Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

ThePiccolo · Post by **ThePiccolo** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:36 pm

I've decided to redo bits of my power level list. Feedback is welcome.

Multipliers
Oozaru - 10x base
SSJ - 50x Base
SSJ Grade 2 - 60x Base
SSJ Grade 3 - 90x Base
SSJ2 - 100x Base
SSJ3 - 400x Base

Fusions
Dance - 18.75x A (15xA for Post RoSaT Gotenks)
Potara - A+B x 200

Saiyan Saga

Spoiler:

Namek Saga

Spoiler:

Frieza Saga

Spoiler:

Trunks Saga

Spoiler:

Android Saga

Spoiler:

Cell Saga

Spoiler:

Cell Games

Spoiler:

The Future

Spoiler:

OtherWorld

Spoiler:

Majin Buu Saga

Spoiler:

Fusion Saga

Spoiler:

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:02 pm

ThePiccolo wrote:I've decided to redo bits of my power level list. Feedback is welcome.

Saiyan Saga
Spoiler:
Goku - 416
Piccolo - 408
Special Beam (1st/2nd) - 1330/1440
Kuririn- 206
Tien - 250
Chaozu - 145
Yamcha - 177

Raditz - 1200

_________1 Year Later__________

Gohan- 981
Enraged - 2800
Injured Oozaru - 4,500
Kuririn - 1770
Tien - 1830
Yamcha - 1480
Chaozu - 610
Piccolo - 3500
Goku - 8100
KKx2 - 16,200
KKx3 - 24,300

Nappa(Vs Z-Fighters) - 4500
Full Power - 7000
Vegeta - 18,000
Injured Oozaru - 90,000
Critically Injured - 4,000
Namek Saga
Spoiler:
Gohan - 1700
Potential Unlocked - 14,000
Vs Ginyu Goku - 21,000
Kuririn- 2000
Potential Unlocked - 13,000
Vs Ginyu Goku - 20,000

Vegeta - 24,000
Zarbon Zenkai - 30,000
Recoome Zenkai (Tired) - 150,000

Goku - 90,000
KKx2 - 180,000

Cui - 18,500
Dodoria - 20,000
Zarbon - 21,000
Transformed - 28,000

Guldo - 8500
Recoome - 42,000
Jeice/Burter - 40,000
Ginyu - 120,000
Ginyu Goku - 23,000

Nail - 42,000
Frieza Saga
Spoiler:
Gohan - 200,000
Enraged - 800,000
Kuririn- 75,000
Weighted Piccolo - 280,000
Nail Assimilation - 1,120,000
Full Power - 1,400,000
Vegeta - 450,000
Kuririn Zenkai - 2,400,000

Goku - 3,000,000
KKx20 - 60,000,000
SSJ - 150,000,000

Freeza - 530,000
2nd Suppression - 1,060,000
Full Power - 1,220,000
1st Suppression - 1,750,000
True Form - 3,000,000
50% - 60,000,000
Full Power - 120,000,000
Trunks Saga
Spoiler:
Mecha Freeza (Suppressed) - 35,000,000
Unseen Full power - 140,000,000
King Cold - 90,000,000

Future Trunks - 3,100,000
SSJ- 155,000,000
Goku - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000

Vegeta - 2,800,000
Piccolo (Weights) - 3,600,000
Gohan - 300,000
Krillin - 150,000
Tenshinhan - 70,000
Yamcha- 40,000
Chiaotzu- 18,000
Android Saga
Spoiler:
Goku- 4,500,000
SSJ- 225,000,000
SSJ with Heart Attack- 45,000,000
Vegeta- 4,800,000
SSJ - 240,000,000
Future Trunks- 3,800,000
SSJ- 190,000,000
Piccolo Weighted - 140,000,000
Full Power- 175,000,000

Gohan - 1,400,000
Tenshinhan - 140,000
Krillin - 320,000
Yamcha - 80,000

Android 19- 80,000,000
Energy Absorbed - 125,000,000
Dr.Gero - 100,000,000
Energy Absorbed - 135,000,000

