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Post by Kakarot88 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:53 am

ect5150 wrote:Lessons in Dragonomics (DBZ economics)

As Kakarot88 and Roland_ELoG point out, demand is greater than the supply for high quality 4:3 episodes of the early sagas of DBZ. Prices are higher as a result, more at 11:00!

This actually makes me wonder what would happen to current prices for the 2nd DragonBox as the level sets had a few more releases.
I think they would undoubtedly be less expensive because the funi singles have 4:3 footage with Japanese dialogue for the episodes that the majority of Dragon Box 2 covers. Hence why Dragon Box 2 is more expensive on most sites than Dragon Box 1. Because, as you surmise and I concur, the level sets cover the majority of the episodes in Dragon Box 1 therefore there is less of a demand for that box set as a cheaper product with 4:3 footage and desired audio is readily available. Dragon Box 2 is unique in that it contains certain episodes with 4:3 footage and Japanese audio as well as American audio that is available under no other North American release.
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Post by kidglov3s » Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:49 pm

Kakarot88 wrote:I say that because those are the ones most difficult to find or at least purchase at a reasonable price, while Walmart still has for sale online for cheap sets 5, 6, and 7...
Funny (or Funi, amirite) that you mention that, it seems like Box 7 has gone OOS everywhere, and it's now the 3rd highest priced on Amazon, in the upper $70s range. 5 and 6 are still abundant, no justice for The Great Saiyaman.

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Post by ect5150 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:23 pm

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Kakarot88 wrote:I say that because those are the ones most difficult to find or at least purchase at a reasonable price, while Walmart still has for sale online for cheap sets 5, 6, and 7...
Funny (or Funi, amirite) that you mention that, it seems like Box 7 has gone OOS everywhere, and it's now the 3rd highest priced on Amazon, in the upper $70s range. 5 and 6 are still abundant, no justice for The Great Saiyaman.
Things like this make me think the printings for each set were unequal. Like Mike said earlier, apparently there is more produced of the the 1st sets in general. It's highly likely the sets that are be deemed "less-popular" then didn't have as many produced. After all, if they really divided up the series... who out there is going to purchase the Garlic Jr. Saga unless they are going strictly for completion? (Hell, I have DBox singles from Japan... why did I even purchase them? Gotta catch 'em all!)
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Post by Roland_ELoG » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:31 pm

As nice as the early Funimation singles are (I own 'em, I love 'em), they're a product of the semi-early DVD age. The menus are all experimental and weird, because hey, that was when "interactive menus" were a feature worth printing in bold on the dust jacket. The bit-rate is also not as high as more recent DVDs, so there is occasional macro-blocking, which is just a reality of compressed video.

Worst of all, they're interlaced, so video quality on a pixel monitor (ie: not CRT), is sub-par. You can see the scanlines. Even with fancy modern interpolation plugins, the "quality" (by this I mean pixels and scan lines, not whatthefuckdidtheydotothecolors) is lower than even the OJ Bricks.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:33 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:As nice as the early Funimation singles are (I own 'em, I love 'em), they're a product of the semi-early DVD age. The menus are all experimental and weird, because hey, that was when "interactive menus" were a feature worth printing in bold on the dust jacket. The bit-rate is also not as high as more recent DVDs, so there is occasional macro-blocking, which is just a reality of compressed video.

Worst of all, they're interlaced, so video quality on a pixel monitor (ie: not CRT), is sub-par. You can see the scanlines. Even with fancy modern interpolation plugins, the "quality" (by this I mean pixels and scan lines, not whatthefuckdidtheydotothecolors) is lower than even the OJ Bricks.
These are true. I kinda like them though. They have a TV-like feel to them I suppose?

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Post by samuraix123 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:37 pm

ect5150 wrote:
kidglov3s wrote:
Kakarot88 wrote:I say that because those are the ones most difficult to find or at least purchase at a reasonable price, while Walmart still has for sale online for cheap sets 5, 6, and 7...
Funny (or Funi, amirite) that you mention that, it seems like Box 7 has gone OOS everywhere, and it's now the 3rd highest priced on Amazon, in the upper $70s range. 5 and 6 are still abundant, no justice for The Great Saiyaman.
Things like this make me think the printings for each set were unequal. Like Mike said earlier, apparently there is more produced of the the 1st sets in general. It's highly likely the sets that are be deemed "less-popular" then didn't have as many produced. After all, if they really divided up the series... who out there is going to purchase the Garlic Jr. Saga unless they are going strictly for completion? (Hell, I have DBox singles from Japan... why did I even purchase them? Gotta catch 'em all!)
Yeah I need to save up and get Box 5 before it goes out of stock. Then I'd have 1,3,5,6,7 :P I've come to terms with me never getting boxes 2 and 4 :lol: BUT THERE'S STILL HOPE WITH PART 5! :P
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Post by Roland_ELoG » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:37 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote:
Roland_ELoG wrote:As nice as the early Funimation singles are (I own 'em, I love 'em), they're a product of the semi-early DVD age. The menus are all experimental and weird, because hey, that was when "interactive menus" were a feature worth printing in bold on the dust jacket. The bit-rate is also not as high as more recent DVDs, so there is occasional macro-blocking, which is just a reality of compressed video.

