Is Trunks' advanced SSJ2 form in the manga the equivalence towards his SSJ Rage form in the anime?

[superfan2024]

I have a feeling that Trunks' advanced SSJ2 form in the manga (that made him as strong as a SSJ3) is the equivalence towards the anime's SSJ Rage form because in the anime, when SSJ2 Trunks first sparred with Goku in SSJ3, Trunks lost, but in the manga, Trunks was just as strong as Goku's SSJ3 that Goku had to go SSJG (red form) in order to beat Trunks. Later in the anime, when Trunks becomes SSJ Rage, his power increases way more than it once was, but we obviously know that he couldn't have reached at a God level yet. Our highest assumption is that his power is just below a SSJG (red form), but above or right around a SSJ3, just like the manga.

This is what i'm assuming because the anime didn't explain anything about the transformation other than Trunks just being angry.

If what i'm saying is actually true, then I would've preferred if SSJ Rage didn't have a blue aura because that just makes things very confusing as it makes some viewers think that Trunks could've went or had some God ki, but like I said before, that is impossible for him to obtain. SSJ Rage should've just kept the extra spiky hair without any blue aura.

[Dragonballgod19]

Probably but super saiyan rage basically made trunks exactly useful in that arc the manga however

[pacz360]

I have a feeling that Trunks' advanced SSJ2 form in the manga (that made him as strong as a SSJ3) is the equivalence towards the anime's SSJ Rage form because in the anime, when SSJ2 Trunks first sparred with Goku in SSJ3, Trunks lost, but in the manga, Trunks was just as strong as Goku's SSJ3 that Goku had to go SSJG (red form) in order to beat Trunks. Later in the anime, when Trunks becomes SSJ Rage, his power increases way more than it once was, but we obviously know that he couldn't have reached at a God level yet. Our highest assumption is that his power is just below a SSJG (red form), but above or right around a SSJ3, just like the manga.

This is what i'm assuming because the anime didn't explain anything about the transformation other than Trunks just being angry.

If what i'm saying is actually true, then I would've preferred if SSJ Rage didn't have a blue aura because that just makes things very confusing as it makes some viewers think that Trunks could've went or had some God ki, but like I said before, that is impossible for him to obtain. SSJ Rage should've just kept the extra spiky hair without any blue aura.

What are you talking about Ssj rage is as strong ssjb it allowed him to fight ssjr black and f.zamasu not to mention knocking black out for a moment how the hell could the form be weaker than Ssjg let alone ssj3
Plus he was able to sense vegito Power so yeah he has god ki

[Duo]

I do not believe so. This "Super Saiyan Rage" form, however exciting to watch, was just an invention to give a popular character more screen time during a few episodes (did he even really accomplish anything?). He had more than enough to do throughout the story without being involved with every single fight, so I'm grateful the manga took the more sensible route by comparison.

[OLKv3]

Probably but super saiyan rage basically made trunks exactly useful in that arc the manga however

He wasn't useful though. He got a new form and accomplished nothing with it until the Light Sword at the very end.
Distracting Black so the heroes could escape was also done in the manga. Most of his fights with Black afterwards were meaningless filler where he accomplished nothing but getting his ass kicked so Goku and Vegeta could save him
And the Light Sword moment led to something else he also did in the manga

[Dragonballgod19]

Probably but super saiyan rage basically made trunks exactly useful in that arc the manga however

He wasn't useful though. He got a new form and accomplished nothing with it until the Light Sword at the very end.
Distracting Black so the heroes could escape was also done in the manga. Most of his fights with Black afterwards were meaningless filler where he accomplished nothing but getting his ass kicked so Goku and Vegeta could save him
And the Light Sword moment led to something else he also did in the manga

That ending was bad obviously bad he was actually pretty useful without him goku and vegeta would have died in that arc and in manga seriously he did nothing besides heal goku he was literally Sakura in that arc

[MisteryOne]

Probably but super saiyan rage basically made trunks exactly useful in that arc the manga however

He wasn't useful though. He got a new form and accomplished nothing with it until the Light Sword at the very end.
Distracting Black so the heroes could escape was also done in the manga. Most of his fights with Black afterwards were meaningless filler where he accomplished nothing but getting his ass kicked so Goku and Vegeta could save him
And the Light Sword moment led to something else he also did in the manga

That ending was bad obviously bad he was actually pretty useful without him goku and vegeta would have died in that arc and in manga seriously he did nothing besides heal goku he was literally Sakura in that arc

This is a nonsense. He was as useful in the anime as in the manga. He didn't win a single battle, he failed the Mafuba and that's it. Ignoring the bullshit Gendikama, what did he did? How on hell would Vegeta and Goku be dead wthout him? He got a new form for nothing. Literally everything he did he could have done it without that form. Also in the manga he saved Gowasu and just like in the anime, he allowed Goku and Vegeta to go back to the past.

