Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

[emperior]

Some people may disconsider other might others might embrace it, but what multiplier would you give to Mystic/Ultimate?

Given that "Ultimate" Gohan is just all of Gohan's dormant power brought to the surface, I see no reason why there should be a static power boost. Functionally, Gohan got about 3,000 times stronger than normal, based on my numbers (subject to change).

As far as Super portraying it as a separate form, I just ignore that. The way the manga portrayed it, it was just a permanent change to his base form, and that's how I treat it.

Why ignore Super? It doesn't contradict the manga. It just expands on Gohan's ultimate form and Toriyama himself designed Gohan to have lost it in RoF (hence the eyes being back to normal)
Now Gohan's eyes are back to being fully outlined and it also seems like he won't have to power-up to his full potential again as we saw him in his ultimate state when he was with Piccolo at night during the end of episode 88.

[ZombieVito]

Which gap should be greater: Initial Semi Perfect Cell at Android 16 or Initial Perfect Cell at SSJG2 Vegeta?

Probably the one between Semi-perfect Cell and No. 16. Perfect Cell smoked Vegeta, but he couldn't tank the Final Flash. While No. 16 didn't try to his Cell with any charged attacks, I doubt he would've gotten better results than Vegeta.

Well, 16 didn't have the chance to do a charged attack.

I have both gaps around the same.

[jeffbr92]

Why ignore Super? It doesn't contradict the manga. It just expands on Gohan's ultimate form and Toriyama himself designed Gohan to have lost it in RoF (hence the eyes being back to normal)

Why not man? People are free to choose either one or another, I enjoy this series a lot but I don't see as part of the main story tho

[emperior]

Why ignore Super? It doesn't contradict the manga. It just expands on Gohan's ultimate form and Toriyama himself designed Gohan to have lost it in RoF (hence the eyes being back to normal)

Why not man? People are free to choose either one or another, I enjoy this series a lot but I don't see as part of the main story tho

He didn't say he ignores all of Super. He just ignores Super's version Gohan's potential unlock power-up even if it expands on what was shown in the manga (which never explained it deeply and left fans confused for decades)

[ekrolo2]

Some people may disconsider other might others might embrace it, but what multiplier would you give to Mystic/Ultimate?

Given that "Ultimate" Gohan is just all of Gohan's dormant power brought to the surface, I see no reason why there should be a static power boost. Functionally, Gohan got about 3,000 times stronger than normal, based on my numbers (subject to change).

As far as Super portraying it as a separate form, I just ignore that. The way the manga portrayed it, it was just a permanent change to his base form, and that's how I treat it.

Why ignore Super? It doesn't contradict the manga. It just expands on Gohan's ultimate form and Toriyama himself designed Gohan to have lost it in RoF (hence the eyes being back to normal)
Now Gohan's eyes are back to being fully outlined and it also seems like he won't have to power-up to his full potential again as we saw him in his ultimate state when he was with Piccolo at night during the end of episode 88.

Gohan's eyes were fully outlined for a while before 88 even aired, hence why quite a few people, myself included, already assumed he got Ultimate back off-screen.

[emperior]

Multipliers
Oozaru - 10x
Super Saiyan (SSJ) - 50x
Super Saiyan 2 (SSJ2) - 100x
Super Saiyan 3 (SSJ3) - 400x
Super Saiyan God (SSG) - 40,000x


Dragon Ball Minus

[spoiler]Jaco - 150
Bardock - 2,500
Gine - 1,000

Bardock (Last Stand) - 10,000[/spoiler]


Dragon Ball Z

Spoiler:

Raditz Arc

Goku
Weighted - 334
Full Power - 416

Piccolo
Weighted - 322
Full Power - 408

Gohan
Base - 1
Anger - 1,307+

Raditz - 1,500

Master Roshi - 139
Krillin - 206
Tenshinan - 250


Saiyan Arc

Goku
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 8000
Kaioken x2 - 16,000
Kaioken x3 - 24,000
Kaioken x4 - 32,000

Gohan
Base - 980
Angered - 2,800

Piccolo - 2,500
Krillin - 1,770
Yamcha - 1,480
Tenshinan - 1,830
Yajirobe - 970
Chiaotzu - 610

Saibamen - 1,200

Nappa - 4,000

Vegeta
Base - 18,000
Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
Great Ape - 60,000

