"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[ekrolo2]

How much screen time has Bulma gotten in the manga? Is it near the same as Gohan?

She's in it considerably more than Gohan, he's in it for like 3-5 pages max.

[The gr]

How much screen time has Bulma gotten in the manga? Is it near the same as Gohan?

She's in it considerably more than Gohan, he's in it for like 3-5 pages max.

That's how much toriyama cares for gohan , This is surreal, here's the reason why the DBS manga needed to include rof because it at Least feature gohan and the z figthers.Bulma got decent screentime in the Manga

[Lord Beerus]

How much screen time has Bulma gotten in the manga? Is it near the same as Gohan?

She's in it considerably more than Gohan, he's in it for like 3-5 pages max.

That's how much toriyama cares for gohan , This is surreal, here's the reason why the DBS manga needed to include rof because it at Least feature gohan and the z figthers.Bulma got decent screentime in the Manga

It also really puts into perspective how much the anime is willing to give Gohan more screentime.

[The gr]

She's in it considerably more than Gohan, he's in it for like 3-5 pages max.

That's how much toriyama cares for gohan , This is surreal, here's the reason why the DBS manga needed to include rof because it at Least feature gohan and the z figthers.Bulma got decent screentime in the Manga

It also really puts into perspective how much the anime is willing to give Gohan more screentime.

And is just sad , Why toriyama didn't include him in the outline,is just hard to hear those words, toriyama better make up mind for the next Saga

[Lord Beerus]

That's how much toriyama cares for gohan , This is surreal, here's the reason why the DBS manga needed to include rof because it at Least feature gohan and the z figthers.Bulma got decent screentime in the Manga

It also really puts into perspective how much the anime is willing to give Gohan more screentime.

And is just sad , Why toriyama didn't include him in the outline,is just hard to hear those words, toriyama better make up mind for the next Saga

Let just hope the Zen Exhibition Matches, as well as the recruitment episodes, happen in the manga, too

[TKA]

I feel Zamasu lacked a lot of the presence he had in the anime.... in the anime it truly felt like he was making an ascension into ultimate divine strength.

Eh. Zamas was always presented as out of his league, and it's hammered home when Beerus easily eliminates him. Also when Vegeto beats the shit out of him and he flips out. He's a punk that thinks too highly of himself. He isn't supposed to look cool or "divine" (considering that he spent his last bit of screentime as a hulked up purple slime man thing). I'd say the fact that the anime put so much into making him look cool is just another instance of it being scatterbrained and getting its priorities skewed. The manga did a good job by not hyping up.

Many many words

I feel like I've adequately explained my views. I would just be restating them for a third time, and that kind of circular discussion just isn't fun for those browsing the thread, probably. If you wanna continue this, feel free to PM me.

[The gr]

It also really puts into perspective how much the anime is willing to give Gohan more screentime.

And is just sad , Why toriyama didn't include him in the outline,is just hard to hear those words, toriyama better make up mind for the next Saga

Let just hope the Zen Exhibition Matches, as well as the recruitment episodes, happen in the manga, too

the exhibition matches they need to happen, but for recruitment,they better rushed them, because the anime is making them boring and padded out, + all of the recruitment eps, like doujo and poachers just scream filler, I think this continuity will deliver a story that is not padded out.

[OLKv3]

Toei has been trying to make Gohan look important, they even added in his training way before Toriyama added it in

[batistabus]

How much screen time has Bulma gotten in the manga? Is it near the same as Gohan?

No way, Bulma's a prominent figure in the Super manga. She had her adventure to Zuno's realm with Jaco, and she's been an important expositor in the Zamasu arc.

And is just sad , Why toriyama didn't include him in the outline,is just hard to hear those words, toriyama better make up mind for the next Saga

Gohan just wants to have a family and do research. Why can't his fans support his dreams? Anyway, it seems he'll be doing something this arc.

[The gr]

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And is just sad , Why toriyama didn't include him in the outline,is just hard to hear those words, toriyama better make up mind for the next Saga

Gohan just wants to have a family and do research. Why can't his fans support his dreams? Anyway, it seems he'll be doing something this arc.

I'm supporting his dream,I'm one of those few people that liked gohan from DBZ to DBS, I'm just disappointed that he didn't even talked to trunks

[batistabus]

I'm supporting his dream,I'm one of those few people that liked gohan from DBZ to DBS, I'm just disappointed that he didn't even talked to trunks

Honestly, so am I. It's still possible that they'll have some sort of interaction when they return to the past.

[HeroR]

From the plot-hole that is Goku's base form power.

Because Toriyama wrote the Battle of Gods & Resurrection "F" movies. In this continuity, Goku's & Vegeta base forms had the power of SSG, their Super Saiyan forms were permanently turned into Super Saiyan Blue, and they abandoned Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, and Super Saiyan God. Then he wrote the next story arcs (Universe 6 arc, Future Trunks arc, Universe Survival arc) as continuations of these movies.

Toyotaro retconned this for Goku & Vegeta, and eliminated the base with SSG power state, keeping them in their regular levels, and having them use SS, SS2, SS3, SSG, and SSB. Apparently forgot to do the same to Black, because he is obviously a Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God (although originaly weakened due to the body change), and his Super Saiyan form eventually evolved into Super Saiyan Rose, like Goku's & Vegeta's Super Saiyan forms evolved into Super Saiyan Blue between the 2 movies.

