One of the best of its time? Not even close.fadeddreams5 wrote:When you compare it to other anime dubs in the 90s, I'd say the hype is justified. It was one of the best of its time, imo.
Nowadays, I feel the Buu and Cell sagas hold up well. Kai dub is great, minus the horrific soundtrack.
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DragonBallKing wrote:Even in the 90's and early 00's it wasn't special, Evangelion and ghost in the shell where dubbed in 96 and set the standard for accuracy in dubs, the Bebop came in 99 and set the standard for good voice acting. The old dub had neither, but your free to like it if you want.fadeddreams5 wrote:When you compare it to other anime dubs in the 90s, I'd say the hype is justified. It was one of the best of its time, imo.
Nowadays, I feel the Buu and Cell sagas hold up well. Kai dub is great, minus the horrific soundtrack.
Correction: one the best that debuted on Toonami at that time, along with Yu Yu Hakusho.8000 Saiyan wrote:One of the best of its time? Not even close.fadeddreams5 wrote:When you compare it to other anime dubs in the 90s, I'd say the hype is justified. It was one of the best of its time, imo.
Nowadays, I feel the Buu and Cell sagas hold up well. Kai dub is great, minus the horrific soundtrack.
It holds no candles on the Cowboy Bebop dub.
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I think it's a good possibility.
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I would say yes. The dub is too often referred to as one of the few anime dubs people would watch in English. The way I see it is that compared to other dubs of its time like Yu Yu Hakusho and Cowboy Bebop the Dragon Ball Z dub doesn't hold up. It's really no different from how 4Kids, Saban and other companies of the late 90s and early 2000s treated their anime dubs. In terms of writing, accuracy and presentation the DBZ dub simply doesn't meet the standards I hold good dubbing to. The Pioneer movies do, but Funimation's in house crew didn't get that good until Kai.
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That's not what I've seen. Of course everybody will have their own opinion and different places might have more people leaning toward one way or the other. However I have never really noticed any place with a majority "Funi can do no wrong" kind of view. And I used to post on the Funi forums...DragonBallKing wrote:That's the general consensus only here on Kanzenshuu. If you go anywhere else the Funi DBZ dub is immune from hate and its fans are the strong majority while Japanese fans are the minority.WittyUsername wrote:I never found the English dub to be "overhyped". On the contrary, it gets its fair share of flack, and is nearly universally agreed to be Funimation's weakest dub.
If anything I think its the other way around. The dub gets tons of hate still, despite the fact that its original run ended almost 15 years ago and has since had a newer version of the show released.
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Agreed 100%,DBZ is easily the most overrated Dub infact I was literally going to make a thread on this same Topic but I am glad someone else made it. As far as my opinion is concerned, I do think YYH and Cowboy Bebop Dubs are kind of Overrated as well but still their dubs never butchered the Show that badly and overall captured the Correct personalities of the Characters but on the other hand DBZ Dub is literally just a Butchery.
FUNimation Ruined DBZ for an entire generation of fans without them even knowing it. terrible out of place acting,ridiculous and Dumbed down Script changes (often times making characters say something they would never say) and unheard of, extremely unfitting Music.
For the ones who defend the FUNi Z Dub by saying Big Green and Malaysian Dubs are worse than it, let me tell them that The Big Green and Speedy dubs only encompass the movies, at least the scripts are more or less accurate to the original from what I've seen, even if the English is a mangled mess and haven't destroyed the heart and soul of what Dragon Ball is in the US.
Besides, you don't see Goku going on about how he's the hope of the universe in the Big Green or Speedy dubs and saying lines like "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE!" "Mondo cool" "Your father was an average warrior, BUT A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!" "Cat loves food, yeah yeah yeah!" I'm just going to point out that even the voice actors agree that the Z dub is an abomination and be done with it. In my opinion the FUNimation's Z dub is easily the worst dub ever produced.
Also, there are so many Forums which keep on mentioning that DBZ Dub is great like This one or The one here and in Latest Watchmojo Top 10 Best Anime Dubs Video you can see which Dub was voted as No.1 which says something about Opinion of Majority of fans.
