Ultimate Goku?
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Ultimate Goku?
This episode hinted that Elder Kai can awaken Goku's potential, would you like to see that in the future?
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That's probably where we're headed, if we follow the hints in the opening and the way Gohan told Goku he would like to excel his power in his own way in episode 90.
I would be cool with that. I just don't want any more new transformations. I'm still not feeling SSJG, SSJB and SSJR (damn, those are a lot of new transformations in such short period of time).
I would be cool with that. I just don't want any more new transformations. I'm still not feeling SSJG, SSJB and SSJR (damn, those are a lot of new transformations in such short period of time).
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You forgot SSIPMD wrote:That's probably where we're headed, if we follow the hints in the opening and the way Gohan told Goku he would like to excel his power in his own way in episode 90.
I would be cool with that. I just don't want any more new transformations. I'm still not feeling SSJG, SSJB and SSJR (damn, those are a lot of new transformations in such short period of time).
Also, goku might just learn how to ultimate by himself later on
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But that was a cool power boost. Idk, I don't think I can consider SSJ Ikari a different transformation per se. More like a sub-transformation/level-up, right?Ki Breaker wrote: You forgot SSI
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He transformed into it several times, it's not like it was a one time boost, it's being considered as a transformation while not receiving the acknowledgement of one..PMD wrote:But that was a cool power boost. Idk, I don't think I can consider SSJ Ikari a different transformation per se. More like a sub-transformation/level-up, right?Ki Breaker wrote: You forgot SSI
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The opening and ending already imply that Goku's got something that makes him massively stronger in something resembling his Base than anything Blue or KK Blue have done so.
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Wouldn't call it a "hint" considering in Buu saga they said Ro Kaioshin can awaken the potential of anyone. Anyways, no. I wouldn't like to see that. I'm in favor of some characters having unique transformations, Ultimate is meant for Gohan. Also, what would change in Goku's appearance if he went Ultimate? We wouldn't know how to differentiate so it's pointless.Master Xar wrote:This episode hinted that Elder Kai can awaken Goku's potential, would you like to see that in the future?
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I don't like Goku's clown hair, so I'd rather have him transform, to use the full extent of it.
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Clown hair?Desassina wrote:I don't like Goku's clown hair, so I'd rather have him transform, to use the full extent of it.
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Yes, he has a round head on top, and the hair extends to each side. The uneven split makes it cooler though.
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If the OP is anything to go by then the white mist/glow all over his body. I agree tho I'd rather have Goku get a new form exclusively for himself than a similar Ultimate form.Grimlock wrote:Wouldn't call it a "hint" considering in Buu saga they said Ro Kaioshin can awaken the potential of anyone. Anyways, no. I wouldn't like to see that. I'm in favor of some characters having unique transformations, Ultimate is meant for Gohan. Also, what would change in Goku's appearance if he went Ultimate? We wouldn't know how to differentiate so it's pointless.Master Xar wrote:This episode hinted that Elder Kai can awaken Goku's potential, would you like to see that in the future?
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There's a high possibility that Ultimate Goku is going to happen considering how we saw his power up transition from SSJB to his base form that has some sort of red glow to it. The Opening and subsequently this whole arc is about breaking limits and since Elder Kai has the ability to summon one's potential beyond its limits, there's a high chance of Ultimate Goku happening.
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I guess you're right. Didn't think it that way. Anyway, I like SSJ IkariKi Breaker wrote:He transformed into it several times, it's not like it was a one time boost, it's being considered as a transformation while not receiving the acknowledgement of one..PMD wrote:But that was a cool power boost. Idk, I don't think I can consider SSJ Ikari a different transformation per se. More like a sub-transformation/level-up, right?Ki Breaker wrote: You forgot SSI
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How about Goku and Vegeta get their own power up via their own measure instead of everyone doing the same song and dance.
Gohan> ultimate
Goku> kioken from his base form by his own merits. Not ultimate form. Just god ki in base with kioken.
Vegeta> ssb2
Gohan keeps white aura, Goku red and Vegeta blue..
Gohan> ultimate
Goku> kioken from his base form by his own merits. Not ultimate form. Just god ki in base with kioken.
Vegeta> ssb2
Gohan keeps white aura, Goku red and Vegeta blue..
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This '' Ultimate '' state is not something unique and unheard of. It's just Gohan with all his occult power released, this can be done on anyone.
I would not see a problem if that happened, but would it change anything in Goku's power?
If in DBS, the '' Ultimate '' form is being treated as a transformation, so why would Goku choose this form instead of SSB?
If his base power increased, without the need to use that form, then it would be good, because if the base form gets stronger,by using SSB, it would get even stronger
I would not see a problem if that happened, but would it change anything in Goku's power?
If in DBS, the '' Ultimate '' form is being treated as a transformation, so why would Goku choose this form instead of SSB?
If his base power increased, without the need to use that form, then it would be good, because if the base form gets stronger,by using SSB, it would get even stronger
This may just be something to not show the possible new transformation, or it can actually be in the base formFreeza9000 wrote:There's a high possibility that Ultimate Goku is going to happen considering how we saw his power up transition from SSJB to his base form that has some sort of red glow to it. The Opening and subsequently this whole arc is about breaking limits and since Elder Kai has the ability to summon one's potential beyond its limits, there's a high chance of Ultimate Goku happening.
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Nah, Ultimate Goku just doesn't feel right imo, he can keep his transformations, he looks better that way.
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Ultimate Goku would be strange, I think that should remain unique to Gohan right? It's his only claim to fame in Super. Also how would you make his hair? All Gohan got was a bang and Goku has like 4 of those. I don't know I just don't like the thought of it because then there's going to be a plot hole of "why doesn't everyone do this to make them stronger?" Also wouldn't that make him weaker than Gohan if Gohan goes beyond "Mystic, Ultimate"?
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No but what about other characters bar Goku Elder Kai?
Further more... I think Goku will awake something similar on his own
Further more... I think Goku will awake something similar on his own
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Well in the latest episode 91, Elder Kai pretty much confirmed he could make anyone "mystic" at anytime. Why everyone doesnt do this before the Black Saga is beyond me.Xeztin wrote:Ultimate Goku would be strange, I think that should remain unique to Gohan right? It's his only claim to fame in Super. Also how would you make his hair? All Gohan got was a bang and Goku has like 4 of those. I don't know I just don't like the thought of it because then there's going to be a plot hole of "why doesn't everyone do this to make them stronger?" Also wouldn't that make him weaker than Gohan if Gohan goes beyond "Mystic, Ultimate"?
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How many have asked him to?gofishus wrote:Well in the latest episode 91, Elder Kai pretty much confirmed he could make anyone "mystic" at anytime. Why everyone doesnt do this before the Black Saga is beyond me.Xeztin wrote:Ultimate Goku would be strange, I think that should remain unique to Gohan right? It's his only claim to fame in Super. Also how would you make his hair? All Gohan got was a bang and Goku has like 4 of those. I don't know I just don't like the thought of it because then there's going to be a plot hole of "why doesn't everyone do this to make them stronger?" Also wouldn't that make him weaker than Gohan if Gohan goes beyond "Mystic, Ultimate"?
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