If you think that just fighting=being useful, you have a serious problem of perception. Characters can be as useful as fighting ones in supporting roles. Just look at manga Shin or anime Mai and Bulma. Trunis was pretty much useless in both medias.

[TheMikado]

The question should be asked,
What was Toriyamas intent in the outline?

Basically it looks like Toriyama states that that Trunks gets stronger, possibly gaining a new form. Doesn't care enough to state how or why or what form and basically it was left to Toei and Toyotaro to figure it out.

At least that's my guess based on what we've seen.

[Dragonballgod19]

He wasn't useful though. He got a new form and accomplished nothing with it until the Light Sword at the very end.
Distracting Black so the heroes could escape was also done in the manga. Most of his fights with Black afterwards were meaningless filler where he accomplished nothing but getting his ass kicked so Goku and Vegeta could save him
And the Light Sword moment led to something else he also did in the manga

That ending was bad obviously bad he was actually pretty useful without him goku and vegeta would have died in that arc and in manga seriously he did nothing besides heal goku he was literally Sakura in that arc

This is a nonsense. He was as useful in the anime as in the manga. He didn't win a single battle, he failed the Mafuba and that's it. Ignoring the bullshit Gendikama, what did he did? How on hell would Vegeta and Goku be dead wthout him? He got a new form for nothing. Literally everything he did he could have done it without that form. Also in the manga he saved Gowasu and just like in the anime, he allowed Goku and Vegeta to go back to the past.

If you think that just fighting=being useful, you have a serious problem of perception. Characters can be as useful as fighting ones in supporting roles. Just look at manga Shin or anime Mai and Bulma. Trunis was pretty much useless in both medias.

They obviously give trunks a new form for merchandise and sales same why they gave him all of vegeta techniques and goku and vegeta didn't win any fights in that arc either

[MisteryOne]

That ending was bad obviously bad he was actually pretty useful without him goku and vegeta would have died in that arc and in manga seriously he did nothing besides heal goku he was literally Sakura in that arc

This is a nonsense. He was as useful in the anime as in the manga. He didn't win a single battle, he failed the Mafuba and that's it. Ignoring the bullshit Gendikama, what did he did? How on hell would Vegeta and Goku be dead wthout him? He got a new form for nothing. Literally everything he did he could have done it without that form. Also in the manga he saved Gowasu and just like in the anime, he allowed Goku and Vegeta to go back to the past.

If you think that just fighting=being useful, you have a serious problem of perception. Characters can be as useful as fighting ones in supporting roles. Just look at manga Shin or anime Mai and Bulma. Trunis was pretty much useless in both medias.

They obviously give trunks a new form for merchandise and sales same why they gave him all of vegeta techniques and goku and vegeta didn't win any fights in that arc either

You can't be serious. First of all there is barely merchandising of SSIkari. They gave it to him because the anime staff is not able to make a consistent story. Second, Goku defeated Zamasu and Vegeta defeated Goku Black in both versions.

[Lord Beerus]

Not really. I mean, the general gist I seem to be getting from how the plot advanced in both mediums is that would get SSJ2 and challenge SSJ3 Goku in a sparring match. Whether Future Trunks would still be able to compete with Goku Black was an element of the plot that left up to Toyotaro and Toei to sort out.

[JulianStyles]

I really cant believe the minds on this board. In the Anime even SS2 Trunks was strong enough to fight Zamasu, SSRage put him on SSB level. SS Rage Trunks was stronger than SSB Vegeta before Vegeta went back in time to train in the hyperbolic time chamber. It allowed Trunks to be just as much in the fight as Goku and Vegeta.

Also Akiras notes probably said. Trunks stalls Goku Black ane Zamasu so Goku and Vegeta can escape. So for Toyotaro Trunks used Taioken, the Anime they gave him a transformation.