FUNimation Ruined DBZ for an entire generation of fans without them even knowing it. terrible out of place acting,ridiculous and Dumbed down Script changes (often times making characters say something they would never say) and unheard of, extremely unfitting Music.
For the ones who defend the FUNi Z Dub by saying Big Green and Malaysian Dubs are worse than it, let me tell them that The Big Green and Speedy dubs only encompass the movies, at least the scripts are more or less accurate to the original from what I've seen, even if the English is a mangled mess and haven't destroyed the heart and soul of what Dragon Ball is in the US.
Besides, you don't see Goku going on about how he's the hope of the universe in the Big Green or Speedy dubs and saying lines like "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE!" "Mondo cool" "Your father was an average warrior, BUT A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!" "Cat loves food, yeah yeah yeah!" I'm just going to point out that even the voice actors agree that the Z dub is an abomination and be done with it. In my opinion the FUNimation's Z dub is easily the worst dub ever produced.
I disagree, I think the DBZ Dub is only Critisized here on Kanzenshuu otherwise on all other Platforms they Litreally mention DBZ Dub as one of the Best Dubs to be ever produced and having a Crappy Subbed Version. Most people outside kanzenshuu prefer Faulconer over Kikuchi, Sean over Nozawa and DBZ Dub over Sub and they all make the Sub fans of DBZ look like a Minority and they don't care for Quality but Nostalgia even to this day there are many YouTube channels who reccomend DB Dubs over Sub because they can't stand the High Pitched Voices of Japanese version and dated "Circus Music" that plays in it.dario03 wrote:That's not what I've seen. Of course everybody will have their own opinion and different places might have more people leaning toward one way or the other. However I have never really noticed any place with a majority "Funi can do no wrong" kind of view. And I used to post on the Funi forums...DragonBallKing wrote:That's the general consensus only here on Kanzenshuu. If you go anywhere else the Funi DBZ dub is immune from hate and its fans are the strong majority while Japanese fans are the minority.WittyUsername wrote:I never found the English dub to be "overhyped". On the contrary, it gets its fair share of flack, and is nearly universally agreed to be Funimation's weakest dub.
If anything I think its the other way around. The dub gets tons of hate still, despite the fact that its original run ended almost 15 years ago and has since had a newer version of the show released.
Also, there are so many Forums which keep on mentioning that DBZ Dub is great like This one or The one here and in Latest Watchmojo Top 10 Best Anime Dubs Video you can see which Dub was voted as No.1 which says something about Opinion of Majority of fans.
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I wouldn't go as far to call it the worst dub of all time, I'm sure if you dig hard enough you can find much more butchered anime dubs but DBZ is a special case. DBZ can get away with butchering the product anyway it wants as long as adult goku as a male voice actor and they replace the "lame Jap music". Makes you think how differently that dub would be recieved if a male actor voiced goku in Japan and the Faulconer music was the Japanese OST.
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Pretty much anytime I see somebody say the dub is great there are plenty saying it is not. Plus the OP said " It seems that even among hardcore subbies who say that 99% of all dubs are awful DBZ, YuYuHaksho, and Bebop are the exceptions." which would potentially exclude a lot of the pro dub comments that you are seeing. Somebody that only watched the dub is of course going to prefer the dub.Ripper 30 wrote:Agreed 100%,DBZ is easily the most overrated Dub infact I was literally going to make a thread on this same Topic but I am glad someone else made it. As far as my opinion is concerned, I do think YYH and Cowboy Bebop Dubs are kind of Overrated as well but still their dubs never butchered the Show that badly and overall captured the Correct personalities of the Characters but on the other hand DBZ Dub is literally just a Butchery.
FUNimation Ruined DBZ for an entire generation of fans without them even knowing it. terrible out of place acting,ridiculous and Dumbed down Script changes (often times making characters say something they would never say) and unheard of, extremely unfitting Music.
For the ones who defend the FUNi Z Dub by saying Big Green and Malaysian Dubs are worse than it, let me tell them that The Big Green and Speedy dubs only encompass the movies, at least the scripts are more or less accurate to the original from what I've seen, even if the English is a mangled mess and haven't destroyed the heart and soul of what Dragon Ball is in the US.