Android 18- 300,000,000
Android 17- 325,000,000
Cell Saga
Spoiler:
Piccolo Weighted- 280,000,000
Full Power- 350,000,000
Worn Out- 300,000,000

Android 16- 480,000,000

Cell Imperfect- 250,000,000
Humans Absorbed- 475,000,000
Semi Perfect Initial- 700,000,000
Full Power- 800,000,000
Perfect (Warm Up)- 1,250,000,000
Bulked Up- 1,750,000,000

Tenshinhan's Neo Tri-Beam- 520,000,000

Vegeta- 16,500,000
SSJ- 825,000,000
SSJ Grade 2, 990,000,000
Final Flash- 1,980,000,000

Trunks- 15,500,000
SSJ- 775,000,000
SSJ Grade 2- 930,000,000
SSJ Grade 3, 1,395,000,000
Cell Games
Spoiler:
Mr. Satan- 15

Goku- 52,000,000
SSJ (50%)- 1,300,000,000
Full Power- 2,600,000,000
Kamehameha- 3,200,000,000
Worn Out- 1,000,000,000

Cell Suppressed vs Goku/Gohan - 2,800,000,000
Full Power- 4,500,000,000
Power-Weighted- 5,400,000,000
Super Perfect- 6,750,000,000

Gohan- 65,000,000
SSJ- 3,250,000,000
SSJ2- 6,500,000,000
Enraged SSJ2- 7,000,000,000
Father-Son Kamehameha- 8,500,000,000

Cell Jr- 2,200,000,000
Vegeta- 41,500,000
SSJ- 2,075,000,000
Trunks- 39,000,000
SSJ- 1,950,000,000
Piccolo- 1,600,000,000
The Future
Spoiler:
Future Android 17- 260,000,000
Future Android 18- 240,000,000
Trunks- 39,000,000
SSJ- 1,950,000,000
Post 3 years- 45,000,000
SSJ- 2,250,000,000
Future Cell- 400,000,000
OtherWorld
Spoiler:
Freeza- 120,000,000
Supressed Cell- 900,000,000

Olibu- 1,750,000,000
Paikuhan Weighted- 2,250,000,000
Full Power- 3,150,000,000
Goku- 52,000,000
SSJ- 2,600,000,000
Super Kaioken- 5,200,000,000
Majin Buu Saga
Spoiler:
Gohan- 50,000,000
SSJ- 2,500,000,000
Post Slight Budokai Training- 56,000,000
SSJ- 2,800,000,000
Weak SSJ2- 4,900,000,000

Goten- 20,000,000
SSJ- 1,000,000,000
Post Training- 24,000,000
SSJ- 1,200,000,000
Trunks- 21,000,000
SSJ- 1,050,000,000
Post Training- 25,000,000
SSJ- 1,250,000,000

Goku- 75,000,000
SSJ- 3,750,000,000
SSJ2- 7,500,000,000
Suppressed SSJ3- 18,000,000,000

Vegeta- 60,000,000
SSJ- 3,000,000,000
SSJ2- 6,000,000,000
Majin SSJ- 3,750,000,000
Majin SSJ2- 7,500,000,000

Krillin- 280,000
Yamcha- 60,000
Android 18- 300,000,000

Piccolo- 1,750,000,000
Supreme Kai- 2,200,000,000
Kibito- 60,000,000

Mr. Satan- 14
Videl- 16
Post Ki Training- 19
Yamu- 35
Spopovitch- 30

Pui-Pui- 30,000
Yakon- 90,000,000
Dabura- 2,500,000,000

Majin Buu Initial- 5,500,000,000
Against Majin Vegeta- 9,500,000,000
Full Power- 14,000,000,000
Angry- 40,000,000,000
Good Buu- 15,000,000,000
Evil Buu- 25,000,000,000

Gotenks- 360,000,000
SSJ- 18,000,000,000
Fusion Saga
Spoiler:
Goten- 40,000,000
Trunks- 42,000,000

Gotenks- 600,000,000
SSJ- 30,000,000,000
SSJ3- 240,000,000,000

Gohan Z-Sword Training- 120,000,000
Ultimate Gohan- 300,000,000,000

Super Buu- 200,000,000,000
Buutenks- 440,000,000,000
Buuiccolo- 202,000,000,000
Buuhan- 500,000,000,000
Buff Buu- 300,000,000,000

Tenshinhan- 200,000

Vegito- 27,000,000,000
SSJ- 1,350,000,000,000

Kid Buu- 25,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku(85%)- 25,500,000,000
Full Power- 30,000,000,000

kid buu THAT much weaker than goku?

