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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by Daisetsu » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:28 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Image
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dbboxkaifan wrote:If Toei Animation ever does release the entire DBZ anime series on Blu-ray then they should get a new composer to produce BGMs for the remastered episodes and also keep the original Kikuchi score in there for whoever wants it.
One, that's not possible. Two, even if it were, why would they do that?

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:42 pm

They tried getting a new composer once, and it ended in tears. Might not be a mistake they make again.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by qjz123 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:45 pm

Roland_ELoG wrote:They tried getting a new composer once, and it ended in tears. Might not be a mistake they make again.
But aren't they getting another new composer for the buu saga of kai?
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AjayLikesGaming wrote:If you put out untouched footage, someone like me is going to take it and turn it into a perfect release. Someone not like me is going to do the same and share it instead. You give pirates the opportunity to do better than companies and people will jump on that so fast.
This is an 80s/90s animated all-ages show that was popular amongst kids. It's not some potent super weapon that might fall into the wrong hands that we have to protect from evil.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by eledoremassis02 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:09 pm

I just ran my Gohan moc trough a vector program and used some smoothing filters...it's quite scary :lol:

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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:16 pm

Dreadful. :shock:
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Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:40 pm

Blade wrote:I had a go at mocking up the still into 720p under the kind of processing conditions that I suspect Funi used on the Orange bricks.
The Orange Bricks weren't that bad. Actually, I really like the colors on Season Six onward.

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eledoremassis02 wrote:Here's my shot. I even tried to extend the frame some.
Oi. This looks terribly accurate. If it ends up resembling this, the Orange Bricks are undoubtedly superior.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by ect5150 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:05 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:Oi. This looks terribly accurate. If it ends up resembling this, the Orange Bricks are undoubtedly superior.
Is it possible to run one of the Level Sets images through a similar vector program? FUNI could probably get slightly better results since they have some form of a source master. But I agree, it does look terribly accurate.

EDIT: Notice what happened to the clouds in the screen shots above. It seems similar to the clouds in the trailer.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:40 pm

Here ya go :D This is using Steve's transfer
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:52 pm

It's funny. I posted this a while ago. I made it before the new Blu-ray's footage was unveiled (I slapped the BttF logo on it after the fact), and I was shockingly accurate. :lol:

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Except I think mine's backgrounds are actually much better than the water colored, layered crap on the new Blu-rays.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:55 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:It's funny. I posted this a while ago. I made it before the new Blu-ray's footage was unveiled (I slapped the BttF logo on it after the fact), and I was shockingly accurate. :lol:
Except I think mine's backgrounds are actually much better than the water colored, layered crap on the new Blu-rays.
Let's team up and re-master DBZ :lol: :lol:

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by Ringworm128 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:58 pm

ect5150 wrote:
KingofWisdom wrote:It makes it look worse. What's wrong with an animation looking its age?
I tend to agree. While I like seeing the new DB specials and new movie, I still like the older animation styles. I think we (society) are beyond anything that would produce animation like that again.

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You just don't see anything like the above anymore (at least I don't). The new stuff looks too clean - which can be good depending on what it is, but the newer/cleaner animation seems to be missing something to me.
Newer animation can still look good. I suggest you check out the Rebuild Evangelion movies, they look fantastic with incredible detail.

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Post by Roland_ELoG » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:17 pm

It really does depend on the show, but I understand the point. Most new anime I see have an oddly off-putting shiny look to them.
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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:05 am

The problem is cheap digital animation, say what you see with recent arcs of Pokemon. It's a lot of shine and bright, solid colors with very little shading or detail behind it- and shine with no shadow or lighting looks static and lifeless. Most of the new Dragon Ball stuff has suffered the same in one way or another; Battle of Gods (and the more recent Pokemon movies, to keep the analogy going) just throw in a little lighting, shadows and shading to cover it up. Generalizations, sure.
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:24 am

BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:The problem is cheap digital animation, say what you see with recent arcs of Pokemon. It's a lot of shine and bright, solid colors with very little shading or detail behind it- and shine with no shadow or lighting looks static and lifeless. Most of the new Dragon Ball stuff has suffered the same in one way or another; Battle of Gods (and the more recent Pokemon movies, to keep the analogy going) just throw in a little lighting, shadows and shading to cover it up. Generalizations, sure.
Pocket Monster the Series XY has looked incredible so far. There's a lot of effort placed into the timing of the drawings and the backgrounds. The first Pocket Monster TV series (Kantou and Jouto) had next to no budget or talent. Barring the awful writing of Best Wishes the Satoshi TV shows have been on the up-and-up since Diamond & Pearl, which had both awesome fights and writing. Fun fact: Studio Cockpit, which worked on Dragon Ball Z, works on Pocket Monster. Iwane Masa'aki, who worked on Studio Cockpit episodes of Dragon Ball Z, is an animation supervisor and key animator for Pocket Monster. These days he provides the best fight scenes in each new series. He also primarily provides the key animation for an entire episode himself.

The problem is cheap practices, though. Toei floats little to none of their talent towards their recent Dragon Ball projects, save for the occasional unchaining of Shida Naotoshi from the dungeon walls to let him work on Dragon Ball. Hosoda Masahiro's poor directing of Battle of Gods hasn't helped the perception from a few members about modern animation, but it's certainly possible to create incredible things. Toei can and has done it.
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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:06 am

VegettoEX wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:Could someone make a mock DBZ 2013 Blu-ray picture out of this or the Kai BD version? I'd like to see what the outcome may be.
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Post by Ajay » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:11 am

On a serious note, it'll probably be a less pixelated version of this.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by KingofWisdom » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:32 am

I have a feeling that the actual footage will look worse than these mock-ups (other than perhaps Mike's). I'll give FUNimation something; this certainly is like I've never experienced it before. :roll:
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I could see it looking something like this, but cropped and without grain. It has to have colors so bright that they're hard on the eyes.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by ect5150 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:14 am

ringworm128 wrote:
ect5150 wrote:You just don't see anything like the above anymore (at least I don't). The new stuff looks too clean - which can be good depending on what it is, but the newer/cleaner animation seems to be missing something to me.
Newer animation can still look good. I suggest you check out the Rebuild Evangelion movies, they look fantastic with incredible detail.
To be fair, maybe I need to.
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Post by PhoenixEX » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:43 am

I just hope that the picture doesn't cause me to lower my brightness setting, headaches, and is watchable.
I missed out on the Dragon Boxes and i'm not keen on spending 500+ for the show, especially with the Black Friday and Christmas shopping coming up. I already spent well over $800 for the PlayStation 4, Wii U, and a couple of games like that Super Mario 3D World (amazing game by the way). These Blu-ray sets are in my price range for sure.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Season One" Coming To Blu-ray (Updated 11

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:09 pm

Daisetsu wrote:One, that's not possible. Two, even if it were, why would they do that?
To give Dragon Ball Z Blu-ray 1080p Remaster a new experience. Kinda how like Kai did it, I loved Yamamoto's music.
AjayLikesGaming wrote:On a serious note, it'll probably be a less pixelated version of this.

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I gotta say I really like that 16x9 AR mock version.
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