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by genjosanzo8 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:45 am
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
This looks fantastic!
Yes and the colour of my color correction are not far than these cel one (cel are a little darker than my color correction)
i have a screen about what i mean by bright issue if you correct white... to have a white truly white you will have these kind of issue but if you remain very fvery few tint you don't loose detail.
even with after effect i have that problem
left is the dragon box, right a color correction with truly white
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by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:00 am
genjosanzo8 wrote:Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
This looks fantastic!
Yes and the colour of my color correction are not far than these cel one (cel are a little darker than my color correction)
i have a screen about what i mean by bright issue if you correct white... to have a white truly white you will have these kind of issue but if you remain very fvery few tint you don't loose detail.
even with after effect i have that problem
left is the dragon box, right a color correction with truly white
Keep up the good work, maybe one day you'll have success in creating a "perfect" pallet.
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by genjosanzo8 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:05 am
thanks but i don't think it is possible even for professionnal....tapes have degrade...even level set that have been said as "color corrected", have few tint.. i think that the only way is to use the same way as kai 1.0 have been done
for what i think (but i can be wrong): we can only reduce tint to minimal thing and approching color of original cels with the dragon box or record all re-runs in the better quality from animax or tokyo-mx airing of dragon ball, z, gt (which use 1st gen master) and just remove tint.
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by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:16 pm
The colors are a little washed, but it doesn't look all that bad by itself.
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by genjosanzo8 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:29 am
Not bad, i cannot really tell with just one screen (can you make one with a dark scene with lot of black to see?) grain are gone (i don't like it but it is not what matter) so you loose some details
a scene like that (it is my colour correction dragon box are darker than that you can compare
another screens of my version
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by clutchins » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:19 am
genjosanzo8 wrote:
Not bad, i cannot really tell with just one screen (can you make one with a dark scene with lot of black to see?) grain are gone (i don't like it but it is not what matter) so you loose some details
a scene like that (it is my colour correction dragon box are darker than that you can compare
another screens of my version
That final screen looks spot-on, genjo! Very natural colors coming through, no cast. Looks how it should be without too much subjective interference.
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:JacobYBM wrote: Original Thread Topic wrote:Did Dragon Ball ever motivate you to exercise?
No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.
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by ShadowBardock89 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:55 am
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:genjosanzo8 wrote:Metalwario64 wrote:I think that's too pale and desaturated.
like these cel?
This looks fantastic!
The coloring reminds me of the 2008 Jump Special, especially the orange on the gis.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=40715&start=20#p1439892
http://dba.bn-ent.net/character/barduck.html
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by genjosanzo8 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:25 pm
clutchins wrote:
That final screen looks spot-on, genjo! Very natural colors coming through, no cast. Looks how it should be without too much subjective interference.
Thanks!
ShadowBardock89 wrote:
The coloring reminds me of the 2008 Jump Special, especially the orange on the gis.
the colouring on the cell is the original one not a colour correction
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by jjgp1112 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:28 pm
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
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Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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by clutchins » Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:38 pm
I think the desaturated look is pretty good. I also think that Goku's undershirt should be a little brighter than its current navy-blue-going-on-black. Love the color of the sky.
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:JacobYBM wrote: Original Thread Topic wrote:Did Dragon Ball ever motivate you to exercise?
No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.
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by jjgp1112 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:06 pm
I tried that, but the problem is messing with the blue colors beyond hues creates some pretty bad artifacting whenever someone has aura around them.
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by Metalwario64 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:25 pm
Those are quite good colors. Piccolo's skin is spot on to the cels!
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by genjosanzo8 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:12 am
jjgp1112 wrote:I tried that, but the problem is messing with the blue colors beyond hues creates some pretty bad artifacting whenever someone has aura around them.
good work
did you use color mill filter? or wich one?
my result is this one
for your blue have you try to raise grey in your level plugin from 1.101?
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by jjgp1112 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:26 pm
I just balanced the whites and blacks and used the hue/saturation/intensity filter to alter each color individually.
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by genjosanzo8 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:48 pm
jjgp1112 wrote:I just balanced the whites and blacks and used the hue/saturation/intensity filter to alter each color individually.
okay, thanks i use hue/saturation/intensity too and CMYK film color for some color and white balance for white.... what filter did you use to alter black and white?
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by jjgp1112 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:41 pm
genjosanzo8 wrote:jjgp1112 wrote:I just balanced the whites and blacks and used the hue/saturation/intensity filter to alter each color individually.
okay, thanks i use hue/saturation/intensity too and CMYK film color for some color and white balance for white.... what filter did you use to alter black and white?
Gradation Curves. I run everything by Gimp first, though
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
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Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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by genjosanzo8 » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:01 am
jjgp1112 wrote:genjosanzo8 wrote:jjgp1112 wrote:I just balanced the whites and blacks and used the hue/saturation/intensity filter to alter each color individually.
okay, thanks i use hue/saturation/intensity too and CMYK film color for some color and white balance for white.... what filter did you use to alter black and white?
Gradation Curves. I run everything by Gimp first, though
okay thanks i was wondering if a filter that i haven't can make the things with the black too
if i can give you two advice :
- watch for the scene like the one on the top of this page, for the bright and dark scene to see if you didn't loose details, it is sometimes far good in all episode but in the scene like that you loose a lot of things..
- goku's gi is red and become orange when he is in super saiyajin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IYIEt-_yQ0
watch at 6:36 , it is the old master
except this two things it is a really good work keep this way on
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by genjosanzo8 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:36 am
I'll need some help...did someone with avisynth have beat the chroma bleeding in dragon box? in these shot uncorrect (just some grain removal and an upscale), we can see red where i make arrow
can someone help me to beat this thing?
thanks