[Potara_Vegetto]

I have a feeling that Trunks' advanced SSJ2 form in the manga (that made him as strong as a SSJ3) is the equivalence towards the anime's SSJ Rage form because in the anime, when SSJ2 Trunks first sparred with Goku in SSJ3, Trunks lost, but in the manga, Trunks was just as strong as Goku's SSJ3 that Goku had to go SSJG (red form) in order to beat Trunks. Later in the anime, when Trunks becomes SSJ Rage, his power increases way more than it once was, but we obviously know that he couldn't have reached at a God level yet. Our highest assumption is that his power is just below a SSJG (red form), but above or right around a SSJ3, just like the manga.

This is what i'm assuming because the anime didn't explain anything about the transformation other than Trunks just being angry.

If what i'm saying is actually true, then I would've preferred if SSJ Rage didn't have a blue aura because that just makes things very confusing as it makes some viewers think that Trunks could've went or had some God ki, but like I said before, that is impossible for him to obtain. SSJ Rage should've just kept the extra spiky hair without any blue aura.

The SSRage is stronger than SSGod, and it surpassed SSBlue in the first time. He was the first person capable to keep up a fight with Goku Black SSRosé for a long time, he was capable of fighting Zamasu and Black together, not even Goku and Vegeta SSBlue were capable of it at that moment.

[superfan2024]

I have a feeling that Trunks' advanced SSJ2 form in the manga (that made him as strong as a SSJ3) is the equivalence towards the anime's SSJ Rage form because in the anime, when SSJ2 Trunks first sparred with Goku in SSJ3, Trunks lost, but in the manga, Trunks was just as strong as Goku's SSJ3 that Goku had to go SSJG (red form) in order to beat Trunks. Later in the anime, when Trunks becomes SSJ Rage, his power increases way more than it once was, but we obviously know that he couldn't have reached at a God level yet. Our highest assumption is that his power is just below a SSJG (red form), but above or right around a SSJ3, just like the manga.

This is what i'm assuming because the anime didn't explain anything about the transformation other than Trunks just being angry.

If what i'm saying is actually true, then I would've preferred if SSJ Rage didn't have a blue aura because that just makes things very confusing as it makes some viewers think that Trunks could've went or had some God ki, but like I said before, that is impossible for him to obtain. SSJ Rage should've just kept the extra spiky hair without any blue aura.

The SSRage is stronger than SSGod, and it surpassed SSBlue in the first time. He was the first person capable to keep up a fight with Goku Black SSRosé for a long time, he was capable of fighting Zamasu and Black together, not even Goku and Vegeta SSBlue were capable of it at that moment.

But how is that even possible? That literally makes zero sense. Trunks should not have the powers of a SSJ God, no matter how strong he is. Unless Toei is saying because he trained with a SSJB Vegeta, then somehow Trunks unlocked SSJB ki.

[TheMikado]

I have a feeling that Trunks' advanced SSJ2 form in the manga (that made him as strong as a SSJ3) is the equivalence towards the anime's SSJ Rage form because in the anime, when SSJ2 Trunks first sparred with Goku in SSJ3, Trunks lost, but in the manga, Trunks was just as strong as Goku's SSJ3 that Goku had to go SSJG (red form) in order to beat Trunks. Later in the anime, when Trunks becomes SSJ Rage, his power increases way more than it once was, but we obviously know that he couldn't have reached at a God level yet. Our highest assumption is that his power is just below a SSJG (red form), but above or right around a SSJ3, just like the manga.

This is what i'm assuming because the anime didn't explain anything about the transformation other than Trunks just being angry.

If what i'm saying is actually true, then I would've preferred if SSJ Rage didn't have a blue aura because that just makes things very confusing as it makes some viewers think that Trunks could've went or had some God ki, but like I said before, that is impossible for him to obtain. SSJ Rage should've just kept the extra spiky hair without any blue aura.

The SSRage is stronger than SSGod, and it surpassed SSBlue in the first time. He was the first person capable to keep up a fight with Goku Black SSRosé for a long time, he was capable of fighting Zamasu and Black together, not even Goku and Vegeta SSBlue were capable of it at that moment.

But how is that even possible? That literally makes zero sense. Trunks should not have the powers of a SSJ God, no matter how strong he is. Unless Toei is saying because he trained with a SSJB Vegeta, then somehow Trunks unlocked SSJB ki.

Yup Trunks got a power up that may be around if not surpassed SSG just by getting really really angry at that exact moment. Also I guess the couple hours training with Vegeta as SSB helped a lot.