Besides, you don't see Goku going on about how he's the hope of the universe in the Big Green or Speedy dubs and saying lines like "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE!" "Mondo cool" "Your father was an average warrior, BUT A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!" "Cat loves food, yeah yeah yeah!" I'm just going to point out that even the voice actors agree that the Z dub is an abomination and be done with it. In my opinion the FUNimation's Z dub is easily the worst dub ever produced.I disagree, I think the DBZ Dub is only Critisized here on Kanzenshuu otherwise on all other Platforms they Litreally mention DBZ Dub as one of the Best Dubs to be ever produced and having a Crappy Subbed Version. Most people outside kanzenshuu prefer Faulconer over Kikuchi, Sean over Nozawa and DBZ Dub over Sub and they all make the Sub fans of DBZ look like a Minority and they don't care for Quality but Nostalgia even to this day there are many YouTube channels who reccomend DB Dubs over Sub because they can't stand the High Pitched Voices of Japanese version and dated "Circus Music" that plays in it.dario03 wrote:That's not what I've seen. Of course everybody will have their own opinion and different places might have more people leaning toward one way or the other. However I have never really noticed any place with a majority "Funi can do no wrong" kind of view. And I used to post on the Funi forums...DragonBallKing wrote: That's the general consensus only here on Kanzenshuu. If you go anywhere else the Funi DBZ dub is immune from hate and its fans are the strong majority while Japanese fans are the minority.
If anything I think its the other way around. The dub gets tons of hate still, despite the fact that its original run ended almost 15 years ago and has since had a newer version of the show released.
Also, there are so many Forums which keep on mentioning that DBZ Dub is great like This one or The one here and in Latest Watchmojo Top 10 Best Anime Dubs Video you can see which Dub was voted as No.1 which says something about Opinion of Majority of fans.
The first link you posted didn't work for me, skimmed the first page of the second and it seems to be more pro sub than dub, or just go with whatever you like and is more sub vs dub in general.
And was the watchmojo list a voted list, or just their picks? Because it says it is their picks which would not say something about the opinion of the majority of fans since watchmojo isn't the voice for the majority of fans. And even if it is a voted list...who voted? Was it only people that watch both subs and dubs? Was it based on a percentage of sub/dub vote or just a whatever anime got submitted the most?
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Strange to think that kids that watch DBZ on CN never watch the series fully in Japanese, but they end up watching the other Shonen series that they enjoy like One Piece, Naruto, Digimon, Bleach and several others in Japanese. Later go on how the dubs for those shows are so terrible and watch it subbed instead.
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You say that like its a absolute. It isn't, some do that, some don't.Hellspawn28 wrote:Strange to think that kids that watch DBZ on CN never watch the series fully in Japanese, but they end up watching the other Shonen series that they enjoy like One Piece, Naruto, Digimon, Bleach and several others in Japanese. Later go on how the dubs for those shows are so terrible and watch it subbed instead.
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I haven't heard anyone else actually praise the Z dub as one of the best dubs ever. Even the majority of YouTube comments I've read don't say that. The Z dub isn't held as some masterpiece of dubbing outside of Kanzenshuu. It has a pretty shoddy reputation in general. There are people who look back at it fondly the same way they look back fondly on the 4Kids dub of Pokemon, but I've never seen it get brought up in any serious discussions about the best English dubs of all time. WatchMojo isn't indicative of popular consensus.Ripper 30 wrote:Agreed 100%,DBZ is easily the most overrated Dub infact I was literally going to make a thread on this same Topic but I am glad someone else made it. As far as my opinion is concerned, I do think YYH and Cowboy Bebop Dubs are kind of Overrated as well but still their dubs never butchered the Show that badly and overall captured the Correct personalities of the Characters but on the other hand DBZ Dub is literally just a Butchery.
FUNimation Ruined DBZ for an entire generation of fans without them even knowing it. terrible out of place acting,ridiculous and Dumbed down Script changes (often times making characters say something they would never say) and unheard of, extremely unfitting Music.
