Come on! He's far cuter than Chiaotzu.Shinda Forever wrote:He looks like a retard, but, his voice is very similar to Chiaotzu. In the bottom, he is like Chiaotzu.
Anyone else can't stand Zen-Oh?
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Tien wont be happy when he finds out youve been looking at Chiaotzus bottom.Shinda Forever wrote:He looks like a retard, but, his voice is very similar to Chiaotzu. In the bottom, he is like Chiaotzu.
They are similar though.
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Hmmm...Snakeway Skywalker wrote:Come on! He's far cuter than Chiaotzu.Shinda Forever wrote:He looks like a retard, but, his voice is very similar to Chiaotzu. In the bottom, he is like Chiaotzu.
Nah I'll go with Chaozu. Zen-Oh looks like a medicine pill with a face drawn on.
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The one who has been looking is Krillin, he always loved Chiaotzu, two bald noseless midgets= perfect couple.GodKaio-Ken wrote:Tien wont be happy when he finds out youve been looking at Chiaotzus bottom.Shinda Forever wrote:He looks like a retard, but, his voice is very similar to Chiaotzu. In the bottom, he is like Chiaotzu.
They are similar though.
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Never cared for Zen-Oh at all as he never struck me as anything worthy of noting at any given time, even if he destroyed everything in Future Trunks timeline. The one thing I don't like about both Zen-Ohs is that they have to repeat what each other says.
The Grand Priest, on the other hand, is far more interesting to me.
The Grand Priest, on the other hand, is far more interesting to me.
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I can respect that opinion. Was it ever confirmed if future Zen-Oh erased everything from existence at the end of the FT saga? I thought it was just that section of U7, but I'm probably wrong. After all, Zamasu did carry out genocide against mortals in all the universes, and killed all the gods (except Zen apparently).Torturephile wrote:Never cared for Zen-Oh at all as he never struck me as anything worthy of noting at any given time, even if he destroyed everything in Future Trunks timeline. The one thing I don't like about both Zen-Ohs is that they have to repeat what each other says.
The Grand Priest, on the other hand, is far more interesting to me.
Also, can we talk about how the Zen-Oh from that timeline must be super incompetent?
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It seems like both of them are imcompetent. Grand Priest is constantly telling him things that he seems to have no idea about that you'd think a god as high as him would know.Snakeway Skywalker wrote:Also, can we talk about how the Zen-Oh from that timeline must be super incompetent?
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It's speculation on my part, as all we saw when they picked Future Zen-Oh up was cosmic dust and particles everywhere.Snakeway Skywalker wrote:I can respect that opinion. Was it ever confirmed if future Zen-Oh erased everything from existence at the end of the FT saga? I thought it was just that section of U7, but I'm probably wrong. After all, Zamasu did carry out genocide against mortals in all the universes, and killed all the gods (except Zen apparently).Torturephile wrote:Never cared for Zen-Oh at all as he never struck me as anything worthy of noting at any given time, even if he destroyed everything in Future Trunks timeline. The one thing I don't like about both Zen-Ohs is that they have to repeat what each other says.
The Grand Priest, on the other hand, is far more interesting to me.
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I mean, yeah, but particularly future Zen-Oh. As king of everything/ruler of all the universes, you'd think he'd know about some evil dude rampaging through the multiverse, killing all the gods and countless mortals, and do something about it rather than be told about it all by some guy you don't even know, and then finally fix the problem. Unless, maybe the Grand Priest doesn't exist in that alternate future timeline(?) or he does and he's just super incompetent as well.Zagacious wrote:It seems like both of them are imcompetent. Grand Priest is constantly telling him things that he seems to have no idea about that you'd think a god as high as him would know.Snakeway Skywalker wrote:Also, can we talk about how the Zen-Oh from that timeline must be super incompetent?
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Which further reinforces my suspicions that Grand Priest is the wisdom/guardian side of things, while Zenos is the force, which is what the God of Destructions/Angels are modeled after. As someone said before Zeno doesn't seem like the typical god of destruction, but that's because he isn't, he's the ultimate god of destruction/power. Now this is all just theory, but I think a lot of things going on are backing this up. Future Zenos destroyed the future timeline without a second of thought, which I actually don't see this happening if Future Grand Priest was around. Supposedly Zenos wants to erase some of the current universes (because there are too many?..) and Grand Priest is trying to mitigate it by holding the tournament (unless the tournament really is a ploy to teach them a lesson in respecting the gods, which it very well may be). Grand Priest actually explains things and seems like what the ultimate god would be, while Zenos just stares off into the world not showing an ounce of wisdom and amazed by everything. This doesn't mean he's a bad character, this is just how they appear to me.Snakeway Skywalker wrote:I mean, yeah, but particularly future Zen-Oh. As king of everything/ruler of all the universes, you'd think he'd know about some evil dude rampaging through the multiverse, killing all the gods and countless mortals, and do something about it rather than be told about it all by some guy you don't even know, and then finally fix the problem. Unless, maybe the Grand Priest doesn't exist in that alternate future timeline(?) or he does and he's just super incompetent as well.Zagacious wrote:It seems like both of them are imcompetent. Grand Priest is constantly telling him things that he seems to have no idea about that you'd think a god as high as him would know.Snakeway Skywalker wrote:Also, can we talk about how the Zen-Oh from that timeline must be super incompetent?