Spoiler:

Namek Arc

Goku (Arrival)
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 90,000
Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000

Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
Nail - 42,000
Namekian Warriors - 3,000

Vegeta
Base - 24,000
Zenkai - 30,000
2nd Zenkai - 60,000

Cui - 18,000
Dodoria - 22,000

Zarbon
Base - 23,000
Transformed - 32,000

Recoome - 40,000
Burter - 40,000
Jeice - 40,000
Guldo - 10,000
Captain Ginyu - 120,000
Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000


Freezer Arc

Goku (Zenkai)
Base - 3,000,000
Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
Super Saiyan - 150,000,000

Krillin - 75,000+

Gohan (Zenkai)
Base - 200,000+
Angry - 1,000,000
Angry 2 - 2,000,000

Piccolo (Nail) - 1,200,000

Vegeta
Base - 480,000
Zenkai - 2,500,000

Freezer
1st form - 530,000
2nd form - 1,090,000
3rd form - 2,120,000
Final Form (50%) - 60,000,000
Final Form - 100,000,000
Final Form (100%) - 120,000,000

Spoiler:

Trunks' Arrival Arc

Mecha Freezer (Suppressed) - 105,000,000

King Cold - 100,000,000

King Cold's soldiers - Average of 1,000

Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000

Goku
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000

Vegeta - 3,000,000
Piccolo - 3,000,000
Gohan - 500,000
Krillin - 250,000
Tenshinhan - 60,000
Yamcha - 50,000


Androids Arc

Goku
Base - 4,000,000
SSJ - 200,000,000
SSJ (Heart Virus) - 150,000,000 (Dropping)

Vegeta
Base - 4,200,000
SSJ - 210,000,000

Future Trunks
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000

Piccolo - 180,000,000

Gohan - 3,200,000
Tenshinhan - 3,000,000
Krillin - 3,000,000
Yamcha - 2,500,000

#19 - 120,000,000
Dr. Gero - 130,000,000

C-18 - 340,000,000
C-17 - 360,000,000


Cell Arc

Piccolo (Kami)
Full Power - 360,000,000
Worn Out - 290,000,000

Android 16 - 420,000,000

Cell
Imperfect - 250,000,000
Humans Absorbed - 420,000,000
Semi-Perfect - 760,000,000
Perfect (Suppressed)- 950,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 850,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)

Future Trunks
Base - 14,500,000
SSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 825,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
SSJ Grade 3 - 1,025,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)


Cell Games

Goku
Base - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)

Gohan
Base - 35,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
SSJ2 - 3,500,000,000
Wounded - 3,000,000,000
Father-Son Kamehameha - 5,000,000,000

Perfect Cell
vs Goku - 1,500,000,000
vs Gohan - 1,800,000,000
Full Power - 2,500,000,000
Super Perfect - 3,500,000,000

Cell Jr - 1,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000

Future Trunks
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000

Piccolo - 900,000,000
Krillin - 10,000,000
Tenshinan - 10,000,000
Yamcha - 9,000,000


The Future

Future #17- 320,000,000
Future #18- 300,000,000

Future Gohan
Base - 3,200,000
SSJ - 160,000,000

Future Trunks (Post Cell Games)
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
3 years later - 24,000,000
SSJ - 1,200,000,000

Future Cell- 250,000,000

Spoiler:

Babidi Arc

Gohan
Base - 25,000,000
SSJ - 1,250,000,000

Post Training - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000

Goten
Base - 9,000,000
FPSSJ - 450,000,000
Post Training - 14,000,000
FPSSJ - 700,000,000

Trunks
Base - 10,000,000
FPSSJ - 500,000,000
Post Training - 15,000,000
FPSSJ - 750,000,000

Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 16,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 4,000,000,000

Krillin - 10,000,000
C-18 - 400,000,000

Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Kaioshin- 1,200,000,000
Kibito - 50,000,000

Pui-Pui - 100,000
Yakon - 35,000,000
Dabura - 2,500,000,000

Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000

Gotenks
Base - 140,000,000
SSJ - 7,000,000,000
(Fusion multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 5)


Buu Arc

Goten - 20,000,000
Trunks - 20,000,000

Gotenks
Base - 200,000,000
SSJ - 10,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000
(Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is 100x)

