So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
Maybe Tenshinhan just sucks and all his fans should get a new favorite character?
Or just spend all that passion creating fan comics or fan animations.
Flip a coin!
Right now there isn't anything solid being contributed to discussion by just repeating the facts and how angry they make one. Turn that passion into art, it's what Japanese fans do with their elaborate fan parodies.
Or just spend all that passion creating fan comics or fan animations.
Flip a coin!
Right now there isn't anything solid being contributed to discussion by just repeating the facts and how angry they make one. Turn that passion into art, it's what Japanese fans do with their elaborate fan parodies.
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
The difference is Yamcha can still be used for comedy, Tien's personality doesn't really fit well for anything outside of fighting. Likely why he never got any filler episodes beforehand and why his episode focused more on Roshi's perverted antics than Tien himself.GigaDrill wrote:At least he's still relevant
Tien isn't that far away from being Yamcha'd
I at least expect Yamcha to continue to make appearances throughout Super even if he doesn't fight. Tien might as well fade away into obscurity again after the tournament.
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
If though Tien didn't get a hit in he took the attacks from Gohan without efencing and was able to go again straight away so Tien can take some serious damage.
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Weaker than Roshi though. Seriously. Where DID that come from?Doctor. wrote:Maybe people will realize now that he was never as strong as fans like to pretend he is.
139 to potentially low millions now without even a hint of him un-retiring from training? Did he spam the gravity chamber or some $$it?
And that. Tien took damage from Gohan. Can't say Roshi wouldn't be knocked out cold from Gohan's punch there.namekiansaiyan wrote:If though Tien didn't get a hit in he took the attacks from Gohan without efencing and was able to go again straight away so Tien can take some serious damage.
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Gokus god power absorbed grass, that shit's apparently really potent..Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Weaker than Roshi though. Seriously. Where DID that come from?Doctor. wrote:Maybe people will realize now that he was never as strong as fans like to pretend he is.
139 to potentially low millions now without even a hint of him un-retiring from training? Did he spam the gravity chamber or some $$it?
Besides, goku mentioned roshi was training constantly in secret, together with the tricks up his sleeve, no wonder tien got wreaked
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
He's also using his Buff form, which he never used for actual combat prior to Resurrection F has he? He could've been training that form specifically for all these years.Ki Breaker wrote: Gokus god power absorbed grass, that shit's apparently really potent..
Besides, goku mentioned roshi was training constantly in secret, together with the tricks up his sleeve, no wonder tien got wreaked
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My understanding also. And this new episode pretty much states that Tenshinhan is stronger than Roshi, otherwise Goku would tag with him instead of Ten.UpFromTheSkies wrote:Tenshinhan isn't necessarily weaker than Roshi. He could have underestimated him and been caught off guard, and Roshi also had a power boost from the magic.
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I thought the reason Tenshinhan was part of the tag team match was because Gohan requested it, he has no idea Roshi became stronger than Ten.Roronoa-pt wrote:
My understanding also. And this new episode pretty much states that Tenshinhan is stronger than Roshi, otherwise Goku would tag with him instead of Ten.
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
Gohan requesting Tenshinhan pretty much states that he's stronger than Roshi & Chaozu, IMO. Chaozu & Roshi were ignored for a reason.perucho1990 wrote:I thought the reason Tenshinhan was part of the tag team match was because Gohan requested it, he has no idea Roshi became stronger than Ten.Roronoa-pt wrote:
My understanding also. And this new episode pretty much states that Tenshinhan is stronger than Roshi, otherwise Goku would tag with him instead of Ten.
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Gohan doesnt know that Roshi was training in secret, and he never witnessed his strength like Goku and Tenshinhan did..
