Araki wrote:
Is Toshio even returning after this episode? He didn't mention any other ever since, and a tweet last month made it sound like he had left.
As mentioned above, he was talking about Hiromi Tsuru's passing.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
It could be just Tomioka could be writing all the episodes to end the arc, just like he did the Trunks arc. He wrote the first 5 of this he could maybe write the last 5 or so too.
Assuming the pacing doesn't slow to a crawl in the final battle then I expect the final battle with U11 to be about 5 episodes, and if it's around that length I fully expect Tomioka to write most, if not all of them.
ArchedThunder wrote:
Assuming the pacing doesn't slow to a crawl in the final battle then I expect the final battle with U11 to be about 5 episodes, and if it's around that length I fully expect Tomioka to write most, if not all of them.
Your last prediction was pretty spot-on! With the time they have left it really can't go more than 7 unless they start doing seconds per episode which would run well past March. I feel like having Tomioka write the whole of the climax would do wonders to keep it tonally consistent.
In terms of production schedule, they should already have some post ToP-stuff in progress, right?
ArchedThunder wrote:
Assuming the pacing doesn't slow to a crawl in the final battle then I expect the final battle with U11 to be about 5 episodes, and if it's around that length I fully expect Tomioka to write most, if not all of them.
Your last prediction was pretty spot-on! With the time they have left it really can't go more than 7 unless they start doing seconds per episode which would run well past March. I feel like having Tomioka write the whole of the climax would do wonders to keep it tonally consistent.
In terms of production schedule, they should already have some post ToP-stuff in progress, right?
Doubt it. Production still seems pretty terrible if Takahashi's 3 weeks are to go by, I think most people will be tied up to push this final legs of this tournament through, honestly if everything continues to be on fire from now until the finale of the ToP, I think this ToP might be considered one of the biggest achievement in anime ever.
The new years break has come at a very good time, hopefully that extra week could mean some extra polish on the finale.
Unfortunately seems we're still a million miles aways from having solo supervisors (barring Yashima of course) just imagine the likes of Tate, Shimanuki and Karasawa to name a few doing entire episodes!
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Doubt it. Production still seems pretty terrible if Takahashi's 3 weeks are to go by, I think most people will be tied up to push this final legs of this tournament through, honestly if everything continues to be on fire from now until the finale of the ToP, I think this ToP might be considered one of the biggest achievement in anime ever.
The new years break has come at a very good time, hopefully that extra week could mean some extra polish on the finale.
Unfortunately seems we're still a million miles aways from having solo supervisors (barring Yashima of course) just imagine the likes of Tate, Shimanuki and Karasawa to name a few doing entire episodes!
People need to be aware that the 3 weeks Takahashi got is not the series average, if it was we would't have supervisors regularly getting around 8 weeks between episodes. Some animators, like Nikaido, were likely working on the episode before him.
Also the industry standard has become 2 or more supervisors for action shows, and with Super's more detailed designs it will likely stick with 2 supervisors per episode for the rest of its run.
It's possible that the supervisor of the first post ToP episode has started their work there, but that really depends on when the ToP ends.
My bad, I should have clarified a bit better. I was asking more about the scripting and pre-animation parts of the production process. I figured it was still too early for the animation teams just yet with the big climax still looming. Sorry for the mix-up there.
BlueBasilisk wrote:My bad, I should have clarified a bit better. I was asking more about the scripting and pre-animation parts of the production process. I figured it was still too early for the animation teams just yet with the big climax still looming. Sorry for the mix-up there.
Sad to see the streak of episodes with at least one highlight end, but considering the abillities of the fighters involved, I'd say it was well planned to have this one be the breather.
Well that kinda sucked, but it wasn't unexpected. After such a strong string of episodes, we had to have some downtime. I liked the storyboard...? Direction wasn't great, though.
Shame to see the likes of Kenji Miuma and Atsushi Nikaido on an episode of such poor quality. They can do so much better.
Next week should be a nice return to form, and as I think everyone hoped and predicted, Ken Otsuka will be popping up to animate some mechs (his speciality)!
Art was quite inconsistent in this one, didn't like it too much.
Like Ajay said, it kinda sucked (compared to this new higher standard we have now)
How i got into this shit:
Spoiler:
Not an OG Dragon ball viewer having watched it on tv, got into the franchise through Youtube. First impression: Testosterone filled, manly looking buff dudes, punching other buff dudes, in space, with lasers, with incredible superhuman strength and drama; i was hooked. Then, before i knew it (literally before i knew it; since i started to become aware of the show after i saw a clip of Goku vs Hit on facebook), DBS came along. Now i'm in for the same experience and journey as you guys had with Dragon Ball Z on toonami, only this time it's Dragon Ball Super. Feels great to be able to follow a Dragon Ball series live. Let's. Fucking. Gooo!
Directing was bad, I wish they keep the guy who directed episode 118, and fire everyone else(no offense but directing is hit or miss), I wish they got directors from Gintama or JJBA, who can make episodes with average animation look interesting.
Episode 119 had worse directing than Episode 115, Shantsa elimination for example, it looked rushed.
The U3 episodes have potential in being good and one of them is a Toshio episode.
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perucho1990 wrote:I wish they keep the guy who directed episode 118, and fire everyone else, I wish they got directors from Gintama or JJBA, who can make episodes with average animation look interesting
The animation wasn't bad, it was just that the pacing was super rushed, too much stuff to put in what, 18 minutes? altough, to be honest it was for the best, I didn't want to see more episodes wasted in an universe that had nothing worthy to offer
Well that kinda sucked, but it wasn't unexpected. After such a strong string of episodes, we had to have some downtime. I liked the storyboard...? Direction wasn't great, though.
Shame to see the likes of Kenji Miuma and Atsushi Nikaido on an episode of such poor quality. They can do so much better.
Next week should be a nice return to form, and as I think everyone hoped and predicted, Ken Otsuka will be popping up to animate some mechs (his speciality)!
I have to agree. This episode was a downgrade compared the last three to four episodes. I hope the next few are great before the Takahashi episode.
Majinwarman So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
4 Animation Supervisors, Key Animators like Kenji Miuma and Atsushi Nikaido and nothing memorable?! Bruh...
Piccolo's mouth beam was so badly done. It felt weird because it didn't come out from inside his mouth and then when they zoomed out it looked terrible. But besides that nothing bothered me, animation/art wise.
My biggest problem with this episode is the fast pacing. U4 secret weapons and Shantsa eliminated in the same episode felt terribly rushed, which is ironic considering how long this Tournament has been...
Anyway, Shimanuki - Karasawa - Takahashi. It's like a ladder to quality because it will only get better from here.
Also, Otsuka Ken next week! About time to see him doing something with U3 mechas.
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perucho1990 wrote:I wish they keep the guy who directed episode 118, and fire everyone else, I wish they got directors from Gintama or JJBA, who can make episodes with average animation look interesting
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
There was nothing bad in this episode, it was just alright, definitely weaker than the last 3 becuase it had no highlight or some quality cut, it was just serviceable. The art still looked decent and consistent for the most part.
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With the time they have left it really can't go more than 7 unless they start doing seconds per episode which would run well past March. I feel like having Tomioka write the whole of the climax would do wonders to keep it tonally consistent.