Gohan (Ultimate) - 25,000,000,000

Super Buu - 18,000,000,000
Buutenks - 28,000,000,000
Buuhan - 30,000,000,000

Kibitoshin - 2,500,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 2)

Vegetto
Base - 800,000,000
SSJ - 40,000,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 10)

Kid Buu - 12,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 12,000,000,000
SSJ3 (Full Power) - 16,000,000,000

Dragon Ball Super Power Levels

Spoiler:

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000
SSG (Full Power) - 2,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSJ2 (Rage) - 400,000,000,000

Gohan
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
Ultimate - 20,000,000,000

Majin Buu - 4,000,000,000
Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
#18 - 400,000,000

Beerus
10% (vs Vegeta) - 500,000,000,000
100% (vs Goku) - 5,000,000,000,000
True 100% - 100,000,000,000,000

Whis
True Power - 150,000,000,000,000

Spoiler:

Goku
God Base - 2,500,000,000,000
SSB - 5,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
God Base - 2,500,000,000,000
SSB - 5,000,000,000,000

Freezer
1st Form - 10,600,000,000
4th Form - 2,500,000,000,000
Golden - 6,500,000,000,000
Exhausted - 3,250,000,000,000 (Dropping)

Gohan
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000

Freezer's Soldiers - Average of 100
Tagoma - 2,000,000,000

Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Tenshinan - 40,000,000
Krillin - 25,000,000
Master Roshi - ?
Jaco- 150

Spoiler:

U7

Whis - 150,000,000,000,000

Beerus - 100,000,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
God Base - 3,500,000,000,000
SSB - 7,000,000,000,000
SSB + KKx2 - 14,000,000,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 70,000,000,000,000

Vegeta

Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
God Base - 3,500,000,000,000
SSB - 7,000,000,000,000

Piccolo - 1,200,000,000

Majin Buu - 4,000,000,000

Monaka - 1


U6

Vados - ? 150,000,000,000,050

Champa - ? 99,999,999,999,950

Botamo - 50,000,000

Frost
1st Form - 10,600,000
Assault Form - 50,000,000
Final Form - 2,000,000,000,000

Otto Magetta - 5,000,000,000

Cabba
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000

Hit - 7,500,000,000,000

Spoiler:

Present

Future Trunks
Base - 60,000,000
SSJ2 - 12,000,000,000

Black - 25,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000

Zamasu - 15,000,000,000


Future

Future Trunks (Post Training)
Base - 60,000,000
FPSSJ2 - 120,000,000,000
SSJ2 (Boost) - 5,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Rage - 15,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 50,000,000
God Base - 3,750,000,000,000
SSB - 7,500,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
God Base - 3,750,000,000,000
SSB - 7,500,000,000,000
SSB (Rage) - 15,000,000,000

Vegeta (Rage + Training)
God Base - 12,500,000,000,000
SSB - 17,500,000,000,000

Black (Goku boost)
Base - 7,500,000,000,000
SSR - 12,500,000,000,000
SSR (2nd boost) - 15,000,000,000,000
SSR (Rage boost) - 17,000,000,000,000

Future Zamasu - 5,000,000,000,000


Fusions

Goku
God Base - 7,500,000,000,000
SSB - 15,000,000,000,000
KHH + KK - 60,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
God Base - 8,750,000,000,000
SSB - 17,500,000,000,000

Future Trunks (Boost)
Super Saiyan Rage - 17,500,000,000,000

Merged Zamasu
Halo (1/6) - 44,000,000,000,000
Full Power - 264,000,000,000,000
Giant Form (1/2) - 132,000,000,000,000 (Decreasing)
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 12)

Vegetto
God Base - 137,500,000,000
SSB - 275,000,000,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 10)

Spirit Sword Trunks - 150,000,000,000,000

Spoiler:

Zen Exhibition Match

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
God Base - 7,500,000,000,000
SSB - 15,000,000,000,000
SSB + KKx2 - 30,000,000,000,000

Gohan
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ Poisoned - 100,000,000

Majin Buu - 4,000,000,000

Basil - 50,000,000
Power-Up - 2,500,000,000

Lavenda - 50,000,000

Bergamo
First Power Up - 100,000,000
SSJ Power Up - 5,000,000,000
SSB Power Up (Limit) - 15,000,000,000,000