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Now that you mention it..MainJPW wrote: Nah I'll go with Chaozu. Zen-Oh looks like a medicine pill with a face drawn on.
He kinda does..
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Re: Anyone else can't stand Zen-Oh?
Can't stand him.
He's basically a OP God of Destruction. I mean seriously, we haven't actually seen the callous little shit do anything other than destroy things. Some might like the idea of an all-powerful deity with childlike qualities - me? Nah. Little shit is nothing but a spoilt kid who is FAR too used to getting everything his own way, and I don't find that interesting at all.
He's basically a OP God of Destruction. I mean seriously, we haven't actually seen the callous little shit do anything other than destroy things. Some might like the idea of an all-powerful deity with childlike qualities - me? Nah. Little shit is nothing but a spoilt kid who is FAR too used to getting everything his own way, and I don't find that interesting at all.
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I think he's just been manipulated in his way of thinking. Kinda like Majin Buu, and it looks like the Grand Priest may play a part in that.
He just needs a Hercule to come around and talk to him!
He just needs a Hercule to come around and talk to him!
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So he needs his homeboy Goku to help him see the light?TheOne wrote:I think he's just been manipulated in his way of thinking. Kinda like Majin Buu, and it looks like the Grand Priest may play a part in that.
He just needs a Hercule to come around and talk to him!
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Whatever. I just think it would have been interesting to see the idiot do something more than just destroy stuff - he's supposed to be all-powerful after all.Jigurashi wrote:So he needs his homeboy Goku to help him see the light?TheOne wrote:I think he's just been manipulated in his way of thinking. Kinda like Majin Buu, and it looks like the Grand Priest may play a part in that.
He just needs a Hercule to come around and talk to him!
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Haha right! I couldn't see the Grand Priest allowing that thoughJigurashi wrote:So he needs his homeboy Goku to help him see the light?TheOne wrote:I think he's just been manipulated in his way of thinking. Kinda like Majin Buu, and it looks like the Grand Priest may play a part in that.
He just needs a Hercule to come around and talk to him!
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I challenge you to go back when Zeno first appeared in the Champa arc. His power doesn't equate to battle strength, but the ability to erase existence on a small or grand scale. The Angels are the stronger than the Dieties but Zeno could erase them without ever having to fight.SonReggie wrote:Whatever. I just think it would have been interesting to see the idiot do something more than just destroy stuff - he's supposed to be all-powerful after all.Jigurashi wrote:So he needs his homeboy Goku to help him see the light?TheOne wrote:I think he's just been manipulated in his way of thinking. Kinda like Majin Buu, and it looks like the Grand Priest may play a part in that.
He just needs a Hercule to come around and talk to him!
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I think you misunderstood me. I know he's all powerful. I'm simply saying that we've never seen the boring little shit do anything other than destroy stuff. Fair to assume he can create as well as destroy - but again, we've only ever seen him destroy things which, as I said, just makes him an OP God of Destruction. I, personally, don't find that interesting.TheOne wrote:I challenge you to go back when Zeno first appeared in the Champa arc. His power doesn't equate to battle strength, but the ability to erase existence on a small or grand scale. The Angels are the stronger than the Dieties but Zeno could erase them without ever having to fight.SonReggie wrote:Whatever. I just think it would have been interesting to see the idiot do something more than just destroy stuff - he's supposed to be all-powerful after all.Jigurashi wrote: So he needs his homeboy Goku to help him see the light?
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I see. Forgive me! It's almost 5 where I'm at hahaSonReggie wrote:I think you misunderstood me. I know he's all powerful. I'm simply saying that we've never seen the boring little shit do anything other than destroy stuff. Fair to assume he can create as well as destroy - but again, we've only ever seen him destroy things which, as I said, just makes him an OP God of Destruction. I, personally, don't find that interesting.TheOne wrote:I challenge you to go back when Zeno first appeared in the Champa arc. His power doesn't equate to battle strength, but the ability to erase existence on a small or grand scale. The Angels are the stronger than the Dieties but Zeno could erase them without ever having to fight.SonReggie wrote: Whatever. I just think it would have been interesting to see the idiot do something more than just destroy stuff - he's supposed to be all-powerful after all.
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Re: Anyone else can't stand Zen-Oh?
I find Zen-O okay. But I feel there's more for him/them to come, so I can't give a full judgement on him at this point.
He reminds me of Arale and Goku: a childlike figure who wields god-like power. (a trademark of Akira Toriyama). But while Goku and Arale are human enough to be fun and engaging characters, Zen-O comes out as rather frightening. He can destroy universes for fun, fun for him but not for us.
And there's two of them too, so what's going to happen?
He reminds me of Arale and Goku: a childlike figure who wields god-like power. (a trademark of Akira Toriyama). But while Goku and Arale are human enough to be fun and engaging characters, Zen-O comes out as rather frightening. He can destroy universes for fun, fun for him but not for us.
And there's two of them too, so what's going to happen?
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