Kid buu was playing around the entire time against a serious goku who was going all out from the start, and goku could do nothing but barely fight back on par with him.

Also, kid buu >> Evil buu (skinny) as implied by vegeta.

Skinny buu can't be above suppressed SS3 goku, who was felt at kaioshin planet. If he was, everyone at kaioshin planet would've noticed.

Also , fat buu never powered-up after fighting majin vegeta before his split. So, buu against majin vegeta = against goku.

Darkron2151 · Post by **Darkron2151** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:46 am

apex_pretador wrote:
Skinny buu can't be above suppressed SS3 goku, who was felt at kaioshin planet. If he was, everyone at kaioshin planet would've noticed.

Keep in mind, Kid Buu was able to sense just regular SSJ Goku and Vegeta while they where in the Kaioshin realm.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:24 am

Also keep in mind that there's an inherent difference between being "able" to sense someone from that far, and a ki difference being so large that it actually grabs your attention. I'm pretty sure the only times the latter happened were Goku going Super Saiyan 3 and Evil Boo first forming.

ahill1 · Post by **ahill1** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:43 pm

Very good point Kaboom. But was not Gotenks SSJ sensed from the Kaioshin realm too?

ekrolo2 · Post by **ekrolo2** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:48 pm

ahill1 wrote:Very good point Kaboom. But was not Gotenks SSJ sensed from the Kaioshin realm too?

Nope, Gotenks isn't sensed in the Kaioshin realm until he and Piccolo escape when he's SSJ3.

ahill1 · Post by **ahill1** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:57 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
ahill1 wrote:Very good point Kaboom. But was not Gotenks SSJ sensed from the Kaioshin realm too?
Nope, Gotenks isn't sensed in the Kaioshin realm until he and Piccolo escape when he's SSJ3.

What about this?

Son Goku: Say... have you noticed... that Boo's chi is gone?
Kaioshin: ...Oh... you're right...!!
Kibito: Does that mean...?!
Son Goku: ...I don't know... I don't feel the kids fused chi either... but they haven't fought yet... why would their chi disappear...?

ekrolo2 · Post by **ekrolo2** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:01 pm

ahill1 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
ahill1 wrote:Very good point Kaboom. But was not Gotenks SSJ sensed from the Kaioshin realm too?
Nope, Gotenks isn't sensed in the Kaioshin realm until he and Piccolo escape when he's SSJ3.
What about this?

Son Goku: Say... have you noticed... that Boo's chi is gone?
Kaioshin: ...Oh... you're right...!!
Kibito: Does that mean...?!
Son Goku: ...I don't know... I don't feel the kids fused chi either... but they haven't fought yet... why would their chi disappear...?

Goku's assuming the boys would fuse after sensing Boo's rise in power and that'd he'd be able to pick up on their strength at least somewhat but they're both gone. It's very telling that them turning SSJ initially isn't sensed nearly as far as Super Boo or Goku powering up.

Analytic · Post by **Analytic** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:31 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
ahill1 wrote:Very good point Kaboom. But was not Gotenks SSJ sensed from the Kaioshin realm too?
Nope, Gotenks isn't sensed in the Kaioshin realm until he and Piccolo escape when he's SSJ3.

I believe Herms claimed that Gotenks being sensed from the Kaioshin realm was ambiguous, not that Gotenks was never sensed. Not sure where to find it at the moment, but I recall reading that somewhere before.

Khin · Post by **Khin** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:17 pm

ahill1 wrote:Son Goku: Say... have you noticed... that Boo's chi is gone?
Kaioshin: ...Oh... you're right...!!
Kibito: Does that mean...?!
Son Goku: ...I don't know... I don't feel the kids fused chi either... but they haven't fought yet... why would their chi disappear...?