Toppo - 15,000,000,000,000

U7 warriors recruitment

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSB - 30,000,000,000,000 (Minimum used 300,000,000)

Gohan
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
Ultimate - 25,000,000,000

Piccolo - 6,000,000,000
Krillin - 50,000,000
Master Roshi - 45,000,000
Tenshinan - 45,000,000
C-18 - 500,000,000
C-17 - 1,000,000,000,000
Majin Buu (Fit) - 5,000,000,000

[ZombieVito]

Multipliers
Oozaru - 10x
Super Saiyan (SSJ) - 50x
Super Saiyan 2 (SSJ2) - 100x
Super Saiyan 3 (SSJ3) - 400x
Super Saiyan God (SSG) - 40,000x


Dragon Ball Minus

[spoiler]Jaco - 150
Bardock - 2,500
Gine - 1,000

Bardock (Last Stand) - 10,000[/spoiler]


Dragon Ball Z

Spoiler:

Raditz Arc

Goku
Weighted - 334
Full Power - 416

Piccolo
Weighted - 322
Full Power - 408

Gohan
Base - 1
Anger - 1,307+

Raditz - 1,500

Master Roshi - 139
Krillin - 206
Tenshinan - 250


Saiyan Arc

Goku
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 8000
Kaioken x2 - 16,000
Kaioken x3 - 24,000
Kaioken x4 - 32,000

Gohan
Base - 980
Angered - 2,800

Piccolo - 2,500
Krillin - 1,770
Yamcha - 1,480
Tenshinan - 1,830
Yajirobe - 970
Chiaotzu - 610

Saibamen - 1,200

Nappa - 4,000

Vegeta
Base - 18,000
Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
Great Ape - 60,000

Spoiler:

Namek Arc

Goku (Arrival)
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 90,000
Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000

Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
Nail - 42,000
Namekian Warriors - 3,000

Vegeta
Base - 24,000
Zenkai - 30,000
2nd Zenkai - 60,000

Cui - 18,000
Dodoria - 22,000

Zarbon
Base - 23,000
Transformed - 32,000

Recoome - 40,000
Burter - 40,000
Jeice - 40,000
Guldo - 10,000
Captain Ginyu - 120,000
Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000


Freezer Arc

Goku (Zenkai)
Base - 3,000,000
Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
Super Saiyan - 150,000,000

Krillin - 75,000+

Gohan (Zenkai)
Base - 200,000+
Angry - 1,000,000
Angry 2 - 2,000,000

Piccolo (Nail) - 1,200,000

Vegeta
Base - 480,000
Zenkai - 2,500,000

Freezer
1st form - 530,000
2nd form - 1,090,000
3rd form - 2,120,000
Final Form (50%) - 60,000,000
Final Form - 100,000,000
Final Form (100%) - 120,000,000

Spoiler:

Trunks' Arrival Arc

Mecha Freezer (Suppressed) - 105,000,000

King Cold - 100,000,000

King Cold's soldiers - Average of 1,000

Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000

Goku
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000

Vegeta - 3,000,000
Piccolo - 3,000,000
Gohan - 500,000
Krillin - 250,000
Tenshinhan - 60,000
Yamcha - 50,000


Androids Arc

Goku
Base - 4,000,000
SSJ - 200,000,000
SSJ (Heart Virus) - 150,000,000 (Dropping)

Vegeta
Base - 4,200,000
SSJ - 210,000,000

Future Trunks
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000

Piccolo - 180,000,000

Gohan - 3,200,000
Tenshinhan - 3,000,000
Krillin - 3,000,000
Yamcha - 2,500,000

#19 - 120,000,000
Dr. Gero - 130,000,000

C-18 - 340,000,000
C-17 - 360,000,000


Cell Arc

Piccolo (Kami)
Full Power - 360,000,000
Worn Out - 290,000,000

Android 16 - 420,000,000

Cell
Imperfect - 250,000,000
Humans Absorbed - 420,000,000
Semi-Perfect - 760,000,000
Perfect (Suppressed)- 950,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 850,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)

Future Trunks
Base - 14,500,000
SSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 825,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
SSJ Grade 3 - 1,025,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)


Cell Games

Goku
Base - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)

Gohan
Base - 35,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
SSJ2 - 3,500,000,000
Wounded - 3,000,000,000
Father-Son Kamehameha - 5,000,000,000

