Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by lansing » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:22 am

genjosanzo8 wrote:I'll need some help...did someone with avisynth have beat the chroma bleeding in dragon box? in these shot uncorrect (just some grain removal and an upscale), we can see red where i make arrow

can someone help me to beat this thing?
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that's not chroma bleeding, that's just a lineart with a red color

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Post by genjosanzo8 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:30 am

thanks but the guy which talk about it (and i cannot contact him to ask how he did it) say it was chroma bleeding and he did the things here is a comparison with large zoom to talk about it
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/189673

the dbox had red pixels but his are natural without desaturation or change in luma, color, levels, so i was wondering how he did that, he says that all episode he see have this

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by lansing » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:49 am

lol everything will look chroma bleeding if you're to zoom it 1000%

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by genjosanzo8 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:31 am

ok like he did it i was thinking it was possible to get rid of it ;) thanks

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by ect5150 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:11 pm

genjosanzo8 wrote:I'll need some help...did someone with avisynth have beat the chroma bleeding in dragon box? in these shot uncorrect (just some grain removal and an upscale), we can see red where i make arrow
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
can someone help me to beat this thing?
thanks
Are you referring to the tiny pieces where Goku's skin color somewhat "bleeds" over into grey color of the car? Those small block (stair stepping effect) tends to be an issue on the MPEG2 compression. There isn't a great solution for this (if we are talking about the same thing here). Any correction for this I've ever seen tends to blur the entire image - so there is a cost to doing anything about it here. Anytime I've attempted to clean issues like this up, it always affects the rest of the image in a negative enough way for myself that I just personally leave it alone.
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by genjosanzo8 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:36 pm

i talk about this kind of thing a guy doing (there is no color correction , only correct this)

http://screenshotcomparison.com/compari ... /picture:1

just watch goku's arm in the test the red is gone, there is no detail loss it is even sharpen

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by ect5150 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:08 pm

genjosanzo8 wrote:i talk about this kind of thing a guy doing (there is no color correction , only correct this)

http://screenshotcomparison.com/compari ... /picture:1

just watch goku's arm in the test the red is gone, there is no detail loss it is even sharpen
Ah! Looks like some dering filter. You might want to check out some filters for AVISynth then. I've never used them much personally.
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by genjosanzo8 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:07 am

thanks a lot :) i will try this

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by genjosanzo8 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:55 am

all filter i try on your list didn't touch to this thing so if someone know how to correct it
i will be very happy to have help with that

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by sangofe » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:41 am

Has anyone here color corrected the Dragon Ball GT Dragon Box?

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Post by genjosanzo8 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:27 am

Not me, i have to correct all Dragon Ball dvd issues before and with time encode etc....i think it will take me month or years before i do it

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Post by genjosanzo8 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:31 am

Did someone obtain this kind of result? i work a lot to use avisynth correctly and did good correction and i use smdegrain but i haven't this kind of natural sharpeness without grain with avisynth
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by lansing » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:05 pm

he just darkened the line

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Post by genjosanzo8 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:48 pm

thanks :) i didn't think this can be done

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by ect5150 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:35 pm

genjosanzo8 wrote:thanks :) i didn't think this can be done
Sorry about the list failing for you - you might have to search outside of it.

For the line darkening, a popular filter for a while was called mftoon. You have to adjust the settings carefully though as it sharpens the image as well and sometimes makes the dark lines thinner as well (as can be seen here).
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by genjosanzo8 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:42 am

Thanks Great, after some deep research i choose to use LimitedSharpenFaster default options fit what i was searching to do
comparison between all sharpen option
[spoiler]dbox original
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just degrain without detail loss
Image
my final sharpen (i found this one more natural)
Image
mftoon 50
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128
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default mftoon
Image[/spoiler]


here a sample of my color correction +degrain+sharpening of episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKwyrcT ... e=youtu.be

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by thejeremymenace » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:30 pm

Your video looks similar to the first 13 eps of the Blue Bricks, which in my opinion was a fine remaster if not for the zooming. Looks good!

Would you mind posting your Avisynth scripts? I'd like to play with these filters myself.
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by genjosanzo8 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:41 pm

check your pm

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by genjosanzo8 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:57 am

sharp max color corrected
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pK4pv7gtjc
the same in HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP36t6_Wtrg

an editing audio of dbz 213 to clear voice
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vBdBGm0RNN

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Bruma rabu » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:57 pm

Has anybody tried color correcting the funi blu ray movies or are they a lost cause. I got a few and wanted to try color correcting them but don't know if it's worth the effort.
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