta jobs this time eitherMajinMan wrote:I actually like the minimal screentime Vegeta is getting in this arc. The show is giving more spotlight to other side characters, and it's been great. They're really trying to tell the fans that it won't be just the Goku and Vegeta show this time. Focusing too much on Vegeta and Goku was starting to get boring honestly, so this is a nice change.
Old Kaioshin released all of Gohan "physical potential".jeffbr92 wrote:
The main problem is that Elder Kai said that he draw all Gohan potential so he final state should be ''Mystic'' that was stronger than Super Boo but weaker than its later absorptions and Vegetto. I'm not saying that Gohan is incapable to train and get even stronger as "Mystic", but the excuse "he has more potential to be unlocked" is kinda lame
It's repetitive, but that scene itself had Goku pointing out that many people can unlock potential and it's not an unique ability, which made Kaioshin claim that he's special because he can take them beyond their limits (the same thing was said about the Majin seal in the same saga though...).jeffbr92 wrote:The main problem is that Elder Kai said that he draw all Gohan potential so he final state should be ''Mystic'' that was stronger than Super Boo but weaker than its later absorptions and Vegetto. I'm not saying that Gohan is incapable to train and get even stronger as "Mystic", but the excuse "he has more potential to be unlocked" is kinda lameperucho1990 wrote:I dont understand the complain of Gohan about to reach Blue level when Vegeta himself said that Gohan the biggest potential among the Z-fighters(of course including Goku and Vegeta) which happened way back in pre FnF.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Honestly, with the way they're building Gohan, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one to job. As much as I enjoy seeing Vegeta get grind into dust, it would be more impactful to see Gohan get his shit kick in after he did a major raise to power. That's basically what happened to him during the Buu Saga.Dbzfan94 wrote: More or less.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Well that's the thing I'm really up in the air with this. On one hand, he's getting so much hype and very well could end up being the MVP or even the hero of the saga. At the same time, last time he received massive hype he ended up getting absorbed. It's really up in the air for me in regards to Gohan.HeroR wrote:Honestly, with the way they're building Gohan, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one to job. As much as I enjoy seeing Vegeta get grind into dust, it would be more impactful to see Gohan get his shit kick in after he did a major raise to power. That's basically what happened to him during the Buu Saga.Dbzfan94 wrote: More or less.
Or he's being setup to battle Toppo in the ToP?HeroR wrote:Honestly, with the way they're building Gohan, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one to job. As much as I enjoy seeing Vegeta get grind into dust, it would be more impactful to see Gohan get his shit kick in after he did a major raise to power. That's basically what happened to him during the Buu Saga.Dbzfan94 wrote: More or less.
Yup, we'll see with Gohan. Even if he jobs in the end, he'll do well though.TheMathemagician wrote:Well that's the thing I'm really up in the air with this. On one hand, he's getting so much hype and very well could end up being the MVP or even the hero of the saga. At the same time, last time he received massive hype he ended up getting absorbed. It's really up in the air for me in regards to Gohan.HeroR wrote:Honestly, with the way they're building Gohan, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one to job. As much as I enjoy seeing Vegeta get grind into dust, it would be more impactful to see Gohan get his shit kick in after he did a major raise to power. That's basically what happened to him during the Buu Saga.Dbzfan94 wrote: More or less.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Yup, we'll see with Gohan. Even if he jobs in the end, he'll do well though.TheMathemagician wrote:Well that's the thing I'm really up in the air with this. On one hand, he's getting so much hype and very well could end up being the MVP or even the hero of the saga. At the same time, last time he received massive hype he ended up getting absorbed. It's really up in the air for me in regards to Gohan.HeroR wrote:Honestly, with the way they're building Gohan, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one to job. As much as I enjoy seeing Vegeta get grind into dust, it would be more impactful to see Gohan get his shit kick in after he did a major raise to power. That's basically what happened to him during the Buu Saga.Dbzfan94 wrote: More or less.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