Perfect Cell
vs Goku - 1,500,000,000
vs Gohan - 1,800,000,000
Full Power - 2,500,000,000
Super Perfect - 3,500,000,000

Cell Jr - 1,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000

Future Trunks
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000

Piccolo - 900,000,000
Krillin - 10,000,000
Tenshinan - 10,000,000
Yamcha - 9,000,000


The Future

Future #17- 320,000,000
Future #18- 300,000,000

Future Gohan
Base - 3,200,000
SSJ - 160,000,000

Future Trunks (Post Cell Games)
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
3 years later - 24,000,000
SSJ - 1,200,000,000

Future Cell- 250,000,000

Spoiler:

Babidi Arc

Gohan
Base - 25,000,000
SSJ - 1,250,000,000

Post Training - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000

Goten
Base - 9,000,000
FPSSJ - 450,000,000
Post Training - 14,000,000
FPSSJ - 700,000,000

Trunks
Base - 10,000,000
FPSSJ - 500,000,000
Post Training - 15,000,000
FPSSJ - 750,000,000

Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 16,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 4,000,000,000

Krillin - 10,000,000
C-18 - 400,000,000

Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Kaioshin- 1,200,000,000
Kibito - 50,000,000

Pui-Pui - 100,000
Yakon - 35,000,000
Dabura - 2,500,000,000

Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000

Gotenks
Base - 140,000,000
SSJ - 7,000,000,000
(Fusion multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 5)


Buu Arc

Goten - 20,000,000
Trunks - 20,000,000

Gotenks
Base - 200,000,000
SSJ - 10,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000
(Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is 100x)

Gohan (Ultimate) - 25,000,000,000

Super Buu - 18,000,000,000
Buutenks - 28,000,000,000
Buuhan - 30,000,000,000

Kibitoshin - 2,500,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 2)

Vegetto
Base - 800,000,000
SSJ - 40,000,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 10)

Kid Buu - 12,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 12,000,000,000
SSJ3 (Full Power) - 16,000,000,000

Dragon Ball Super Power Levels

Spoiler:

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000
SSG (Full Power) - 2,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSJ2 (Rage) - 400,000,000,000

Gohan
Base - 1,250,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
Ultimate - 25,000,000,000

Majin Buu - 4,000,000,000
Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
#18 - 400,000,000

Beerus
10% (vs Vegeta) - 500,000,000,000
100% (vs Goku) - 5,000,000,000,000
True 100% - 100,000,000,000,000

Whis
True Power - 150,000,000,000,000

Spoiler:

Goku
God Base - 2,500,000,000,000
SSB - 5,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
God Base - 2,500,000,000,000
SSB - 5,000,000,000,000

Freezer
1st Form - 10,600,000,000
4th Form - 2,000,000,000,000
Golden - 6,000,000,000,000
Exhausted - 3,000,000,000,000 (Dropping)

Gohan
Base - 1,250,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000

Freezer's Soldiers - Average of 100
Tagoma - 2,000,000,000

Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Tenshinan - 40,000,000
Krillin - 25,000,000
Master Roshi - ?
Jaco- 150

Spoiler:

U7

Whis - 150,000,000,000,000

Beerus - 100,000,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
God Base - 3,500,000,000,000
SSB - 7,000,000,000,000
SSB + KKx2 - 14,000,000,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 70,000,000,000,000

Vegeta

Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
God Base - 3,500,000,000,000
SSB - 7,000,000,000,000

Piccolo - 1,200,000,000

Majin Buu - 4,000,000,000

Monaka - 1


U6

Vados - ? 150,000,000,000,050

Champa - ? 99,999,999,999,950

Botamo - 100,000,000

Frost
1st Form - 53,000,000
Assault Form - 150,000,000
Final Form - 5,000,000,000

Otto Magetta - 10,000,000,000

Cabba
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000

Hit - 15,000,000,000,000

Spoiler:

Present

Future Trunks
Base - 60,000,000
SSJ2 - 12,000,000,000

Black - 100,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000

Zamasu - 15,000,000,000


Future

Future Trunks (Post Training)
Base - 60,000,000
FPSSJ2 - 120,000,000,000
SSJ2 (Boost) - 5,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Rage - 15,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 50,000,000
God Base - 3,750,000,000,000
SSB - 7,500,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
God Base - 3,750,000,000,000
SSB - 7,500,000,000,000
SSB (Rage) - 15,000,000,000