For the ones who defend the FUNi Z Dub by saying Big Green and Malaysian Dubs are worse than it, let me tell them that The Big Green and Speedy dubs only encompass the movies, at least the scripts are more or less accurate to the original from what I've seen, even if the English is a mangled mess and haven't destroyed the heart and soul of what Dragon Ball is in the US.
Besides, you don't see Goku going on about how he's the hope of the universe in the Big Green or Speedy dubs and saying lines like "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE!" "Mondo cool" "Your father was an average warrior, BUT A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!" "Cat loves food, yeah yeah yeah!" I'm just going to point out that even the voice actors agree that the Z dub is an abomination and be done with it. In my opinion the FUNimation's Z dub is easily the worst dub ever produced.I disagree, I think the DBZ Dub is only Critisized here on Kanzenshuu otherwise on all other Platforms they Litreally mention DBZ Dub as one of the Best Dubs to be ever produced and having a Crappy Subbed Version. Most people outside kanzenshuu prefer Faulconer over Kikuchi, Sean over Nozawa and DBZ Dub over Sub and they all make the Sub fans of DBZ look like a Minority and they don't care for Quality but Nostalgia even to this day there are many YouTube channels who reccomend DB Dubs over Sub because they can't stand the High Pitched Voices of Japanese version and dated "Circus Music" that plays in it.dario03 wrote:That's not what I've seen. Of course everybody will have their own opinion and different places might have more people leaning toward one way or the other. However I have never really noticed any place with a majority "Funi can do no wrong" kind of view. And I used to post on the Funi forums...DragonBallKing wrote: That's the general consensus only here on Kanzenshuu. If you go anywhere else the Funi DBZ dub is immune from hate and its fans are the strong majority while Japanese fans are the minority.
If anything I think its the other way around. The dub gets tons of hate still, despite the fact that its original run ended almost 15 years ago and has since had a newer version of the show released.
Also, there are so many Forums which keep on mentioning that DBZ Dub is great like This one or The one here and in Latest Watchmojo Top 10 Best Anime Dubs Video you can see which Dub was voted as No.1 which says something about Opinion of Majority of fans.
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I'm beginning to think it's not that people believe DBZ had a great dub, but more so they believe Japanese DBZ is terrible because of Goku's voice and the music sounds old.
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As one who has only seen the dub for manyy years and only learned of its problems relatively lately (a year ago). Now I prefer the Japenese and I feel I do greatly understand the problems with the changes and butchering of the series in the dub. (Americanizing, etc...). I've actually watched a few arcs of the original dragon ball in Japenese and other parts of Z here and there. (Super too)
I can still definitely understand why people prefer the dub. The cheesy and cartoonish voices in the dub have great chemistry at times and the characters feel close. People connect to these voices and its hard to let go of them. I myself still cannot imagine the characters without they're English voices in the manga.
the Americanized writing does have its charm. It's easier to get into the plot by watching a random episode. I think this works because Dragon Ball is light-hearted in it's core and isn't deep for the most part if at all, this cartoonish dub can be appealing. Some people enjoy the nostalgia and some people just view the series differently than others. For example, some people think of DBZ as inspiration to become jacked or whatnot... Goku being a hero and this version created by the dub is easier for people to relate to. It's easier for Americans to connect to something more American, no?
Even if people understand that the dub is unfaithful, they prefer the dub because of its meaning to them (their childhood, their inspiration) and it's hard to try and change the way you viewed the series for so many years. From my personal experience watching a random episode in Japanese especially from Z is quite off-putting. Nozawa as Goku seems so foreign and misplaced at first, the rest of the voices don't seem nearly as memorable (also because Nozawa voices a few of them XD). The Music is silent and "old".
