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[IntoTheFire]

So it looks like Universe 4 is plotting to take out U7 before the fight begins by assassinating Frieza.....and they are going to trick Universe 9 into doing the dirty work for them.

This is kind of a win win situation for the U4's. Should they kill Frieza U7 is disqualified before hand but U9 has yet to form a full team or has barely done so. They cannot afford to lose any fighters. This scheme of U4's has insured that 1 or 2 universes will likely be disqualified before the tournament even starts.

Also I will not had the U4 guy yet as we have yet to be shown that he is a fighter.

That's a real God of Destruction for ya. Trying to win against two Universes before the match even starts. Not to mention spying on the competition. Considering they are one of the weakest it makes sense this is the way they will try to win.

[Lord Frieza]

So it looks like Universe 4 is plotting to take out U7 before the fight begins by assassinating Frieza.....and they are going to trick Universe 9 into doing the dirty work for them.

This is kind of a win win situation for the U4's. Should they kill Frieza U7 is disqualified before hand but U9 has yet to form a full team or has barely done so. They cannot afford to lose any fighters. This scheme of U4's has insured that 1 or 2 universes will likely be disqualified before the tournament even starts.

Also I will not had the U4 guy yet as we have yet to be shown that he is a fighter.

That's a real God of Destruction for ya. Trying to win against two Universes before the match even starts. Not to mention spying on the competition. Considering they are one of the weakest it makes sense this is the way they will try to win.

I'v also thought of another nasty tick they could pull. If Quitela leaks the info on Frieza to the other universes, especially U11, Goku and U7 are going to sink even lower in their collective opinion and get the Pride Troopers triggered.

[Booze Sama]

So it looks like Universe 4 is plotting to take out U7 before the fight begins by assassinating Frieza.....and they are going to trick Universe 9 into doing the dirty work for them.

This is kind of a win win situation for the U4's. Should they kill Frieza U7 is disqualified before hand but U9 has yet to form a full team or has barely done so. They cannot afford to lose any fighters. This scheme of U4's has insured that 1 or 2 universes will likely be disqualified before the tournament even starts.

Also I will not had the U4 guy yet as we have yet to be shown that he is a fighter.

That's a real God of Destruction for ya. Trying to win against two Universes before the match even starts. Not to mention spying on the competition. Considering they are one of the weakest it makes sense this is the way they will try to win.

I'v also thought of another nasty tick they could pull. If Quitela leaks the info on Frieza to the other universes, especially U11, Goku and U7 are going to sink even lower in their collective opinion and get the Pride Troopers triggered.

Screw the Pride Troopers. They could all be weak except for 2 or maybe 3 of them who are exceptionally powerful. U7 will find a way to win

[Lord Frieza]

That's a real God of Destruction for ya. Trying to win against two Universes before the match even starts. Not to mention spying on the competition. Considering they are one of the weakest it makes sense this is the way they will try to win.

I'v also thought of another nasty tick they could pull. If Quitela leaks the info on Frieza to the other universes, especially U11, Goku and U7 are going to sink even lower in their collective opinion and get the Pride Troopers triggered.

Screw the Pride Troopers. They could all be weak except for 2 or maybe 3 of them who are exceptionally powerful. U7 will find a way to win

Really? Becuase last I checked U7 have not exactly had a lot of success in Super. They could not beat Beerus, they only beat Frieza with help and Zamasu insured that Trunks's future is gone for good.

Now they have got no back up from the gods, are at the risk of being mobed by 6 of the other universe and their is a guy in that group stronger then a God of Destruction stronger then Beerus. Getting Frieza on the team was more then needed because their is a very real chance Piccolo, #17 and Gohan would not be able to hold the line while Vegeta and Goku are preoccupied with the big guys.

They dont all have to beaten to lose. Goku would be the last one standing but if his enemies have more team members on the platform he'd lose even if he were stronger.

[Booze Sama]

I'v also thought of another nasty tick they could pull. If Quitela leaks the info on Frieza to the other universes, especially U11, Goku and U7 are going to sink even lower in their collective opinion and get the Pride Troopers triggered.