Toei on the other hand are either kept Goku & Vegeta as Saiyans with the power of Super Saiyan God, but sometimes they throw them back to their regular levels with their regular Super Saiyan forms.

Finally, both Toyotaro & Toei are now treating Super Saiyan Blue as a form beyond Super Saiyan (God), while in the movie it was treated as an altered regular Super Saiyan form.

And that's the reason things are messed up & theories like the 2 base theory are needed to fix the plot-hole that was created ever since BoG came out.

They didn't abandon it at all. It was never said in Resurrection 'F' that their 'god power' was always on. All Goku said was that he mastered god ki. In the movie, everyone sensed base form Goku so no god ki was used. Also, Toryama said that Goku may not used those other Super Saiyan forms again, not that Goku couldn't. Also, even in the movie it was said that Goku took the power of Super Saiyan God, not that his base was actual Super Saiyan God.

Toei never throw them back to their regular level, or whatever that is. Unless you think after all their training their base is still only at Battle of Gods' level, which makes no sense even if you believe in the two-base theory.

The movie didn't treat Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan as an 'altered regular Super Saiyan form'. It treated it as Super Saiyan with god ki, the same way the anime and manga treats it. They just explained it more and call it beyond Super Saiyan God, which the movie more or less implied.

[HeroR]

Minor complaint but they way Toyo handles the Potara retcon was very poor, it was one of those "let's have someone conveniently say something important so our protagonists overhear" cliches, had Vegeta not been there that moment then everyone probably would have been obliterated.

But man I do freaking love his Merged Zamasu design! Really wish he would have sent that design to Toei and be like here use this.

Toyo next chapter should make Trunks go Ikari and have the Spirit Sword at the same time.... But seriously I think he will have Zamasu defuse have Trunks take out drained Black, Zamasu proves to be too much with his immortality and they call Zen-Oh. Let's just hope Toyo remembers to draw Trunks next chapter in the least...

Personally glad he didn't. Like Zamasu and Black, I don't like how the manga draw Merged Zamasu.

[Basako]

Toei has been trying to make Gohan look important, they even added in his training way before Toriyama added it in

Well, maybe they shouldn't have, because in this new arc he is still not ready.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

They didn't abandon it at all. It was never said in Resurrection 'F' that their 'god power' was always on. All Goku said was that he mastered god ki. In the movie, everyone sensed base form Goku so no god ki was used.

I never said that Goku & Vegeta had god ki in base. Goku & Vegeta never had god ki in their base/SS forms, ever. They had the power of SSG, but without god ki.

Also, Toryama said that Goku may not used those other Super Saiyan forms again, not that Goku couldn't.

I never said that Goku couldn't use SS2/3/God. He can use them, but he abanoned them.

Also, even in the movie it was said that Goku took the power of Super Saiyan God, not that his base was actual Super Saiyan God.

I never said that either. His base form simply made SSG useless, as Toriyama pointed out.

Toei never throw them back to their regular level, or whatever that is.

Is this why we see base Goku comparable to base Gohan & Kuririn in one episode, and then strong enough to fight with a powered-up Majin Boo at full power in the next?

The movie didn't treat Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan as an 'altered regular Super Saiyan form'. It treated it as Super Saiyan with god ki, the same way the anime and manga treats it. They just explained it more and call it beyond Super Saiyan God, which the movie more or less implied.

Toriyama didn't even name the transformation, and Vegeta even calls it the "legendary Super Saiyan" in the movie. Goku says that it's Super Saiyan, but a bit different, not that it's a form beyond Super Saiyan.

[jeffbr92]

I didn't read the whole translated chapter yet, but Gowasu is still dead?

[dbgtFO]

I didn't read the whole translated chapter yet, but Gowasu is still dead?

Present Gowas is very much alive and was only mortally wounded by Black.

[Rhuagh]

Guys, Resurrection 'F' is not in the Super manga because Toyotaro already did the manga adaptation as promotion to the film 2 months before Super began. There are 3 chapters and it covers the resurrection of Freeza, the Z Fighters x Freeza Army battle and the beginning of Goku x Freeza.

If you want to see Gohan drawn by Toyotaro in detail, search for it, the art is great.

[Scsigs]

Guys, Resurrection 'F' is not in the Super manga because Toyotaro already did the manga adaptation as promotion to the film 2 months before Super began. There are 3 chapters and it covers the resurrection of Freeza, the Z Fighters x Freeza Army battle and the beginning of Goku x Freeza.

If you want to see Gohan drawn by Toyotaro in detail, search for it, the art is great.

I thought it was because it was a retread of things already established in the movie & he wanted to get ahead, since the manga's only a monthly release.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Guys, Resurrection 'F' is not in the Super manga because Toyotaro already did the manga adaptation as promotion to the film 2 months before Super began. There are 3 chapters and it covers the resurrection of Freeza, the Z Fighters x Freeza Army battle and the beginning of Goku x Freeza.

If you want to see Gohan drawn by Toyotaro in detail, search for it, the art is great.

I thought it was because it was a retread of things already established in the movie & he wanted to get ahead, since the manga's only a monthly release.

It's arguably both, but I'd wager the fact that he'd just drawn most of the movie had more to do with it not being part of the Super Manga