I only appreciated it after watching in Japanese from the start of Dragon Ball and got used to it. keep in mind I'm only 16 now, so maybe i'm just young and dumb XD
I can still definitely understand why people prefer the dub. The cheesy and cartoonish voices in the dub have great chemistry at times and the characters feel close. People connect to these voices and its hard to let go of them. I myself still cannot imagine the characters without they're English voices in the manga.
the Americanized writing does have its charm. It's easier to get into the plot by watching a random episode. I think this works because Dragon Ball is light-hearted in it's core and isn't deep for the most part if at all, this cartoonish dub can be appealing. Some people enjoy the nostalgia and some people just view the series differently than others. For example, some people think of DBZ as inspiration to become jacked or whatnot... Goku being a hero and this version created by the dub is easier for people to relate to. It's easier for Americans to connect to something more American, no?
Even if people understand that the dub is unfaithful, they prefer the dub because of its meaning to them (their childhood, their inspiration) and it's hard to try and change the way you viewed the series for so many years. From my personal experience watching a random episode in Japanese especially from Z is quite off-putting. Nozawa as Goku seems so foreign and misplaced at first, the rest of the voices don't seem nearly as memorable (also because Nozawa voices a few of them XD). The Music is silent and "old".
I only appreciated it after watching in Japanese from the start of Dragon Ball and got used to it. keep in mind I'm only 16 now, so maybe i'm just young and dumb XD
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I'm 22 now and I'm the same as you, I only appreciated Nozawa after watching the second half of dragon ball in JPN. Yes it's a weird voice but that's what I like about it, there's really nothing like it that I've come across in anime.EZsensei wrote:As one who has only seen the dub for manyy years and only learned of its problems relatively lately (a year ago). Now I prefer the Japenese and I feel I do greatly understand the problems with the changes and butchering of the series in the dub. (Americanizing, etc...). I've actually watched a few arcs of the original dragon ball in Japenese and other parts of Z here and there. (Super too)
I can still definitely understand why people prefer the dub. The cheesy and cartoonish voices in the dub have great chemistry at times and the characters feel close. People connect to these voices and its hard to let go of them. I myself still cannot imagine the characters without they're English voices in the manga.
the Americanized writing does have its charm. It's easier to get into the plot by watching a random episode. I think this works because Dragon Ball is light-hearted in it's core and isn't deep for the most part if at all, this cartoonish dub can be appealing. Some people enjoy the nostalgia and some people just view the series differently than others. For example, some people think of DBZ as inspiration to become jacked or whatnot... Goku being a hero and this version created by the dub is easier for people to relate to. It's easier for Americans to connect to something more American, no?
Even if people understand that the dub is unfaithful, they prefer the dub because of its meaning to them (their childhood, their inspiration) and it's hard to try and change the way you viewed the series for so many years. From my personal experience watching a random episode in Japanese especially from Z is quite off-putting. Nozawa as Goku seems so foreign and misplaced at first, the rest of the voices don't seem nearly as memorable (also because Nozawa voices a few of them XD). The Music is silent and "old".
I only appreciated it after watching in Japanese from the start of Dragon Ball and got used to it. keep in mind I'm only 16 now, so maybe i'm just young and dumb XD
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The worst dub ever produced? I disagree. The dubs from Animax and Odex are way worse.Ripper 30 wrote:Agreed 100%,DBZ is easily the most overrated Dub infact I was literally going to make a thread on this same Topic but I am glad someone else made it. As far as my opinion is concerned, I do think YYH and Cowboy Bebop Dubs are kind of Overrated as well but still their dubs never butchered the Show that badly and overall captured the Correct personalities of the Characters but on the other hand DBZ Dub is literally just a Butchery.
FUNimation Ruined DBZ for an entire generation of fans without them even knowing it. terrible out of place acting,ridiculous and Dumbed down Script changes (often times making characters say something they would never say) and unheard of, extremely unfitting Music.
For the ones who defend the FUNi Z Dub by saying Big Green and Malaysian Dubs are worse than it, let me tell them that The Big Green and Speedy dubs only encompass the movies, at least the scripts are more or less accurate to the original from what I've seen, even if the English is a mangled mess and haven't destroyed the heart and soul of what Dragon Ball is in the US.
