Vic Mignogna

[KBABZ]

I can see the thread being useful for if Vic makes some sort of statement about it.

He already made his statement and there was no effect. I doubt him commenting on his firing would do anything, as far as we're concerned he no longer has anything to do with DB.

Really? Huh, would have thought that warranted being brought up in this thread.

[MasenkoHA]

I find Vic’s “Pity me, my only crime is caring and loving tooooo much” statements sickening. I’m fine with them not being brought up in this thread.

[Kokonoe]

If you are done with this topic then stop posting in it. Don't tell others that a topic is complete just because you say or want it to be.

[KBABZ]

I find Vic’s “Pity me, my only crime is caring and loving tooooo much” statements sickening. I’m fine with them not being brought up in this thread.

Ugh, what a slimeball. I would have accepted just the "hey my acts are awful but please don't attack anyone over it" one.

[Scsigs]

Seriously, that doesn't make a lick of sense to me at all, i mean really could it have killed them to just make translated versions and stick them on there???

I think it comes from FUNimation deciding to not bother spending the money on DB and give it a unique opening. They tried that with the 1995 DB dub after all and that didn't work out so well. DBZ meanwhile they wanted to capitalize on and so they made unique openers and music to make it spark more with their intended audience, and it worked.

The fact that they didn't bother giving unique openings and endings to the 2002 DB dub IMO speaks volumes to their approach there. They wanted to give it the least amount of work possible to get it out the door, so they didn't adjust the lyrics to any major degree at all and the score was left untouched (outside of the odd insert song with that evil Japanese language that US fans hate). The irony is that because of this the 2002 dub was, for the time, the most authentic DB product they made because they didn't put as much effort into changing it!

How is them not making their own theme song them being "lazy"? They dubbed a TV show into another language. That requires getting actors, directors, audio engineers, translators, & writers, most of which they had, but it was still a long process, I imagine, to dub 150 episodes of a TV series over a few years, whilst they were dubbing Z & the movies still &, I believe, were also gonna get started on dubbing GT, as well as some other shows.

And, I'm sorry, but licensing the OST from Toei & the respective music company that owns the rights to said OST must've been far from cheap, especially the opening song. That's the only reason they changed the music for Z in the first place; money. Granted, they were also trying to hardcore appeal to the kid demographic, but that was a side effect. Hell, making a cover of the opening song must've cost the most to license & dub, which is probably why they stopped dubbing One Piece's opening songs. Same with the ending songs. Now they only care to make covers of the songs for DB, which they must see as the only property to do that with, since they don't do it for any of their other, less lucrative, properties. It's not lazy to respect the original intent of the show from its creators. And the original insert songs not being there. Forgive me any unintentional stupidity, but wasn't the reason that Toei didn't have any clean versions of the songs as a part of the OST separate from the original Japanese audio with the rest of the OST? It wasn't because English dub fans "hate" the songs being in Japanese. It was because of them being unavailable.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I think this thread still has a purpose, as a lot of people on youtube and other places are spreading misinformation to try to defend Vic, so debunking that is necessary.

[Scsigs]

I think this thread still has a purpose, as a lot of people on youtube and other places are spreading misinformation to try to defend Vic, so debunking that is necessary.

On a fan forum where only the more serious fans of the franchise go to discuss it. Hardly much debunking going on when THIS is the place for it as opposed to other, more public, places. Not that I don't appreciate this forum, but there's far more discourse going on in other places.

[excelhedge]

Wow. This thread is incredibly one sided.

[gokaiblue]

Wow. This thread is incredibly one sided.

Yeah, it kinda is. Not that I really agree with the #IStandwithVic side, but it seems to be instantly shut down.

[MasenkoHA]

Wow. This thread is incredibly one sided.

We’ve been over this.

This isn’t

Faulconer music vs Kikuchi music

Sean Schemmel vs Masako Nozawa

Stephanie Nadolny vs Colleen Clinkenbeard

Ocean dub vs Funimation dub

GT vs Super

This is a third rate voice actor’s creepy ass inappropriate behavior toward women, that has been an open secret for years, finally getting called out out. There’s not another side there’s just a bunch of gross misogynistic douches deciding the word of multiple women spread over multiple years are all liars because it is targeting some dude whose voice gives them a boner.

[excelhedge]

Wow. This thread is incredibly one sided.

Yeah, it kinda is. Not that I really agree with the #IStandwithVic side, but it seems to be instantly shut down.

To be frank I don't belive that much on either side.

Most "accounts" against Vic can easily be faked plus in the age where everyone carries around a video camera around in a phone/gameing device, ya think there would be more actual proof. Most photos of him giving hugs have fans huging him right back with smiles on their faces.
It also does seem convenient that Monica now working behind the scenes jobs that use to belong to Vic. But she and many other are not helping their credibility by picking fights on twitter or calling for Violence to be done to the man.

On the other hand though we can't eniterly dimiss the words of industry insiders that know the Vic behind the scenes, that most of us never see. A number people in the industry have come out the speak against him. So there may be something there we as fans are just not aware of.

I would like to think Roosterteeth as a open minded company so I don't fault them for trying to stay out of it, but Funimation are not strangers to controversy themselves with inserting SJW agenda into dubs or getting rid of people they find trouble to their political veiws.

[PFM18]

Thought I'd post this here. If anyone says "Where's the evidence?" to the Vic accusations just show them this
(if you want to see it in a higher resolution then open the image in a new tab and at the end of the URL type ".orig")

Still, none of the testimonies are ones of sexual assault and yet hes being accused of sexual assault. There's no evidence of sexual assault. Sure, he did terrible things and it was right to reprimand him for it, but he's still being accused of a felony he didn't commit.

[excelhedge]

Wow. This thread is incredibly one sided.

