How is that even similar? That was an intentional plot twist. If you think thats similar we wont even be able to discuss this IMO.MagmonKai wrote:GodKaio-Ken wrote:A lot of things in the OP dont happen but its really strange to have Goku power out of SSB into a red aura base form for no reason. Its just not something youd think to do for no reason.MagmonKai wrote:
Are we absolutely sure Goku is going to even get a new form? I thought Gohan was getting all these power ups because he's going to be the one who wins the fight. Besides nothing has indicated that Goku has a new form. Also 90% of the stuff in the OP did not happen or is simply mis-directed footage to garner hype.
You don't put Majin Buu in the OP just to...well not have him in the tournament? Oh wait you do...?
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That's fine by me. If you can't see if that I'm talking about misdirection then we can't discuss anymore.GodKaio-Ken wrote:How is that even similar? That was an intentional plot twist. If you think thats similar we wont even be able to discuss this IMO.MagmonKai wrote:GodKaio-Ken wrote:
A lot of things in the OP dont happen but its really strange to have Goku power out of SSB into a red aura base form for no reason. Its just not something youd think to do for no reason.
You don't put Majin Buu in the OP just to...well not have him in the tournament? Oh wait you do...?
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Gohan?He got one shotted by kkssj blue Goku, how could he hang around with Jiren? Gohan is for Toppo at best.MagmonKai wrote:
Are we absolutely sure Goku is going to even get a new form? I thought Gohan was getting all these power ups because he's going to be the one who wins the fight. Besides nothing has indicated that Goku has a new form. Also 90% of the stuff in the OP did not happen or is simply mis-directed footage to garner hype.
Buu being in the opening has nothing to do with Goku being surrounded by a red aura. Buu was suppose to fight but he fell asleep so he couldnt enter. They couldnt keep buu out of the OP, since then people would automatically know he wont fight. Basically they trolled the Buu fans in a way.
As for new form, maybe u didnt read what i wrote clearly, but i said new form or technique. Could be Goku is using some mastered KK with God ki or w/e. Point is a new form/technique w/e u want ot call it will appear, because its more stuff for Toei to sell. Plus Goku hinted at it vs Toppo, when he said he will go beyond his limits. So he either has a red haired god form thats is stronger than ssj blue, or what i think is the case is that Goku mastered kk and will perfectly combine it with ssj blue with 0 drawbacks.
I think in Toriyama's outline, it will be like Goku gets a new technique/ or form that surpasses ssj blue. And Toei and Toyotaru will go their separate ways it showing what that will be. Toei will logically go towards the KK route, while Toyotaru will make something up.
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I'm cautiously optimistic about it. I'm just not ready to sign on bored with Goku getting the power-up based off the red aura we see in the OP. Considering 90% of what was shown never actually took part in the series. We have no idea what it could be, the Goku fan in me hopes its a new level beyond blue that will once again top Vegeta and make him mad. I'm just also realistic given how Toei has played us in the past, that whatever it is we see in the OP may not show up in the ToP. Maybe it's just hinted at again during the fight, but it's something we'll see later on down the road.
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A part of me likes that he is kept a mystery. We just know he's stronger than Toppo and that's kind of all we need to know at this point. But I think one episode to show Jiren off wouldn't hurt either
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I would like Jiren to have a aweome moment to hype him up, instead of keeping him a mystery until the Tournament.
Something like Toppo, Dyspo and Kahseral are having trouble fighting a Monster, Jiren appears and one shots him à lá One Punch Man.
Only knowing that he's stronger than Toppo is not enough for me.
Something like Toppo, Dyspo and Kahseral are having trouble fighting a Monster, Jiren appears and one shots him à lá One Punch Man.
Only knowing that he's stronger than Toppo is not enough for me.
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Part of me thinks that Jiren will disregard Toppo's hatred for Goku and enjoy fighting him himself.