Besides, you don't see Goku going on about how he's the hope of the universe in the Big Green or Speedy dubs and saying lines like "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE!" "Mondo cool" "Your father was an average warrior, BUT A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!" "Cat loves food, yeah yeah yeah!" I'm just going to point out that even the voice actors agree that the Z dub is an abomination and be done with it. In my opinion the FUNimation's Z dub is easily the worst dub ever produced.I disagree, I think the DBZ Dub is only Critisized here on Kanzenshuu otherwise on all other Platforms they Litreally mention DBZ Dub as one of the Best Dubs to be ever produced and having a Crappy Subbed Version. Most people outside kanzenshuu prefer Faulconer over Kikuchi, Sean over Nozawa and DBZ Dub over Sub and they all make the Sub fans of DBZ look like a Minority and they don't care for Quality but Nostalgia even to this day there are many YouTube channels who reccomend DB Dubs over Sub because they can't stand the High Pitched Voices of Japanese version and dated "Circus Music" that plays in it.dario03 wrote:That's not what I've seen. Of course everybody will have their own opinion and different places might have more people leaning toward one way or the other. However I have never really noticed any place with a majority "Funi can do no wrong" kind of view. And I used to post on the Funi forums...DragonBallKing wrote: That's the general consensus only here on Kanzenshuu. If you go anywhere else the Funi DBZ dub is immune from hate and its fans are the strong majority while Japanese fans are the minority.
If anything I think its the other way around. The dub gets tons of hate still, despite the fact that its original run ended almost 15 years ago and has since had a newer version of the show released.
Also, there are so many Forums which keep on mentioning that DBZ Dub is great like This one or The one here and in Latest Watchmojo Top 10 Best Anime Dubs Video you can see which Dub was voted as No.1 which says something about Opinion of Majority of fans.
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Re: Does DBZ have the most overhyped anime english dub of all time?
Atleast those dubs never butchered the Heart and Soul of the Show and turning their main Protagonist into a cliche Superhero bragging about Justice all the time and villains saying "whatever turn you on" or "pop goes the weasel"8000 Saiyan wrote:The worst dub ever produced? I disagree. The dubs from Animax and Odex are way worse.Ripper 30 wrote:Agreed 100%,DBZ is easily the most overrated Dub infact I was literally going to make a thread on this same Topic but I am glad someone else made it. As far as my opinion is concerned, I do think YYH and Cowboy Bebop Dubs are kind of Overrated as well but still their dubs never butchered the Show that badly and overall captured the Correct personalities of the Characters but on the other hand DBZ Dub is literally just a Butchery.
FUNimation Ruined DBZ for an entire generation of fans without them even knowing it. terrible out of place acting,ridiculous and Dumbed down Script changes (often times making characters say something they would never say) and unheard of, extremely unfitting Music.
For the ones who defend the FUNi Z Dub by saying Big Green and Malaysian Dubs are worse than it, let me tell them that The Big Green and Speedy dubs only encompass the movies, at least the scripts are more or less accurate to the original from what I've seen, even if the English is a mangled mess and haven't destroyed the heart and soul of what Dragon Ball is in the US.
Besides, you don't see Goku going on about how he's the hope of the universe in the Big Green or Speedy dubs and saying lines like "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE!" "Mondo cool" "Your father was an average warrior, BUT A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!" "Cat loves food, yeah yeah yeah!" I'm just going to point out that even the voice actors agree that the Z dub is an abomination and be done with it. In my opinion the FUNimation's Z dub is easily the worst dub ever produced.I disagree, I think the DBZ Dub is only Critisized here on Kanzenshuu otherwise on all other Platforms they Litreally mention DBZ Dub as one of the Best Dubs to be ever produced and having a Crappy Subbed Version. Most people outside kanzenshuu prefer Faulconer over Kikuchi, Sean over Nozawa and DBZ Dub over Sub and they all make the Sub fans of DBZ look like a Minority and they don't care for Quality but Nostalgia even to this day there are many YouTube channels who reccomend DB Dubs over Sub because they can't stand the High Pitched Voices of Japanese version and dated "Circus Music" that plays in it.dario03 wrote:
That's not what I've seen. Of course everybody will have their own opinion and different places might have more people leaning toward one way or the other. However I have never really noticed any place with a majority "Funi can do no wrong" kind of view. And I used to post on the Funi forums...