Screw the Pride Troopers. They could all be weak except for 2 or maybe 3 of them who are exceptionally powerful. U7 will find a way to win

Really? Becuase last I checked U7 have not exactly had a lot of success in Super. They could not beat Beerus, they only beat Frieza with help and Zamasu insured that Trunks's future is gone for good.

Now they have got no back up from the gods, are at the risk of being mobed by 6 of the other universe and their is a guy in that group stronger then a God of Destruction stronger then Beerus. Getting Frieza on the team was more then needed because their is a very real chance Piccolo, #17 and Gohan would not be able to hold the line while Vegeta and Goku are preoccupied with the big guys.

They dont all have to beaten to lose. Goku would be the last one standing but if his enemies have more team members on the platform he'd lose even if he were stronger.

No confirmation of that "strong mortal" being from U11 or Pride Troopers. Both Toppo and the rest have been dealt with. Its just Jiren they have to worry about but Goku will outdo him.

[Lord Frieza]

Screw the Pride Troopers. They could all be weak except for 2 or maybe 3 of them who are exceptionally powerful. U7 will find a way to win

Really? Becuase last I checked U7 have not exactly had a lot of success in Super. They could not beat Beerus, they only beat Frieza with help and Zamasu insured that Trunks's future is gone for good.

Now they have got no back up from the gods, are at the risk of being mobed by 6 of the other universe and their is a guy in that group stronger then a God of Destruction stronger then Beerus. Getting Frieza on the team was more then needed because their is a very real chance Piccolo, #17 and Gohan would not be able to hold the line while Vegeta and Goku are preoccupied with the big guys.

They dont all have to beaten to lose. Goku would be the last one standing but if his enemies have more team members on the platform he'd lose even if he were stronger.

No confirmation of that "strong mortal" being from U11 or Pride Troopers. Both Toppo and the rest have been dealt with. Its just Jiren they have to worry about but Goku will outdo him.

You don't know that. Toppo Jiren and the brothers are the only confirmed powers. Each of the universe may have a warrior as powerful as giant Bergamo or more so. This not Frieza's army of weaklings, these are the universes best.

[Booze Sama]

Really? Becuase last I checked U7 have not exactly had a lot of success in Super. They could not beat Beerus, they only beat Frieza with help and Zamasu insured that Trunks's future is gone for good.

Now they have got no back up from the gods, are at the risk of being mobed by 6 of the other universe and their is a guy in that group stronger then a God of Destruction stronger then Beerus. Getting Frieza on the team was more then needed because their is a very real chance Piccolo, #17 and Gohan would not be able to hold the line while Vegeta and Goku are preoccupied with the big guys.

They dont all have to beaten to lose. Goku would be the last one standing but if his enemies have more team members on the platform he'd lose even if he were stronger.

No confirmation of that "strong mortal" being from U11 or Pride Troopers. Both Toppo and the rest have been dealt with. Its just Jiren they have to worry about but Goku will outdo him.

You don't know that. Toppo Jiren and the brothers are the only confirmed powers. Each of the universe may have a warrior as powerful as giant Bergamo or more so. This not Frieza's army of weaklings, these are the universes best.

Everything is pretty much highlighting the fact that Jiren will be the main threat here. Toppo, Dyspo and Kahseral will not be able to beat Vegeta, Freeza and 17/Gohan/Piccolo lol

[julianix]

Really? Becuase last I checked U7 have not exactly had a lot of success in Super. They could not beat Beerus, they only beat Frieza with help and Zamasu insured that Trunks's future is gone for good.

Now they have got no back up from the gods, are at the risk of being mobed by 6 of the other universe and their is a guy in that group stronger then a God of Destruction stronger then Beerus. Getting Frieza on the team was more then needed because their is a very real chance Piccolo, #17 and Gohan would not be able to hold the line while Vegeta and Goku are preoccupied with the big guys.

They dont all have to beaten to lose. Goku would be the last one standing but if his enemies have more team members on the platform he'd lose even if he were stronger.

No confirmation of that "strong mortal" being from U11 or Pride Troopers. Both Toppo and the rest have been dealt with. Its just Jiren they have to worry about but Goku will outdo him.