Isn't that the scene where Boo entered the ROSAT ?

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:34 pm

Darkron2151 wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:
Skinny buu can't be above suppressed SS3 goku, who was felt at kaioshin planet. If he was, everyone at kaioshin planet would've noticed.
Keep in mind, Kid Buu was able to sense just regular SSJ Goku and Vegeta while they where in the Kaioshin realm.

kid buu didn't use IT to go there.
He used kaioshin's technique, which directly teleports from planet to planet. For all we know , he could have gone to the planet his last rampage was on. Kid buu is insane, we can't predict what he'll do.

ahill1 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
ahill1 wrote:Very good point Kaboom. But was not Gotenks SSJ sensed from the Kaioshin realm too?
Nope, Gotenks isn't sensed in the Kaioshin realm until he and Piccolo escape when he's SSJ3.
What about this?

Son Goku: Say... have you noticed... that Boo's chi is gone?
Kaioshin: ...Oh... you're right...!!
Kibito: Does that mean...?!
Son Goku: ...I don't know... I don't feel the kids fused chi either... but they haven't fought yet... why would their chi disappear...?

Goku felt the huge ki of super buu, and after about 1 hr, it suddenly disappeared.
He said that because it is mysterious that buu's ki just vanished and the ki of his supposed opponent (gotenks) isn't even there.

it is like goku doesn't even know why'd buu's ki disappear when no one can kill him.

Kamiccolo9 · Post by **Kamiccolo9** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:43 am

apex_pretador wrote:
Darkron2151 wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:
Skinny buu can't be above suppressed SS3 goku, who was felt at kaioshin planet. If he was, everyone at kaioshin planet would've noticed.
Keep in mind, Kid Buu was able to sense just regular SSJ Goku and Vegeta while they where in the Kaioshin realm.
kid buu didn't use IT to go there.
He used kaioshin's technique, which directly teleports from planet to planet. For all we know , he could have gone to the planet his last rampage was on. Kid buu is insane, we can't predict what he'll do.

You literally see Buu looking around for Goku and Vegeta, sensing them, grinning, and teleporting. What technique he used is irrelevant. The fact is that he sensed them.

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:27 am

Dragon Ball Z Power Level List

References
Average human male: 3-5
Average human female: 2-5
Average human child: 1-1.5

Multipliers
Oozaru: 10x Base
Kaioken: 1.5x Base

2x Base
3x Base
4x Base
20x Base

Super Saiyan: 50x Base
Ascended Super Saiyan: 75x Base
Ultra Super Saiyan: 100x Base
Super Saiyan 2: 200x Base
Super Saiyan 3: 400x Base
Fusion: A = B

(A + B) * 10

Potara: (A * B) = C * (1 - 1) + (10 * (If(A and B = Rivals)Else = 0))

Saiyan Saga

Spoiler:

Namek Saga

Spoiler:

Freeza Saga

Spoiler:

Android Saga

Spoiler:

Cell Saga

Spoiler:

Majin Boo Saga

Spoiler:

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:13 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:
Darkron2151 wrote:
Keep in mind, Kid Buu was able to sense just regular SSJ Goku and Vegeta while they where in the Kaioshin realm.
kid buu didn't use IT to go there.
He used kaioshin's technique, which directly teleports from planet to planet. For all we know , he could have gone to the planet his last rampage was on. Kid buu is insane, we can't predict what he'll do.
You literally see Buu looking around for Goku and Vegeta, sensing them, grinning, and teleporting. What technique he used is irrelevant. The fact is that he sensed them.