Worst of all, they're interlaced, so video quality on a pixel monitor (ie: not CRT), is sub-par. You can see the scanlines. Even with fancy modern interpolation plugins, the "quality" (by this I mean pixels and scan lines, not whatthefuckdidtheydotothecolors) is lower than even the OJ Bricks.
These are true. I kinda like them though. They have a TV-like feel to them I suppose?
They have a TV-ten-years-ago feel to them. :D Standard definition, curvy panes of glass, cathode ray guns firing on all cylinders. 480i60 NTSC. The halcyon days of my youth.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:40 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:
eledoremassis02 wrote:
Roland_ELoG wrote:As nice as the early Funimation singles are (I own 'em, I love 'em), they're a product of the semi-early DVD age. The menus are all experimental and weird, because hey, that was when "interactive menus" were a feature worth printing in bold on the dust jacket. The bit-rate is also not as high as more recent DVDs, so there is occasional macro-blocking, which is just a reality of compressed video.

Worst of all, they're interlaced, so video quality on a pixel monitor (ie: not CRT), is sub-par. You can see the scanlines. Even with fancy modern interpolation plugins, the "quality" (by this I mean pixels and scan lines, not whatthefuckdidtheydotothecolors) is lower than even the OJ Bricks.
These are true. I kinda like them though. They have a TV-like feel to them I suppose?
They have a TV-ten-years-ago feel to them. :D Standard definition, curvy panes of glass, cathode ray guns firing on all cylinders. 480i60 NTSC. The halcyon days of my youth.
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Roland_ELoG wrote:
eledoremassis02 wrote:
Roland_ELoG wrote:As nice as the early Funimation singles are (I own 'em, I love 'em), they're a product of the semi-early DVD age. The menus are all experimental and weird, because hey, that was when "interactive menus" were a feature worth printing in bold on the dust jacket. The bit-rate is also not as high as more recent DVDs, so there is occasional macro-blocking, which is just a reality of compressed video.

Worst of all, they're interlaced, so video quality on a pixel monitor (ie: not CRT), is sub-par. You can see the scanlines. Even with fancy modern interpolation plugins, the "quality" (by this I mean pixels and scan lines, not whatthefuckdidtheydotothecolors) is lower than even the OJ Bricks.
These are true. I kinda like them though. They have a TV-like feel to them I suppose?
They have a TV-ten-years-ago feel to them. :D Standard definition, curvy panes of glass, cathode ray guns firing on all cylinders. 480i60 NTSC. The halcyon days of my youth.
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:07 am

So, I guess it's safe to say these Blu-rays will be the Star Wars special editions of Dragon Ball Z.
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Post by KingofWisdom » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:51 am

The longer it takes for the official trailer to surface, the more I think they're making last minute changes to the footage.
ShadowDude112 wrote:So, I guess it's safe to say these Blu-rays will be the Star Wars special editions of Dragon Ball Z.
Except this remastering is being headed by jagoffs that had nothing to do with the original production. So this is worse.
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KingofWisdom wrote:The longer it takes for the official trailer to surface, the more I think they're making last minute changes to the footage.
ShadowDude112 wrote:So, I guess it's safe to say these Blu-rays will be the Star Wars special editions of Dragon Ball Z.
Except this remastering is being headed by jagoffs that had nothing to do with the original production. So this is worse.
But those who had nothing to do with the original production also made us these! :D

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Post by samuraix123 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:16 pm

Those poor level sets...How I miss thee :( Why Funimation Why!? :P I've thought about it. I'll probably get the first Blu-ray release of this to see if I'll be fine with it. If I do kinda like them, I'll just give the orange bricks to my brother and get these. I wonder why Funimation hasn't released an official trailer yet? They took the other one down because?
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Post by Kakarot88 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:34 pm

Was there any spine box art that made a final collective pic on the spines of the level sets presumably if all were released like on the orange bricks and dragon boxes...it seems to me that funi tends to cancel series it has not made a full pic on the side of a set. I'm speculating that happens cuz they only do the spine art when they know irrespective of initial sales firgures they will def continue marketing an entire set rather than release and pull based on sales.
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Post by Roland_ELoG » Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:49 pm

Negative, the Level sets were just standard BluRay cases. Level 1.1 has a slice of Goku, and Level 1.2 has a slice of Vegeta. They wouldn't really fit together.
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Post by Android17 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:59 pm

Does anybody have the screenshots of Goku and Piccolo respectively for the DBZ Level Sets? I'd like to do some comparisons with these new Bluray Season Sets. I apologize if somebody has already done this and I just missed it somehow.

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:05 pm

I'm pretty sure they were done somewhere in this huge forum.

Comparisons between Blu-ray and levels, Blu-ray and Remastered Bricks, and maybe Dragon Boxes somewhere. All waiting to be found. :)
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:37 pm

KingofWisdom wrote:The longer it takes for the official trailer to surface, the more I think they're making last minute changes to the footage.
ShadowDude112 wrote:So, I guess it's safe to say these Blu-rays will be the Star Wars special editions of Dragon Ball Z.
Except this remastering is being headed by jagoffs that had nothing to do with the original production. So this is worse.
Ehhh. Your statement largely fits the Star Wars example too...
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Post by KingofWisdom » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:53 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
KingofWisdom wrote:The longer it takes for the official trailer to surface, the more I think they're making last minute changes to the footage.
ShadowDude112 wrote:So, I guess it's safe to say these Blu-rays will be the Star Wars special editions of Dragon Ball Z.
Except this remastering is being headed by jagoffs that had nothing to do with the original production. So this is worse.
Ehhh. Your statement largely fits the Star Wars example too...
Well, George Lucas is the creator and he was the one at the helm for the special editions (even if the original special effects crew(s) weren't involved). I'd say that's a pretty big difference between these productions.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:01 am

The incompetent jagoff part fits, especially in regards to the "It's not a bug, it's a feature" remastering (in fact, LucasFilm essentially coined that phrase), and he wasn't the director of two of the three films. And the piss-poor color timing and crushed blacks... yeah, we're in the same boat.
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