That doesn't make sense, even SSBKK Goku at this point is stronger and stronger than SSJ2 Kefla . In episode 122 Jiren was stated to have the strongest ki Vegeta had felt even when watching the fight with Kefla and Goku after Toppo left. Later in episode 123 Goku claims that the new powered up Jiren with a simple punch was the hardest Goku had felt which also implies this Jiren is stronger than even SSJ2 Kefla. Even so with have SSBKK Goku and Vegeta was able to push Jiren with attack and affecting him with blows. IDK where you're think SSBKK is equal to SSBE, even around it's first appearance we see Goku resorting to rely on Vegeta on hitting Jiren with ki powered attack which have pushed Jiren to counter with ki powered attacks of his own such as glare and ki powered punch(the same thing which is the most powerful thing Goku had felt). Even if you assume that Vegeta was on pair he went from struggling to overpower a hakai with a final flash to punching through it after his power up(stronger blasts as Belmod told him to use more force). For reference the Kamehameha(which should be similar if not less) increases it's user power level 2x, so Vegeta would've got over 2x as strong from that point. Later in episode 127 Jiren compliments Vegeta's punch even when fatigue which proves he was doing better than SSBKK Goku and 17.PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:Easy. Pure strength, GoD Toppo is the strongest.RecolorSaiyan wrote:Rank these 3
SSBE Vegeta, GoD Toppo and SS2 Kefla
SS2 Kefla is much stronger than even SSB/KK Goku, whom SSBE Vegeta is equal to.
In terms of ability to hit above their paygrade, Vegeta takes the cake with his Final Explosion and family-oriented power bursts.
I also don't understand why you think Toppo is the strongest considering Vegeta pretty much was overwhleming him with punches to the point Toppo couldn't fight back and had his more stronger hakai blasts being punch through with ease as belmod told him to use more force.
ssj3kakarot wrote:ss2 keflaPerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:Easy. Pure strength, GoD Toppo is the strongest.RecolorSaiyan wrote:Rank these 3
SSBE Vegeta, GoD Toppo and SS2 Kefla
SS2 Kefla is much stronger than even SSB/KK Goku, whom SSBE Vegeta is equal to.
In terms of ability to hit above their paygrade, Vegeta takes the cake with his Final Explosion and family-oriented power bursts.
God Toppo
SSBE Vegeta
Simply because I think if you put 2nd Omen Goku vs G-Toppo or SSBE Vegeta, they would fair worse compared to SS2 Kefla.
I agree with the statement about Vegeta and hitting above his paygrade though.
Why? Vegeta and Toppo are vastly more powerful than SSJ2 Kefla let alone episode 123 SSBKK Goku or Jiren from 122 would be more powerful . Omen Goku in his 2nd phase, would have it harder to dodge attacks and be more overwhelmed in power, not to mention he'll have a harder time hurting either of them espeically the guy coated with Hakai energy. I don't why people are thinking SSJ2 Kefla is stronger than either SSBE or Toppo, I'm waiting for proof.
Where is Kefla being above SSBE Vegeta or Toppo coming from? She's not let alone stronger than SSBKK Goku from 123 or SSBE in it's eariler apperance, as they were affecting and pushing Jiren with blows. The same Jiren whom had the hardest hits Goku have ever felt and a more powerful version than the one that was stated to have the strongest Ki he felt by Vegeta. It's worse with SSBE Vegeta getting a zenkai in 126 from struggling with hakai blast with the final flash to punching through one with more effort by Toppo later on.CTAkuma wrote:Hakai can't kill beings who are equal or stronger than you, which was shown against Blue Evolution Vegeta whom Toppo lost to in raw power. Kefla is superior than Blue Evolution Vegeta thus also ToppoKenneth La Torre wrote:Nah. God toppo is stronger than kefla. A simple hakai was enought to warp the world of void and crack the arena in half.