DanielSSJ · Post by **DanielSSJ** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:31 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Dragon Ball Z Power Level List

References
Average human male: 3-5
Average human female: 2-5
Average human child: 1-1.5

Multipliers
Oozaru: 10x Base
Kaioken: 1.5x Base

2x Base
3x Base
4x Base
20x Base
Super Saiyan: 50x Base
Ascended Super Saiyan: 75x Base
Ultra Super Saiyan: 100x Base
Super Saiyan 2: 200x Base
Super Saiyan 3: 400x Base
Fusion: A = B

(A + B) * 10

Potara: (A * B) = C * (1 - 1) + (10 * (If(A and B = Rivals)Else = 0))

Saiyan Saga

Spoiler:
Goku: 334 (weighted; pre-training)

416 (pre-training)
5,000 (suppressed)
8,000
12,000 (Kaioken)
16,000 (Kaioken 2x)
24,000 (Kaioken 3x)
32,000 (Kaioken 4x)
Piccolo: 329 (weighted; pre-training)

408 (pre-training)
1,220 (suppressed)
2,200

Gohan: 1 (pre-training)

710 (upset; pre-training)
1,307 (enraged; pre-training)
981
13,070 (Oozaru; pre-training))
2,300 (upset)
2,800 (enraged)
28,000 (Oozaru)
Krillin: 206 (pre-training)

1,083 (suppressed)
1,770
Yamcha: 177 (pre-training)

1,460

Tien: 250 (pre-training)

1,830

Muten Roshi: 139
Raditz: 1,200
Saibaman: 1,200
Nappa: 3,200 (initial)

4,000 (powered-up)
6,000

Vegeta: 12,000 (initial)

18,000
180,000 (Oozaru)
Namek Saga

Spoiler:
Goku: 12,000 (pre-training)

60,000 (suppressed)
90,000
180,000 (Kaioken 2x)
Gohan: 981 (pre-unlocked potential)

14,000 (post-unlocked potential)
20,000
Krillin: 1,083 (pre-unlocked potential)

13,000

Vegeta: 24,000 (1st zenkai)

130,000

Nail: 40,000
Kiwi: 18,000
Dodoria: 22,000
Zarbon: 23,000

28,000 (monster form)

Gurd: 5,000
Recoom: 41,000
Butta: 42,000
Jheese: 43,000
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
Freeza: 530,000
Freeza Saga

Spoiler:
Goku: 3,000,000

60,000,000 (Kaioken 20x)
150,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
Gohan: 100,000 (pre-zenkai)

1,000,000

Vegeta: 150,000 (pre-zenkai)

2,250,000

Piccolo: 70,000 (pre-Sync with Nail)

1,100,000 (suppressed)
1,500,000
Krillin: 75,000
Freeza: 530,000

1,100,000 (second form)
2,000,000 (third form)
5,000,000 (true form; initial)
70,000,000 (true form; 50%)
98,000,000 (true form; 70%)
140,000,000 (true form; 100%)
Android Saga

Spoiler:
Goku: 3,400,000 (pre-training)

170,000,000 (pre-training; Super Saiyan)
5,000,000
250,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
Trunks: 3,300,000 (pre-training)

165,000,000 (pre-training; Super Saiyan)
4,500,000
225,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
Vegeta: 5,600,000

280,000,000 (Super Saiyan)

Piccolo: 180,000,000
Gohan: 3,000,000
Krillin: 500,000
Tien: 300,000
Yamcha: 250,000
#19: 80,000,000 (pre-energy absorption)
160,000,000

#20: 90,000,000 (pre-energy absorption)

120,000,000

#17: 320,000,000 (future)

400,000,000

#18: 300,000,000 (future)

380,000,000
Cell Saga

Spoiler:
Goku: 560,000,000

14,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan 50%)
28,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
Gohan: 700,000,000

35,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
140,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan 2)
Vegeta: 70,000,000 (pre-2nd RoSaT training)

3,500,000,000 (pre-2nd RoSaT training)
5,000,000,000 (Super Vegeta)
400,000,000
20,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
Trunks: 65,000,000 (pre-2nd RoSaT training)

3,250,000,000 (pre-2nd RoSaT training; Super Saiyan)
4,875,000,000 (Super Trunks)
6,500,000,000 (Super Trunks 2)
370,000,000
18,500,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
Piccolo: 400,000,000 (pre-RoSaT training; suppressed)

450,000,000 (pre-RoSaT training)
10,000,000,000
Mr. Satan: 7
#16: 1,000,000,000
Cell: 350,000,000 (post-ginger town)