You don't know that. Toppo Jiren and the brothers are the only confirmed powers. Each of the universe may have a warrior as powerful as giant Bergamo or more so. This not Frieza's army of weaklings, these are the universes best.

They already teased Jiren as being stronger than Toppo. He might be the guy they're talking about we don't know that for sure. It could be another universe. By the way besides Jiren Jordan and Toppo the other pride troopers look like a lower level tier to me. The bunny and commander dude look like they would get spanked by Basil at the same time. They basically have 2 strong warriors up to date...where as u7 has 5 powerhouses with wild card.

[Lord Frieza]

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Let me point something out here yes Jiren and Toppo are the main threat, so far, but there are not the only one and far from the most dangerous.

Jiren and Toppo are powerful enough to hold up Goku and Vegeta alone. They WOULD crush Gohan and the rest if they got to them. But they are 2 of a very large bunch mad up of the 8 universes strongest. There will be guys their as powerful as Gohan and #17 if not stronger. You are assuming that just because Dispo is not on pare with Toppo that he is not a major threat to the rest of the team, especially its weaker members. This is not all about GOKU, if all his team get beaten, he WILL LOSE when times up. For every team member that goes down, each universe takes another step towards defeat and U7 is no exception to that rule.

Their is no single threat here, yes Jiren is the biggest fish but over fixation on him could lead to the team suffering.

Edit to add to that you have kami knows what weapons the U3 lot are bringing, U4 likely know more dirty tricks the a world class poker player and while not bright, the U10 meat heads will likely make up for it in raw power.

Everything is pretty much highlighting the fact that Jiren will be the main threat here. Toppo, Dyspo and Kahseral will not be able to beat Vegeta, Freeza and 17/Gohan/Piccolo lol

Also evidence for that please? Toppo was ready to brawl with KK SSB Goku, He'll kick Gohan or #17's asses solo. And since Toppo would turn them into paste by himself and since we have yet to see Dyspo and Kahseral fight anyone who's power we have an idea of...who says they are not as powerful as Gohan or #17?

[Booze Sama]

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Let me point something out here yes Jiren and Toppo are the main threat, so far, but there are not the only one and far from the most dangerous.

Jiren and Toppo are powerful enough to hold up Goku and Vegeta alone. They WOULD crush Gohan and the rest if they got to them. But they are 2 of a very large bunch mad up of the 8 universes strongest. There will be guys their as powerful as Gohan and #17 if not stronger. You are assuming that just because Dispo is not on pare with Toppo that he is not a major threat to the rest of the team, especially its weaker members. This is not all about GOKU, if all his team get beaten, he WILL LOSE when times up. For every team member that goes down, each universe takes another step towards defeat and U7 is no exception to that rule.

Their is no single threat here, yes Jiren is the biggest fish but over fixation on him could lead to the team suffering.

Edit to add to that you have kami knows what weapons the U3 lot are bringing, U4 likely know more dirty tricks the a world class poker player and while not bright, the U10 meat heads will likely make up for it in raw power.

Everything is pretty much highlighting the fact that Jiren will be the main threat here. Toppo, Dyspo and Kahseral will not be able to beat Vegeta, Freeza and 17/Gohan/Piccolo lol

Also evidence for that please? Toppo was ready to brawl with KK SSB Goku, He'll kick Gohan or #17's asses solo. And since Toppo would turn them into paste by himself and since we have yet to see Dyspo and Kahseral fight anyone who's power we have an idea of...who says they are not as powerful as Gohan or #17?

What planet are you living on lol?

Lets check the facts shall we?

U11 - They have Jiren, as being the strongest. Toppo was about to be toast if not for Daishinkan. The rest of the team players won't be SSB level.

U10 - Honestly, going by the showing they aren't going to have anybody that will be able to go toe-to-toe with SSB.

U9 - Are pretty much a done deal. They're now resorting to teaming up with U4 to eliminate U7 from the tournament! There top three fighters were smoked in the preliminaries.