Vegeta (Rage + Training)
God Base - 12,500,000,000,000
SSB - 17,500,000,000,000

Black (Goku boost)
Base - 7,500,000,000,000
SSR - 12,500,000,000,000
SSR (2nd boost) - 15,000,000,000,000
SSR (Rage boost) - 17,000,000,000,000

Future Zamasu - 5,000,000,000,000


Fusions

Goku
God Base - 7,500,000,000,000
SSB - 15,000,000,000,000
KHH + KK - 60,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
God Base - 8,750,000,000,000
SSB - 17,500,000,000,000

Future Trunks (Boost)
Super Saiyan Rage - 17,500,000,000,000

Merged Zamasu
Halo (1/6) - 44,000,000,000,000
Full Power - 264,000,000,000,000
Giant Form (1/2) - 132,000,000,000,000 (Decreasing)
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 12)

Vegetto
God Base - 137,500,000,000
SSB - 275,000,000,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 10)

Spirit Sword Trunks - 150,000,000,000,000

Spoiler:

Zen Exhibition Match

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
God Base - 7,500,000,000,000
SSB - 15,000,000,000,000
SSB + KKx2 - 30,000,000,000,000

Gohan
Base - 1,250,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000

Majin Buu - 4,000,000,000

Basil - 1,000,000,000
Power-Up - 2,000,000,000

Lavenda - 1,200,000,000

Bergamo
First Power Up - 100,000,000
SSJ Power Up - 5,000,000,000
SSB Power Up (Limit) - 15,000,000,000,000

Toppo - 15,000,000,000,000

U7 warriors recruitment

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSB - 30,000,000,000,000 (Minimum used 300,000,000)

Gohan
Base - 1,250,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
Ultimate - 25,000,000,000

Piccolo - 6,000,000,000
Krillin - 50,000,000
Master Roshi - 45,000,000
Tenshinan - 45,000,000
C-18 - 500,000,000
C-17 - 1,000,000,000,000
Majin Buu (Fit) - 5,000,000,000

- Why is Gohan's SSJ a two times power up? Nothing like that was implied.
- At least in Super, Final form Freeza isn't that far off SbG Goku. Even Goku himself admitted that he didn't know if he could beat Freeza without transforming.
- Botamo twice as strong as base Goku?
- Frost twice as strong as SSJ Goku?
- Magetta 4 times as strong as SSJ Vegeta?
- Hit was shown to be overpowered by non-Kaioken SSB Goku. He shouldn't be that strong.
- So you think Black was suppressed while fighting SSJ Goku? Interesting.

[emperior]

- Why is Gohan's SSJ a two times power up? Nothing like that was implied.
- At least in Super, Final form Freeza isn't that far off SbG Goku. Even Goku himself admitted that he didn't know if he could beat Freeza without transforming.
- Botamo twice as strong as base Goku?
- Frost twice as strong as SSJ Goku?
- Magetta 4 times as strong as SSJ Vegeta?
- Hit was shown to be overpowered by non-Kaioken SSB Goku. He shouldn't be that strong.
- So you think Black was suppressed while fighting SSJ Goku? Interesting.

- It didn't seem like he got a major power-up in his fight against Lavenda when he transformed and he was supposed to be the strongest of the Z-Fighters before he even transformed in the RoF arc. EDIT: Would also explain why Basil was able to fight Buu and resist his attack and later on Goku noted Bergamo never used his own power in their fight, so it would make sense for Goku to fight with his base at first. They were smart in that case because they avoided possible power scaling issues just with that line from Goku. As for Gohan I just believe his base is that strong because he has leftover power from his ultimate state.
- You're right. I fixed it, thanks.
- Leftovers from old list, thanks for noticing I fixed it. I made him as strong as Goku.
- As above. I made him 2bil while SSJ Goku is 2.5bil. That would put his gap with Piccolo higher than his gap with Goku which would explain why Goku was sure there was no way for Piccolo to beat him.
- As above. Fixed it to make him only 2x SSJ Vegeta.
- Hit's power is strange and I suppose at the end of the battle he was just a little stronger than KKx2 Goku.
- He definetely was, as Trunks noted that in the future Black showed him more power than what he used against Goku. Though the power level of 100bil I listed there is a leftover from my old list. I now made him 25bil while SSJ3 Goku is 20bil. Trunks noted that maybe Black was a little stronger than SSJ3 Goku after their sparring, though maybe I should just make him 21bil as a 5bil gap is too much.