1,100,000,000
3,000,000,000 (semi-perfect form; suppressed)
4,000,000,000 (semi-perfect form)
14,000,000,000 (perfect form;initial)
32,000,000,000 (perfect form; vs. Goku)
40,000,000,000 (perfect form; vs. Gohan)
80,000,000,000 (perfect form; full power)
130,000,000,000 (super perfect form)
Cell Junior: 22,000,000,000
Majin Boo Saga

Spoiler:
Gohan: 450,000,000 (pre-Mystic)

22,500,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
90,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan 2)
60,000,000,000,000

Goku: 800,000,000

40,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
160,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan 2)
320,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan 3)
1,500,000,000 (EoZ)
Vegeta: 600,000,000 (pre-Majin)

30,000,000,000 (pre-Majin; Super Saiyan)
160,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan 2/Majin Vegeta)
Vegetto: 6,400,000,000,000

320,000,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan)

Piccolo: 12,000,000,000
Goten: 400,000,000 (pre-RoSaT training)

20,000,000,000 (pre-RoSaT training; Super Saiyan)
900,000,000
45,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
700,000,000 (EoZ)
Trunks: 420,000,000 (pre-RoSaT training)

21,000,000,000 (pre-RoSaT training; Super Saiyan)
950,000,000
47,500,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
740,000,000 (EoZ)
Gotenks: 4,100,000,000 (pre-RoSaT training)

410,000,000,000 (pre-RoSaT training; Super Saiyan)
185,000,000,000
9,500,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan)
37,000,000,000,000 (Super Saiyan 3)
Oob: 1,200,000,000
Kaioshin: 380,000,000

3,200,000,000 (Kibitoshin)

Kibito: 8,000,000
Krillin: 350,000
Videl: 8
Mr. Satan: 6.5
Jewel: 6
Spopovich: 5.5
Yamu: 6
Pui-Pui: 21,000
Yakon: 500,000,000
Dabura: 24,000,000,000
Fat Boo: 230,000,000,000
Evil Boo: 160,000,000,000
Super Boo: 30,0000,000,000,000

35,000,000,000,000 (Boocolo)
80,000,000,000,000 (Bootenks)
110,000,000,000,000 (Boohan)
Ultra Boo : 50,000,000,000,000
Kid Boo: 280,000,000,000
Mr. Boo: 140,000,000,000

- Alright, let's adress the elephant in the room. Your power levels get way too high way too quickly. Acording to Beerus, Gokuwould still need Super Saiyan to beat Freeza. If I had to point out where your numbers get out of control, It'd be the "Vegeta & Trunks vs. 2nd Stage Cell" part of the Cell arc.
- Super Saiyan 2 should be a 100x boost, not a 200x boost.
- Piccolo himself has stated that Kaioshin is stronger than him.
- According to the guidebooks, Kibito should be more-or-less on par with base Gohan.
- The guidebooks heavily imply that Gotenks only surpassed Vegeta after his session in the Room of Spirit and Time.

ahill1 · Post by **ahill1** » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:23 pm

kid buu didn't use IT to go there.
He used kaioshin's technique, which directly teleports from planet to planet. For all we know , he could have gone to the planet his last rampage was on. Kid buu is insane, we can't predict what he'll do.

The technique he used to teleport is irrelevant, as he would not know where they went without sensing them.

Spoiler:

Kid Boo looks around, then grins when he found them.

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:26 am

ahill1 wrote:
kid buu didn't use IT to go there.
He used kaioshin's technique, which directly teleports from planet to planet. For all we know , he could have gone to the planet his last rampage was on. Kid buu is insane, we can't predict what he'll do.

The technique he used to teleport is irrelevant, as he would not know where they went without sensing them.

Spoiler:
Kid Boo looks around, then grins when he found them.

oh man, please read the post.

What to say he is searching for them ? Can you predict kid buu?

Desassina · Post by **Desassina** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:34 am

Here's a description of the Saiyans' battle ever since it started:

Earthlings vs the Saibamen

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I'll edit this post to describe Nappa's battle with numbers in the future.