U6 - More of a threat than the last tournament we had with them, as they now have Saiyans that can transform to new heights at incredibly fast rates. Still, for some reason I feel they will not be at our heels in the ToP, and will actually team up

U4 - Resorting to spies and trying to take out a key member for U7, so they're already grasping at straws. If they had any major powerhouses, why try to take out opposing teams before the match?

U3 - Will be the most tricky universe to ring-out IMO but won't be more of a threat than U11.

U2 - No fairies are going to be able to match a full powered SSB. Still, they're yet to reveal some of their roster

U7 are in the best position to win with Freeza, SSB Goku & Vegeta, Mystiq Gohan, 17. That's five absolute power houses upto SSB levels.

[Lord Frieza]

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Let me point something out here yes Jiren and Toppo are the main threat, so far, but there are not the only one and far from the most dangerous.

Jiren and Toppo are powerful enough to hold up Goku and Vegeta alone. They WOULD crush Gohan and the rest if they got to them. But they are 2 of a very large bunch mad up of the 8 universes strongest. There will be guys their as powerful as Gohan and #17 if not stronger. You are assuming that just because Dispo is not on pare with Toppo that he is not a major threat to the rest of the team, especially its weaker members. This is not all about GOKU, if all his team get beaten, he WILL LOSE when times up. For every team member that goes down, each universe takes another step towards defeat and U7 is no exception to that rule.

Their is no single threat here, yes Jiren is the biggest fish but over fixation on him could lead to the team suffering.

Edit to add to that you have kami knows what weapons the U3 lot are bringing, U4 likely know more dirty tricks the a world class poker player and while not bright, the U10 meat heads will likely make up for it in raw power.

Everything is pretty much highlighting the fact that Jiren will be the main threat here. Toppo, Dyspo and Kahseral will not be able to beat Vegeta, Freeza and 17/Gohan/Piccolo lol

Also evidence for that please? Toppo was ready to brawl with KK SSB Goku, He'll kick Gohan or #17's asses solo. And since Toppo would turn them into paste by himself and since we have yet to see Dyspo and Kahseral fight anyone who's power we have an idea of...who says they are not as powerful as Gohan or #17?

What planet are you living on lol?

Lets check the facts shall we?

U11 - They have Jiren, as being the strongest. Toppo was about to be toast if not for Daishinkan. The rest of the team players won't be SSB level.

U10 - Honestly, going by the showing they aren't going to have anybody that will be able to go toe-to-toe with SSB.

U9 - Are pretty much a done deal. They're now resorting to teaming up with U4 to eliminate U7 from the tournament! There top three fighters were smoked in the preliminaries.

U6 - More of a threat than the last tournament we had with them, as they now have Saiyans that can transform to new heights at incredibly fast rates. Still, for some reason I feel they will not be at our heels in the ToP, and will actually team up

U4 - Resorting to spies and trying to take out a key member for U7, so they're already grasping at straws. If they had any major powerhouses, why try to take out opposing teams before the match?

U3 - Will be the most tricky universe to ring-out IMO but won't be more of a threat than U11.

U2 - No fairies are going to be able to match a full powered SSB. Still, they're yet to reveal some of their roster

U7 are in the best position to win with Freeza, SSB Goku & Vegeta, Mystiq Gohan, 17. That's five absolute power houses upto SSB levels.

I belive his words words were "One of you could die" That mean both, Toppo or Goku. Full power Toppo can battle against Goku at that level while the half-saiyan got one hit KOed. So Toppo > Gohan.

And what planet are you living or are did you forget that a character as lowly as Krillian can push back against Goku in this arc. So get that power scaling out of your head.

[Booze Sama]

Let me point something out here yes Jiren and Toppo are the main threat, so far, but there are not the only one and far from the most dangerous.

Jiren and Toppo are powerful enough to hold up Goku and Vegeta alone. They WOULD crush Gohan and the rest if they got to them. But they are 2 of a very large bunch mad up of the 8 universes strongest. There will be guys their as powerful as Gohan and #17 if not stronger. You are assuming that just because Dispo is not on pare with Toppo that he is not a major threat to the rest of the team, especially its weaker members. This is not all about GOKU, if all his team get beaten, he WILL LOSE when times up. For every team member that goes down, each universe takes another step towards defeat and U7 is no exception to that rule.