If anything I think its the other way around. The dub gets tons of hate still, despite the fact that its original run ended almost 15 years ago and has since had a newer version of the show released.
Also, there are so many Forums which keep on mentioning that DBZ Dub is great like This one or The one here and in Latest Watchmojo Top 10 Best Anime Dubs Video you can see which Dub was voted as No.1 which says something about Opinion of Majority of fans.
I prefer Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, DB/Z/GT Movies, Dragon Ball Super and Dragon Ball GT in Japanese.
For DBZ Kai and two new Movies I like both Dub and Sub. I Prefer Shunsuke Kikuchi Soundtracks over All other Composers.
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For DBZ Kai and two new Movies I like both Dub and Sub. I Prefer Shunsuke Kikuchi Soundtracks over All other Composers.
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Re: Does DBZ have the most overhyped anime english dub of all time?
Sure, but the voice acting in Odex and Animax dubs make the voice actors of the old dub look like Frank Welker.Ripper 30 wrote:Atleast those dubs never butchered the Heart and Soul of the Show and turning their main Protagonist into a cliche Superhero bragging about Justice all the time and villains saying "whatever turn you on" or "pop goes the weasel"8000 Saiyan wrote:The worst dub ever produced? I disagree. The dubs from Animax and Odex are way worse.Ripper 30 wrote:Agreed 100%,DBZ is easily the most overrated Dub infact I was literally going to make a thread on this same Topic but I am glad someone else made it. As far as my opinion is concerned, I do think YYH and Cowboy Bebop Dubs are kind of Overrated as well but still their dubs never butchered the Show that badly and overall captured the Correct personalities of the Characters but on the other hand DBZ Dub is literally just a Butchery.
FUNimation Ruined DBZ for an entire generation of fans without them even knowing it. terrible out of place acting,ridiculous and Dumbed down Script changes (often times making characters say something they would never say) and unheard of, extremely unfitting Music.
For the ones who defend the FUNi Z Dub by saying Big Green and Malaysian Dubs are worse than it, let me tell them that The Big Green and Speedy dubs only encompass the movies, at least the scripts are more or less accurate to the original from what I've seen, even if the English is a mangled mess and haven't destroyed the heart and soul of what Dragon Ball is in the US.
Besides, you don't see Goku going on about how he's the hope of the universe in the Big Green or Speedy dubs and saying lines like "I AM THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE!" "Mondo cool" "Your father was an average warrior, BUT A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!" "Cat loves food, yeah yeah yeah!" I'm just going to point out that even the voice actors agree that the Z dub is an abomination and be done with it. In my opinion the FUNimation's Z dub is easily the worst dub ever produced.
I disagree, I think the DBZ Dub is only Critisized here on Kanzenshuu otherwise on all other Platforms they Litreally mention DBZ Dub as one of the Best Dubs to be ever produced and having a Crappy Subbed Version. Most people outside kanzenshuu prefer Faulconer over Kikuchi, Sean over Nozawa and DBZ Dub over Sub and they all make the Sub fans of DBZ look like a Minority and they don't care for Quality but Nostalgia even to this day there are many YouTube channels who reccomend DB Dubs over Sub because they can't stand the High Pitched Voices of Japanese version and dated "Circus Music" that plays in it.
Also, there are so many Forums which keep on mentioning that DBZ Dub is great like This one or The one here and in Latest Watchmojo Top 10 Best Anime Dubs Video you can see which Dub was voted as No.1 which says something about Opinion of Majority of fans.
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Re: Does DBZ have the most overhyped anime english dub of all time?
What anime's did they dub, for research purposes?8000 Saiyan wrote:Sure, but the voice acting in Odex and Animax dubs make the old Z dub look like Laurence Olivier.Ripper 30 wrote:Atleast those dubs never butchered the Heart and Soul of the Show and turning their main Protagonist into a cliche Superhero bragging about Justice all the time and villains saying "whatever turn you on" or "pop goes the weasel"8000 Saiyan wrote: The worst dub ever produced? I disagree. The dubs from Animax and Odex are way worse.
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