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
Thats silly. Last epsode we saw Roshi fight in a recruitment episode and that is why Tien got this match. Nothing more or less.Roronoa-pt wrote:Gohan requesting Tenshinhan pretty much states that he's stronger than Roshi & Chaozu, IMO. Chaozu & Roshi were ignored for a reason.perucho1990 wrote:I thought the reason Tenshinhan was part of the tag team match was because Gohan requested it, he has no idea Roshi became stronger than Ten.Roronoa-pt wrote:
My understanding also. And this new episode pretty much states that Tenshinhan is stronger than Roshi, otherwise Goku would tag with him instead of Ten.
Of course Chaozu was ignored...when has Chaozu NOT been ignored?
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
At this point I'm thinking Chiatozu would be a better option than Tenshinhan seeing how he was actually able to restrain Base Goku when he wanted to fight against "Monaka". He'd be a great addition to the team and can cooperate with others, maybe he can even share a few words with Goku for a start.
Compare that to Tenshinhan who didn't even get the chance to use his Kikoho and got knocked out in one-hit. He's shitty at teamwork and even his Kikoho can only do so much.
Compare that to Tenshinhan who didn't even get the chance to use his Kikoho and got knocked out in one-hit. He's shitty at teamwork and even his Kikoho can only do so much.
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
He didn't think much of Krillin either and didn't want to recruit him. How did that work out for Gohan?Roronoa-pt wrote:
Gohan requesting Tenshinhan pretty much states that he's stronger than Roshi & Chaozu, IMO. Chaozu & Roshi were ignored for a reason.
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
Kind of messed up how quick we are to lambaste characters for looking bad in situations outside of their control, yet also so quick to scream BS when it's our favorite character eating shit. Tien isn't that popular, so maybe toei can get away with this without people breaking their doors down and demanding retribution. Compare Yamcha in Z to Yamcha in Super. People crap on Yamcha in Z because THEY want to. People at Toei want you to crap on Yamacha in super. You can tell by how they write him. In Z there was usually a reason for this type of beat down. In super, it's just Toei cracking the whip.
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
To be fair, even Toriyama doesn't give two shits about Yamcha. Hell, he left him out completely in Resurrection F and gave the most embarrassing excuse for his absence. If there was any time for Yamcha's character to shine it would have been during that movie, given the context of the plot. But Toriyama made it abundantly clear who among the supporting cast he actually gives a damn about: Piccolo, Krillin, Tien and Roshi. The roster of the team Universe 7 epitomizes this. Right down to Majin Boo being sidelined again.Beyond wrote:Kind of messed up how quick we are to lambaste characters for looking bad in situations outside of their control, yet also so quick to scream BS when it's our favorite character eating shit. Tien isn't that popular, so maybe toei can get away with this without people breaking their doors down and demanding retribution. Compare Yamcha in Z to Yamcha in Super. People crap on Yamcha in Z because THEY want to. People at Toei want you to crap on Yamacha in super. You can tell by how they write him. In Z there was usually a reason for this type of beat down. In super, it's just Toei cracking the whip.
At this stage, Yamcha is a character that exists to be just a joke.
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
I'm Ten's fan. Toei does not care about him, but Tori does, enough to include him here and there and fighting too, so he's not getting out of the team. He is not gonna last long, but he is there to start. It's true the treatment he has had in this two episodes hasn't made me happy, so I expect he kicks out at least one or two opponents before being out himself in the tournament.
I'm Gohan's fan too, but I celebrated his come back when he fought Lavenda. What they did to him in the RoF arc was awful, also when he met Trunks again after so many years. I feel he is back too and I'm happy for that, I didn't expect less than ultimate for him and Goku made him the captain. But, one thing, Goku makes his son the captain, but yet he decides who comes to the team, I'm referring to Freeza. Well, Goku, that's not how it works.
At least Ten has the Kikoho, looking the effect it had in Cell, looks like a good technique for this tournament, it can push a group of enemies out, even stronger than him. It's definitely better than the Kiezan, as killing is forbidden. Oh, Krilin has the Tayoken x100, how original, who's is that technique? I wonder who Toei loves more. Anyway, it's the one technique that didn't need an improvement, it's meant to blind the enemy for a while and then attack or escape and everyone can use it. I bet the idea of improving it came from Toei writers. The one he used against the Saibamans, it was used again, that's a good one for this tournament. I like Krilin too, don't get me wrong.