Their is no single threat here, yes Jiren is the biggest fish but over fixation on him could lead to the team suffering.

Edit to add to that you have kami knows what weapons the U3 lot are bringing, U4 likely know more dirty tricks the a world class poker player and while not bright, the U10 meat heads will likely make up for it in raw power.



Also evidence for that please? Toppo was ready to brawl with KK SSB Goku, He'll kick Gohan or #17's asses solo. And since Toppo would turn them into paste by himself and since we have yet to see Dyspo and Kahseral fight anyone who's power we have an idea of...who says they are not as powerful as Gohan or #17?

What planet are you living on lol?

Lets check the facts shall we?

U11 - They have Jiren, as being the strongest. Toppo was about to be toast if not for Daishinkan. The rest of the team players won't be SSB level.

U10 - Honestly, going by the showing they aren't going to have anybody that will be able to go toe-to-toe with SSB.

U9 - Are pretty much a done deal. They're now resorting to teaming up with U4 to eliminate U7 from the tournament! There top three fighters were smoked in the preliminaries.

U6 - More of a threat than the last tournament we had with them, as they now have Saiyans that can transform to new heights at incredibly fast rates. Still, for some reason I feel they will not be at our heels in the ToP, and will actually team up

U4 - Resorting to spies and trying to take out a key member for U7, so they're already grasping at straws. If they had any major powerhouses, why try to take out opposing teams before the match?

U3 - Will be the most tricky universe to ring-out IMO but won't be more of a threat than U11.

U2 - No fairies are going to be able to match a full powered SSB. Still, they're yet to reveal some of their roster

U7 are in the best position to win with Freeza, SSB Goku & Vegeta, Mystiq Gohan, 17. That's five absolute power houses upto SSB levels.

I belive his words words were "One of you could die" That mean both, Toppo or Goku. Full power Toppo can battle against Goku at that level while the half-saiyan got one hit KOed. So Toppo > Gohan.

And what planet are you living or are did you forget that a character as lowly as Krillian can push back against Goku in this arc. So get that power scaling out of your head.

Toppo was uncertain if he could beat Goku and was on the verge of being smashed.

Goku has him worried sick about the Tournament of Power and thus requires Jiren's help. Goku was excited to know there was someone like Toppo out there.

If Toppo is scared stiff, then he's going to fill his pants when Vegeta and Freeza show up.

Get a hold of yourself please - You have not countered anything I said about the other universes. Universe 7 IS in the best position right now, next to U11.

Everybody knows Goku was holding back against Krillin

[Lord Frieza]

Toppo was uncertain if he could beat Goku and was on the verge of being smashed.

Goku has him worried sick about the Tournament of Power and thus requires Jiren's help. Goku was excited to know there was someone like Toppo out there.

If Toppo is scared stiff, then he's going to fill his pants when Vegeta and Freeza show up.

Get a hold of yourself please - You have not countered anything I said about the other universes. Universe 7 IS in the best position right now, next to U11.

Everybody knows Goku was holding back against Krillin

Booze, your derogatory manner is starting to annoy me. Lets keep this civil or I'm ending this talk.

I dont need to counter anything because you have nothing, you makeing the same mistake many stupid fighters do when they look at others. You assume and underestimate. My entire viewpoint is based on one very simple bit of logic.

Anything can hurt you if you let it. People who act silly have a small fall can get a brain hemorrhage that can kill them and a seemingly weak foe can drop you hard if you let your guard down.

You are making baseless assumptions about these universes, you have seen none of them in action. My statements are based on a health respect for any warrior regardless of their power.

Your view point is the view point of someone who gets taken out by a laser gun in the back.



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No fear there and his concuren is clearly for the safety of his universes and his uncertainty of being able to beat Goku. Note "uncertain" not "I cannot ever beat Goku ever". Also Goku has NEVER once said "I can beat Toppo".


and as for this - "Everybody knows Goku was holding back against Krillin ". No they dont since it is never stated in the anime, its head cannon that helps power level loves sleep at night.

[Booze Sama]

Booze, your derogatory manner is starting to annoy me. Lets keep this civil or I'm ending this talk.