Thanks for the feedback!

[ZombieVito]

- Why is Gohan's SSJ a two times power up? Nothing like that was implied.
- At least in Super, Final form Freeza isn't that far off SbG Goku. Even Goku himself admitted that he didn't know if he could beat Freeza without transforming.
- Botamo twice as strong as base Goku?
- Frost twice as strong as SSJ Goku?
- Magetta 4 times as strong as SSJ Vegeta?
- Hit was shown to be overpowered by non-Kaioken SSB Goku. He shouldn't be that strong.
- So you think Black was suppressed while fighting SSJ Goku? Interesting.

- It didn't seem like he got a major power-up in his fight against Lavenda when he transformed and he was supposed to be the strongest of the Z-Fighters before he even transformed in the RoF arc.
- You're right. I fixed it, thanks.
- Leftovers from old list, thanks for noticing I fixed it. I made him as strong as Goku.
- As above. I made him 2bil while SSJ Goku is 2.5bil. That would put his gap with Piccolo higher than his gap with Goku which would explain why Goku was sure there was no way for Piccolo to beat him.
- As above. Fixed it to make him only 2x SSJ Vegeta.
- Hit's power is strange and I suppose at the end of the battle he was just a little stronger than KKx2 Goku.
- He definetely was, as Trunks noted that in the future Black showed him more power than what he used against Goku. Though the power level of 100bil I listed there is a leftover from my old list. I now made him 25bil while SSJ3 Goku is 20bil. Trunks noted that maybe Black was a little stronger than SSJ3 Goku after their sparring, though maybe I should just make him 21bil as a 5bil gap is too much.

Thanks for the feedback!

- Gohan was poisoned and getting weaker though. In the preview for episode 90 he's also shown fighting base Goku on par. He was not Ultimate in that scene.
- I still think Magetta is way too high. I never got the impression he was stronger than Vegeta, just way more durable.
- Hit doesn't increase his power when his Time-Skip improves. In episode 40 KKx2 SSB Goku almost beats him in one punch.

[emperior]

- Why is Gohan's SSJ a two times power up? Nothing like that was implied.
- At least in Super, Final form Freeza isn't that far off SbG Goku. Even Goku himself admitted that he didn't know if he could beat Freeza without transforming.
- Botamo twice as strong as base Goku?
- Frost twice as strong as SSJ Goku?
- Magetta 4 times as strong as SSJ Vegeta?
- Hit was shown to be overpowered by non-Kaioken SSB Goku. He shouldn't be that strong.
- So you think Black was suppressed while fighting SSJ Goku? Interesting.

- It didn't seem like he got a major power-up in his fight against Lavenda when he transformed and he was supposed to be the strongest of the Z-Fighters before he even transformed in the RoF arc.
- You're right. I fixed it, thanks.
- Leftovers from old list, thanks for noticing I fixed it. I made him as strong as Goku.
- As above. I made him 2bil while SSJ Goku is 2.5bil. That would put his gap with Piccolo higher than his gap with Goku which would explain why Goku was sure there was no way for Piccolo to beat him.
- As above. Fixed it to make him only 2x SSJ Vegeta.
- Hit's power is strange and I suppose at the end of the battle he was just a little stronger than KKx2 Goku.
- He definetely was, as Trunks noted that in the future Black showed him more power than what he used against Goku. Though the power level of 100bil I listed there is a leftover from my old list. I now made him 25bil while SSJ3 Goku is 20bil. Trunks noted that maybe Black was a little stronger than SSJ3 Goku after their sparring, though maybe I should just make him 21bil as a 5bil gap is too much.

Thanks for the feedback!

- Gohan was poisoned and getting weaker though. In the preview for episode 90 he's also shown fighting base Goku on par. He was not Ultimate in that scene.
- I still think Magetta is way too high. I never got the impression he was stronger than Vegeta, just way more durable.
- Hit doesn't increase his power when his Time-Skip improves. In episode 40 KKx2 SSB Goku almost beats him in one punch.