Goku vs Vegeta

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Khin · Post by **Khin** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:34 am

My updated list.Its just the Saiyan,Namek and Freeza Arc for now.Please give me feedbacks so i can improve it.

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apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:01 am

Desassina wrote:Here's a description of the Saiyans' battle ever since it started:

Earthlings vs the Saibamen

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Tenshinhan - 1'830 - a decent power level to start with, which is enough to defeat the Saibaman, who dies at the hands of Vegeta.
Saibaman - 1'200 -> 732 -> 0 - after losing his battle against Tenshinhan, Vegeta kills him with a vaporizing and effortless blast.

Yamcha - 1'480 -> 0 - he's at a level that challenges Raditz, and is more than capable of dealing with the Saibaman. Suicide kills him though.
Saibaman - 1'200 -> 925 -> 1'850 -> 0 - His power drops from damage against Yamcha, and then increases 2 times to kill him through suicide.

Krillin - 1'083 -> 1'770 - enraged by Yamcha's death, he doesn't hold back on his power, which is more than halfway towards double the amount (~1.6)
Saibaman (3) - 1'200 -> 0 - most of them get killed by Krillin's attack, which targeted the Saiyans as well, although there was one left to be killed by Piccolo.

Piccolo - 1'220 -> 1'830 - Piccolo uses a mouth blast with 1.5 times his battle power, which isn't close to full yet. The Saibaman gets killed in the process.
Saibaman - 1'200 -> 0 - this is self explanatory. His power is lower than Piccolo's even before the mouth blast, which is from his suppressed state.
I'll edit this post to describe Nappa's battle with numbers in the future.

Goku vs Vegeta

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Goku - 8'000 -> 16'000 - he uses Kaioken x2 to bring out power that he can control, and whatever loss in power is quickly recovered, to make things simpler.
Vegeta - 18'000 - after he shows the true power of a Saiyan. Even if he took hits, they were not as damaging to bring his power down, which increased to dodge KKx2.

Goku - 8'000 -> 24'000 - he uses Kaioken x3, which is 1.5 times higher than KKx2, so I'll use it to describe his power loss. Goku's power decreases to 5'333.
Vegeta - 18'000 -> 6'000 - Vegeta could have been damaged by twice the amount of Goku's increase in power, which brings us to 3 times less than his original power.

Goku - 5'333 -> 16'000 -> 21'333 - he uses Kaioken x3 to match Vegeta's GG, and then goes over to KKx4, and because it's 0.75 times less than before, Goku is now 4'000.
Vegeta - 6'000 -> 16'000 - he uses Galick Gun, which could have been 0.375 times less than his battle power, making it increase to match Goku's before Kaioken x4.

Goku - 4'000 -> 20'000 - the last number is Goku's hypothetical Kaioken x5, which sets the lowest that Vegeta can be as an Oozaru, if not higher.
Vegeta - 6'000 -> 4'000 - a sensible point to lower his power with the artificial moon, since Full Power Gohan (2'800) is still below him for when Vegeta reverts.

Oozaru - 40'000 -> 36'000 -> 3'600 - the only damage that Goku did was to his eye. Fortunately, this was kept when Vegeta reverted from Oozaru.
Gohan - 2'800 - I'm taking a shot at it, but this is Gohan with his power unleashed, which isn't considerably lower than Vegeta's, nor enough to beat him.

You have lowered vegeta's power too much BEFORE beam struggle. It makes no sense for vegeta to be 6000 & galick gun to be 16,000. I think you must put pre-beam struggle vegeta at about 16000 & galick gun at either same or 18000 with goku being equal to him.

Also, you are neglecting the MASSIVE power loss of vegeta due to beam struggle. Then the drop of power from moon was also significant.
Then the damage taken in Ozaru is OK i guess, as it wasn't much. Also, vegeta must take a huge drop in power AFTER tail cutting. Everytime an ozaru gets tail cut, his power drops massively, and mostly falls unconscious.

Then the incredible power loss from spirit bomb, and the fight against ozaru gohan gohan falling on him.

I'll put these like this:

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