I'm Gohan's fan too, but I celebrated his come back when he fought Lavenda. What they did to him in the RoF arc was awful, also when he met Trunks again after so many years. I feel he is back too and I'm happy for that, I didn't expect less than ultimate for him and Goku made him the captain. But, one thing, Goku makes his son the captain, but yet he decides who comes to the team, I'm referring to Freeza. Well, Goku, that's not how it works.
At least Ten has the Kikoho, looking the effect it had in Cell, looks like a good technique for this tournament, it can push a group of enemies out, even stronger than him. It's definitely better than the Kiezan, as killing is forbidden. Oh, Krilin has the Tayoken x100, how original, who's is that technique? I wonder who Toei loves more. Anyway, it's the one technique that didn't need an improvement, it's meant to blind the enemy for a while and then attack or escape and everyone can use it. I bet the idea of improving it came from Toei writers. The one he used against the Saibamans, it was used again, that's a good one for this tournament. I like Krilin too, don't get me wrong.
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
Tenshinhan was never that strong so why complaining about??
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My friends and I do that sorta, though the only one of us who can actually draw in Toriyama style is a lazy bum, so it's mostly just fan FICTION right now. (Not posted on the internet as of yet)JulieYBM wrote:Maybe Tenshinhan just sucks and all his fans should get a new favorite character?
Or just spend all that passion creating fan comics or fan animations.
Flip a coin!
Right now there isn't anything solid being contributed to discussion by just repeating the facts and how angry they make one. Turn that passion into art, it's what Japanese fans do with their elaborate fan parodies.
Either way though that's kinda a BS excuse. Of course we still want our favorite characters to be treated well in the actual official show. Especially in their own episodes. I mean they inserted some fanservice such as the four witches technique, but he still did nothing helpful in terms of fighting in his own focus episode. People also want power consistency, which we hugely lack.
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Who cares if it's fan fiction? Look at what Otaku accomplish by continually pushing their passion and skill to the point of being able to create high-quality fan works that they can share and consume. Take possession of the characters you love by creating new fan works with them.TekTheNinja wrote:My friends and I do that sorta, though the only one of us who can actually draw in Toriyama style is a lazy bum, so it's mostly just fan FICTION right now. (Not posted on the internet as of yet)JulieYBM wrote:Maybe Tenshinhan just sucks and all his fans should get a new favorite character?
Or just spend all that passion creating fan comics or fan animations.
Flip a coin!
Right now there isn't anything solid being contributed to discussion by just repeating the facts and how angry they make one. Turn that passion into art, it's what Japanese fans do with their elaborate fan parodies.
You aren't the ones making this work and having to navigate the difficulties involved. Things happen and they cannot be changed, but that doesn't mean something positive cannot be contributed in a different forum. It's fine and dandy to want things to be different (I'm nowhere near pleased with the series as a whole), but you need to have the perspective to understand where you fall and what one can realistically accomplish.TekTheNinja wrote:Either way though that's kinda a BS excuse. Of course we still want our favorite characters to be treated well in the actual official show. Especially in their own episodes. I mean they inserted some fanservice such as the four witches technique, but he still did nothing helpful in terms of fighting in his own focus episode. People also want power consistency, which we hugely lack.
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Re: So we gonna ignore the fact Tenshinhan got trashed??
So you're saying we shouldn't complain or voice our opinions on pretty much anything then? I mean it doesn't matter that Toriyama's never gonna read through Kanzenshuu or anything. No one thinks that. Forums are for voicing opinions and that's what will people do. I mean I don't know what you expect, for people to just ignore faults and only give blind praise?JulieYBM wrote: It's fine and dandy to want things to be different (I'm nowhere near pleased with the series as a whole), but you need to have the perspective to understand where you fall and what one can realistically accomplish.