Did I upset you? I don't see any name-calling or personal attacks anywhere, if this kind of thing shakes you up, it's probably a good idea to do just that LF.

I dont need to counter anything because you have nothing,

I gave you the facts pertaining to the collective universes and their current situation(s), with 3 out of 7 of those being in dire situations (U4, U9, U10) or resorting to trickery to win and not through combat. You have yet to counter anything I said in regards to those facts.

you makeing the same mistake many stupid fighters do when they look at others. You assume and underestimate.

I'm not assuming or underestimating anything, I'm simply going by the facts as they're shown in the anime.

Why are U4 resorting to using spies and trying to sabotage U7? If they were confident with winning the tournament, would they need to use trickery to disqualify another universes?

Why has it been such a hard task for U9 to scout fighters stronger than the Trio De Danger who were already defeated in the exhibition match? And why do they feel the need to resort to sabotaging U7?

I'll be really shocked if U10 can pull something off, but honestly they're on par with U9 at this post.

Why was U11's Toppo extremely concerned about Goku after the exhibition match and having daydreams about him if he was confident U11 could win? After Jiren, will they have anyone else upto par with a Super Saiyan Blue or even on par with Freeza or Gohan or 17? Dyspo? Kahseral?..............Hmm.


So that leaves us with U2, U3 and U6 and we've already climbed that mountain with U6. We know what there strengths and weaknesses will be and we know they have newbie Super Saiyans. Pretty cool. But will they match up to expert Super Saiyans? I doubt it. They have three other new characters yet to be revealed so anything is possible.

Now let look at OUR team shall we?

We have plot armour Goku, who probably is going to have another transformation or some major power up, that goes for Vegeta and Gohan. Freeza will likely get stronger somehow just because, then there's 17 who is able to go toe-to-toe with SSB Goku. This is really bad news for most of the universes - not just on a strength level, but on ALL levels.

Anything can hurt you if you let it. People who act silly have a small fall can get a brain hemorrhage that can kill them and a seemingly weak foe can drop you hard if you let your guard down.

This is irrelevant and a grasp at straws. Where did I say this couldn't happen? Ofcourse there are going to be tricksters and characters who can outmaneuver U7 without being more powerful than them. If not, then the tournament would be boring and the whole "outring" rule wouldn't make sense.

You are making baseless assumptions about these universes, you have seen none of them in action.

Covered this. Go by the ACTUAL FACTS as to what we've been shown so far.

No fear there and his concuren is clearly for the safety of his universes and his uncertainty of being able to beat Goku. Note "uncertain" not "I cannot ever beat Goku ever". Also Goku has NEVER once said "I can beat Toppo".

He CLEARLY was having bad daydreams of Goku and his last fight with him, that Kahseral had to ask him what was up. Yes he was concerned about his universe being erased by not being able to rise up to Goku, who he believes is evil.

No they dont since it is never stated in the anime, its head cannon that helps power level loves sleep at night.

Oh so Krillin can take on 17 now aswell I suppose? Krillin would be lucky to beat Basil. Goku held back, thats not up for discussion.

[Lord Frieza]

Did I upset you? I don't see any name-calling or personal attacks anywhere, if this kind of thing shakes you up, it's probably a good idea to do just that LF.

Ok this it what I'm talking about, it's not name calling or personal attacks. It's talking down to me and mocking me. This makes you look like an asshole. If your not doing it on perpose then you need to think about how you speak to others. But if your doing it inteionally then I can only assume it's a cheap ploy to make people give up talking to you out of annoyance so you get your own way. Either way I'm going to egnor that attitude of your for the sake of the talk.

Also to clarify....

Annoyed - slightly angry; irritated

Upset - make (someone) unhappy, disappointed, or worried.

I gave you the facts pertaining to the collective universes and their current situation(s), with 3 out of 7 of those being in dire situations (U4, U9, U10) or resorting to trickery to win and not through combat. You have yet to counter anything I said in regards to those facts.

Ok so let's get started.......

Why are U4 resorting to using spies and trying to sabotage U7? If they were confident with winning the tournament, would they need to use trickery to disqualify another universes?