- You are right. I will change Gohan's and Trio de Dangers' power then.
- You are right here too, I will make Magetta as strong as Vegeta.
- I will adjust Hit's power too, thanks!

[Bullza]

If during the Buu saga...

Super Saiyan Gotenks = 10

Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks = 20

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks = 80

Then what would Super Saiyan 3 Goku be at?

[VegetaSSJBlue]

If during the Buu saga...

Super Saiyan Gotenks = 10

Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks = 20

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks = 80

Then what would Super Saiyan 3 Goku be at?

Super Saiyan 3 Goku = 0.16

[DanielSSJ]

If during the Buu saga...

Super Saiyan Gotenks = 10

Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks = 20

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks = 80

Then what would Super Saiyan 3 Goku be at?

For a while now I considered Gotenks to be at around Fat Boo's level of power as a Super Saiyan or at half of SS3 Goku. Recently I've been considering the idea that Gotenks is just unfulfilled hype and he can't really accomplish anything outside of Super Saiyan 3. I'm slowly but surely redoing my power levels, and I have no idea whether or not I'll actually go through with this or not.
By my old numbers, SS3 Goku would've been a 20 on this list, but with this new scale that I'm considering, he'd be somewhere between 40 and 60.

[ZombieVito]

If during the Buu saga...

Super Saiyan Gotenks = 10

Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks = 20

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks = 80

Then what would Super Saiyan 3 Goku be at?

*Checks list.

I have him at 20.

[Kaboom]

If during the Buu saga...

Super Saiyan Gotenks = 10
Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks = 20
Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks = 80

Then what would Super Saiyan 3 Goku be at?

I think Gotenks was a "work in progress" of sorts before his RoSaT session, after which he was finally a match for Fat Boo with SS1 and obviously much stronger with SS2 and SS3. So that said, on this scale SS3 Goku would be about a 20, and Fat Boo would be about a 10.

[Bullza]

So you two other think Super Saiyan 3 Goku is stronger than Super Saiyan Gotenks then. I see some who have him above and then some who have him below, there's not much to go on with it.

[dragonball0900]

If during the Buu saga...

Super Saiyan Gotenks = 10

Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks = 20

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks = 80

Then what would Super Saiyan 3 Goku be at?

I would put SSJ3 Goku a 18, or basically rounding up to 20. That fits well with SSJ3 Goku being useless against Super Buu, who is around the strenght of Super Buu, nearly a 4 times of difference between SSJ3 Goku and SSJ3 Gotenks/Super Buu, with dimensions apart, Goku is obviously afraid to fight Super Buu.

[DanielSSJ]

So you two other think Super Saiyan 3 Goku is stronger than Super Saiyan Gotenks then. I see some who have him above and then some who have him below, there's not much to go on with it.

To be fair, there's not a lot of concrete information to go off. There's a lot of glowing compliments to Gotenks' strength, but almost no direct comparisons. And except for when he goes Super Saiyan 3, he accomplishes next to nothing in battle. You could take everything at face value and say that he surpassed Goku in his regular Super Saiyan form, or you could say that Gotenks is unfulfilled hype without Super Saiyan 3. Whatever works for you.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

If during the Buu saga...

Super Saiyan Gotenks = 10

Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks = 20

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks = 80

Then what would Super Saiyan 3 Goku be at?

SSJ Gotenks Pre was confident on taking Buu and it was never denied, while suppressed SSJ3 Goku couldn't finish him. Gotenks goes on Rosat because he's too weak for Super Buu, but after he trains on Rosat Piccolo states they "might have a chance", and that's even before he discovers Gotenks can go SSJ. So SSJ3 Goku isn't even 1, and this is using a lower multiplier to SSJ Gotenks.

[VegetaSSJBlue]

If during the Buu saga...

Super Saiyan Gotenks = 10

Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks = 20

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks = 80

Then what would Super Saiyan 3 Goku be at?

SSJ Gotenks Pre was confident on taking Buu and it was never denied, while suppressed SSJ3 Goku couldn't finish him. Gotenks goes on Rosat because he's too weak for Super Buu, but after he trains on Rosat Piccolo states they "might have a chance", and that's even before he discovers Gotenks can go SSJ. So SSJ3 Goku isn't even 1, and this is using a lower multiplier to SSJ Gotenks.[/quote]