YoungJijii's DBAfter Doujin

[KentalSSJ6]

http://blog.livedoor.jp/youngjijii/arch ... 34423.html

Supposedly his own take on the post DBZ era. Features a...sigh...evil Goku but it seems somewhat interesting.

[Scarz]

Ooooooookay. I'm confused. I thought YounJiji had an AF doujinshi that's still ongoing. Is this entirely different? Is he starting over?

Also, fuck everything about evil Goku.

[KentalSSJ6]

Ooooooookay. I'm confused. I thought YounJiji had an AF doujinshi that's still ongoing. Is this entirely different? Is he starting over?

Also, fuck everything about evil Goku.

He's still doing AF as far as I know, something about 30 volumes planned or something.


EDIT - Ok after closer inspection it revolves around Goku's blow to the head that removed his Saiyan nature. During a sparring session with Uub he lands a rather hard blow to Goku's head/neck. The blow causes Goku's Saiyan nature to reappear.

[Scarz]

Ooooooookay. I'm confused. I thought YounJiji had an AF doujinshi that's still ongoing. Is this entirely different? Is he starting over?

Also, fuck everything about evil Goku.

He's still doing AF as far as I know, something about 30 volumes planned or something.

So this is something new? Not connected to his current doujin, or is this some sort of "prequel" story that happened before GT?

EDIT - Ok after closer inspection it revolves around Goku's blow to the head that removed his Saiyan nature. During a sparring session with Uub he lands a rather hard blow to Goku's head/neck. The blow causes Goku's Saiyan nature to reappear.

Most plausible reason for Goku to be evil. I just personally dislike "evil Goku" fan mangas or stories. It's as original as anything with the letters AF attached to it.

[Doctor.]

Ooooooookay. I'm confused. I thought YounJiji had an AF doujinshi that's still ongoing. Is this entirely different? Is he starting over?

Also, fuck everything about evil Goku.

He's still doing AF as far as I know, something about 30 volumes planned or something.


EDIT - Ok after closer inspection it revolves around Goku's blow to the head that removed his Saiyan nature. During a sparring session with Uub he lands a rather hard blow to Goku's head/neck. The blow causes Goku's Saiyan nature to reappear.

My initial reaction was that somehow Uub transferred Boo's spirit into Goku, lol.

[KentalSSJ6]

Well its between Z and GT timeline wise. Whether or not it eventually ties into his AF remains unknown. Nothing in his AF has even mentioned a "evil Goku" in anyway yet so it remains a 50/50. But hey, gives Uub and Vegeta a chance to shine, thats always nice, not that YJ has done nothing but give other characters time to shine in his AF.

[DarkPrince_92]

I'll give this a try. His artwork is good enough that I can deal with whatever story he comes up with.


UPDATE: Just skimmed through it, (obviously can't read it). It's not uninteresting, I guess the way he executed on how Goku becomes "evil" is better than all the other Evil Goku stories I've seen...

[Scarz]

Well its between Z and GT timeline wise. Whether or not it eventually ties into his AF remains unknown. Nothing in his AF has even mentioned a "evil Goku" in anyway yet so it remains a 50/50. But hey, gives Uub and Vegeta a chance to shine, thats always nice, not that YJ has done nothing but give other characters time to shine in his AF.

If there's one thing I like about YoungJiji's doujin is that he does give other characters a chance in the spotlight. It's just that the "story" isn't really interesting to me. If this new doujin is at least somewhat different from his current one (as in the story is more than "We gotta hit Goku harder in the head....again!") I would love to give it a fair shot.

[mAcChaos]

Goku never lost his Saiyan nature. We've already seen how he craves battle. He just stopped being malicious and feral, which could have been because of his "programming," since that's what his orders were attributed to.

Plus why would regaining that suddenly make him become evil? Or do a complete 180 in personality? He still has a long life filled with memories of who he is.

[InfernalVegito]

This is kinda cool. Love Jijii's art as usual. At least fans know how to draw SSJ2.

[KentalSSJ6]

Goku never lost his Saiyan nature. We've already seen how he craves battle. He just stopped being malicious and feral, which could have been because of his "programming," since that's what his orders were attributed to.

Plus why would regaining that suddenly make him become evil? Or do a complete 180 in personality? He still has a long life filled with memories of who he is.

The later pages show him struggling with it. Basically think of it as Vegeta resisting Babidi's mind control.

[Chuquita]

I don't understand the appeal of "Evil Gokû" after we've already had Tullece and Majin Vegeta. (Mentions also go to Bebi Vegeta, the Garlic Jr arc, and Lizard!Beerus). You'd have to do something truly different with the concept if you choose to use it or else it feels like a rehash.

Nice artwork though.

[KentalSSJ6]

The cover shows a battered Vegeta beside a assumingly unfazed Goku. If anything I hope that means we'll get to see Gohan fight. I've always wanted to see those two go at it.

[goku the krump dancer]

I always wanted to see a story where Goku's mind was broken, something where we can see an internal struggle with our beloved dense in the noggin hero. YounJijii's pulling if of in the most sensible and believable way ever and I like it (obviously). Any outside force be it a demon or whatever trying to possess him wouldn't have the same effect I think.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

This is a tough issue for me, as it's is both good and bad on many levels.

Personally, I don't really like the idea of an evil Goku story. Most of what is written around this concept is just horribly done. I don't want some evil clone (literal, not Tullece-esque), I don't want him possessed by someone like Bebi, I don't want him enslaved like Babidi did his warriors, etc. If I had to deal with Evil Goku being a thing though, having it be OUR Goku is the only way this would be a story worth telling. So something like this is how I would want it done, but it's still difficult to do right. I mean, a blow to the head is probably one of, if not the most sensible way to start an arc with this concept, but Goku has take a LOT of blows to the head. So, yeah...

All the negatives aside, I could see how it would be an interesting tale that's a lot more character driven than most of what we've gotten in the past. We'd be losing the Goku we know and love, and so are the characters in-universe. The cast unites around him. He's the "hero". He's their sign of hope when things get bad. What do you do when that person you depend on becomes your biggest threat? I know this sounds a lot like the opposite of the original Battle of Gods plot (where Goku would have fought his evil friends instead of his friends fighting an evil him), but I think that's okay. The tone for that film would have probably been darker than what I'm imagining, but I don't think it would be a bad thing to venture down that type of route a little bit. Dragon Ball is at its best when it doesn't take itself too seriously or get too dark, but I feel this type of story especially would deserve some sort of depth if it were going to be told. At least somewhere around the tone between the Piccolo Daimao and Freeza Arcs.

[FoolsGil]

I like the idea of an evil Goku being the final villain. If only to see someone else save the day, because obviously Goku is indisposed right now.

[Ajay]

Finished translating this just this second with my Japanese friend. Will typeset it tomorrow and post it up for you guys. It's actually...not that bad.

[KentalSSJ6]

Finished translating this just this second with my Japanese friend. Will typeset it tomorrow and post it up for you guys. It's actually...not that bad.

Good to hear, keep up the good work.

[kei17]

Ooooooookay. I'm confused. I thought YounJiji had an AF doujinshi that's still ongoing. Is this entirely different? Is he starting over?

Young Jijii is just a hired artist here. The writer is Omada.

[JulieYBM]

Ah, so he's a hired gun here. He must be passionate about the project if he's willing to do this for someone else on what is likely very little if any money.