We’ve been over this.

This isn’t

Faulconer music vs Kikuchi music

Sean Schemmel vs Masako Nozawa

Stephanie Nadolny vs Colleen Clinkenbeard

Ocean dub vs Funimation dub

GT vs Super

This is a third rate voice actor’s creepy ass inappropriate behavior toward women, that has been an open secret for years, finally getting called out out. There’s not another side there’s just a bunch of gross misogynistic douches deciding the word of multiple women spread over multiple years are all liars because it is targeting some dude whose voice gives them a boner.

And how many of these accounts can be actually proven? Sorry I belive in cold hard facts. Anyone can make up a story on the internet.

If was to make a 2nd account on the forum and posted vic touched me would you even know if it was true? Would you even suspect that account and this one was made by the same person.

[VegettoEX]

Again, 50 pages in, we're beyond the point of "I haven't actually read anything on this; prove to me that this is real." All the standard denial rollouts of "anyone can make up a story" and "people are doing Photoshops" have indeed been rolled out and dealt with ad nauseam. Some people might be willing, and all the more power to them, but you'll find very few people with the patience to repeatedly post primers and summaries for every new person showing up every page with these "prove it" responses.

[PFM18]

Wow. This thread is incredibly one sided.

We’ve been over this.

This isn’t

Faulconer music vs Kikuchi music

Sean Schemmel vs Masako Nozawa

Stephanie Nadolny vs Colleen Clinkenbeard

Ocean dub vs Funimation dub

GT vs Super

This is a third rate voice actor’s creepy ass inappropriate behavior toward women, that has been an open secret for years, finally getting called out out. There’s not another side there’s just a bunch of gross misogynistic douches deciding the word of multiple women spread over multiple years are all liars because it is targeting some dude whose voice gives them a boner.

And how many of these accounts can be actually proven? Sorry I belive in cold hard facts. Anyone can make up a story on the internet.

If was to make a 2nd account on the forum and posted vic touched me would you even know if it was true? Would you even suspect that account and this one was made by the same person.

Sure, anyone can make up anything, but we still have a vast catalogue of accounts of his inappropriate conduct from people with no contact with one another. Which one of the following is more likely?

-Vic has been an inappropriate fuck who hasn't fully respected personal boundaries and/or conducted himself in such a way to make tons of underage women uncomfortable, and now these girls/women have now been given a catalyst to stand together and speak out about their experiences.
-An extremely large collection of people with no prior connection to one another, have conspired against Vic to make up many extremely specific accounts of experiences with Vic in which he was acting very inappropriately for the purpose of......ummm...they don't like his voice acting I guess?

[Cursed Lemon]

And how many of these accounts can be actually proven? Sorry I belive in cold hard facts. Anyone can make up a story on the internet.

If was to make a 2nd account on the forum and posted vic touched me would you even know if it was true? Would you even suspect that account and this one was made by the same person.

lol do you take this stance on everything in your life

"How do you KNOW the Holocaust actually happened? The Jews could've easily forged those tens of thousands of Nazi documents proving the trafficking of those people."

[MasenkoHA]

And how many of these accounts can be actually proven?

What the fuck do you expect? Finger prints?

God know your side has decided to blame any photographic evidence as photoshopped

Sorry I belive in cold hard facts

Oh this is rich

. Anyone can make up a story on the internet.

True. And hey isn’t just like a funny coincidence that all these unrelated women have been making similar stories for years? What are the odds they ALL decided to falsely accuse the same man? Schemmel, Sabat, Johnny Yong Bosch, Robbie Daymond damn those men must all just be lucky these don’t have this many people conspiring against them. Poor Vic. He’s the victim here.

If was to make a 2nd account on the forum and posted vic touched me would you even know if it was true? Would you even suspect that account and this one was made by the same person.

Well shit you got me. I mean I haven’t been making the distinction between the testimony of one person and the testimony of multiple people over the years at all or anything.

Shit following that logic why don’t you just tell me Chris Sabat came into your home and killed your parents and stole your dog? Obviously the problem is me and several others are just believing any single person on their word alone. You just tore my entire argument apart. I got owned.

[excelhedge]

And how many of these accounts can be actually proven? Sorry I belive in cold hard facts. Anyone can make up a story on the internet.

If was to make a 2nd account on the forum and posted vic touched me would you even know if it was true? Would you even suspect that account and this one was made by the same person.

lol do you take this stance on everything in your life

"How do you KNOW the Holocaust actually happened? The Jews could've easily forged those tens of thousands of Nazi documents proving the trafficking of those people."

Wow. The Holocaust. Are you really going there? Talking to someone who was born in Germany and spent a good portion of my life there if it was real? You are being utter peice of human garabage right now, you realize that?

And I already made my stance clear if you actually took the time to read the thread or this page for that matter.
viewtopic.php?p=1579969#p1579964

[SaintEvolution]

And how many of these accounts can be actually proven? Sorry I belive in cold hard facts. Anyone can make up a story on the internet.

If was to make a 2nd account on the forum and posted vic touched me would you even know if it was true? Would you even suspect that account and this one was made by the same person.

lol do you take this stance on everything in your life

"How do you KNOW the Holocaust actually happened? The Jews could've easily forged those tens of thousands of Nazi documents proving the trafficking of those people."

I'm sorry, but it's kinda disrespectful comparing such a horrible thing as the holocaust, that killed millions of people and affected the entire world, with something like those Vic Mignogna's misadventures.

[Cursed Lemon]

Wow. The Holocaust. Are you really going there? Talking to someone who was born in Germany and spent a good portion of my life there if it was real? You are being utter peice of human garabage right now, you realize that?

Then maybe you should recognize a fucking garbage take when it comes out of your own ignorant ass mouth, shouldn't you?