Spying is one of the oldest means by which one gains an advantage of others. It's been used as a tactic in war and battle through human history, reguardless of power. Also they are the Conspiracy universe, it's in their nature. They could be ranked 1 and they would still do it. The fact none of the other universes have done this is a sign that they are stupid, overconfident or struggling for fighters. Also they only took action after they heard of Frieza. If they have been spying on U7 this whole time yet taken no action befor, then they must feel pretty confident that their plans and tricks can deal with U7. Not only that but this situation vindicats my stamens about them using Frieza's reputation as a weapon. The do not know his power but have gathered a bit of intell if they know some of his background that the group didn't talk about. Frieza's reputation is what has set them in motion and will allow them to set U9 on U7.

Why has it been such a hard task for U9 to scout fighters stronger than the Trio De Danger who were already defeated in the exhibition match? And why do they feel the need to resort to sabotaging U7?

As a whole no, they have not got a chance. But that dose not make Burgamo any less of a threat to the team as a whole. At full power none save Goku and maybe Vegeta can hold back his attack. That could result a lot of team 7 getting knocked out if he attacks without interference.

[/quote]I'll be really shocked if U10 can pull something off, but honestly they're on par with U9 at this post.[/quote]

No because we have yet to see any of them in action. Until then they should be classed as "unknown". If it's because of how they look and act well did that make Buu any less dangerous?

u10 stuff from befor.

Agreed they will be tough to knock out but they could have weapons that can effect a SSB. Tear Gas was proven to be enough to effect SSR Black. That and other weapons like it would leave Goku open to ring out.

Why was U11's Toppo extremely concerned about Goku after the exhibition match and having daydreams about him if he was confident U11 could win? After Jiren, will they have anyone else upto par with a Super Saiyan Blue or even on par with Freeza or Gohan or 17? Dyspo? Kahseral?..............Hmm.

Toppo dose see Goku a a threat this is true. You can interpret that any way you like so we are gong to skip that. Again we don't know how strong these guys are and they don't have to be equal with Goku to beat him because they are a team. This ties into my point about Krillin. Base Goku was almost ringed out by Krillin's skill and that moment of pushing back Goku's attack also matters. If someone stronger then Krillin can pull of a similar tactic agains SSB, Goku is left wide open for one of their team mates to get him. The same with attack blocking. Those few seconds are ones were Goku's attention is on his target leaving him open again or risk wasteing power by diverting his attention to another foe and not finishing his attack.

This my main point. While pound for pound the other teams will not be equal to the heroes, they are strong enough that as a team they are a threat to the big players. If a team can pull of the right moves they can ring out someone like Goku.

And if each team has at least 1 fighter who can match up to the likes of at least Gohan and #17 then the threat to the team goes up even more.

In fact Goku, Vegeta, Frieza and 17 are most at risk of such teamwork because they prefer to fight solo. As long as the fighters have enough power inindiviually and a good stratagem, they can beat U7's best if they are court alone with no back up. Gohan also still has Goku's habbit of getting letting his guard down, so that's another chink in their armour. Frieza could also burn out his Golden form leaving him vulnerable.

Dose that make sense?

[Freeza9000]

It seems like Freeza might betray U7 and join the U4 team. That backstabber............

[Lord Frieza]

It seems like Freeza might betray U7 and join the U4 team. That backstabber............

I dont think so, the episode title says assassins. Frieza is not going to join someone trying to take his life. I also dont think U4 will actually take physical participation in the act, they will just wined up U9 and let them do the job.

[Kishido]

Universe 6 because of Caulifla

[Lord Frieza]

Universe 6 because of Caulifla

I would never have take you for a U6 fan .

[Lord Frieza]

It seems like Freeza might betray U7 and join the U4 team. That backstabber............

I just finished catching up with the news...sorry....

Anyway goodness Quitela is a sneaky rat. He's not only plotting the downfall of U7 and/or U9 but also plans to steal one of U7's best fighters and last hope.....thats bloody brilliant.

Also something we talked about a while back might be true, although I wont add it to the rules until we get full confirmation. Turns out that if you fall of the edge of the ring, the void will erase you right there.