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DragonBallKing wrote:I've heard this said before but it might be unpopular: I love all of Nozowa's roles except Bardock and I think that Chiba should have voiced him, so that way he looks like Goku but sounds like Raditz since his personality is closer to Raditz.
Funny that you mentioned, but the brazilian portuguese dub is exactly like that: Raditz VA is the same who dubs Bardock and it feels better for the same reasons you listed, but I have no problems with Nozawa Bardock, I can't picture Chiba doing it
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
DragonBallKing wrote:I've heard this said before but it might be unpopular: I love all of Nozowa's roles except Bardock and I think that Chiba should have voiced him, so that way he looks like Goku but sounds like Raditz since his personality is closer to Raditz.
Funny that you mentioned, but the brazilian portuguese dub is exactly like that: Raditz VA is the same who dubs Bardock and it feels better for the same reasons you listed, but I have no problems with Nozawa Bardock, I can't picture Chiba doing it
Given that Chiba has played serious roles, I can easily see him playing Bardock.
"It was deemed to be too awesome." - Scott McNeil on Dragon Ball Kai not being aired yet in Canada.
DragonBallKing wrote:I've heard this said before but it might be unpopular: I love all of Nozowa's roles except Bardock and I think that Chiba should have voiced him, so that way he looks like Goku but sounds like Raditz since his personality is closer to Raditz.
Funny that you mentioned, but the brazilian portuguese dub is exactly like that: Raditz VA is the same who dubs Bardock and it feels better for the same reasons you listed, but I have no problems with Nozawa Bardock, I can't picture Chiba doing it
Given that Chiba has played serious roles, I can easily see him playing Bardock.
Noah wrote:
Funny that you mentioned, but the brazilian portuguese dub is exactly like that: Raditz VA is the same who dubs Bardock and it feels better for the same reasons you listed, but I have no problems with Nozawa Bardock, I can't picture Chiba doing it
Given that Chiba has played serious roles, I can easily see him playing Bardock.
It actually sounds very fitting and since Nozawa already voices Gokū and his sons, if Bardock was voiced by Chibha it would have made sense that Bardock's aggressive Saiyan genes were passed on to Raditz.
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For DBZ Kai and two new Movies I like both Dub and Sub. I Prefer Shunsuke Kikuchi Soundtracks over All other Composers.
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Noah wrote:
Funny that you mentioned, but the brazilian portuguese dub is exactly like that: Raditz VA is the same who dubs Bardock and it feels better for the same reasons you listed, but I have no problems with Nozawa Bardock, I can't picture Chiba doing it
Given that Chiba has played serious roles, I can easily see him playing Bardock.
Wrath of the Dragon was canon until Bulma stated in Super she didn't know how to make a time machine.
DBZ Movie 9 to me is the only DBZ movie that fits now. The only error in DBZ Movie 9 that I can think of is that Goten is nowhere to be seen or mention. I guess Chi Chi had someone like Gyumao (Ox King) to look after him.
Watanabe is not a bad Chi Chi, yeah sure she sounds like a raging housewife nowadays because both Chi Chi and the actress are old now. But back in the original run of Z she sounded a lot like Shou, but just a bit older. I honestly could not tell the difference if I didn't look it up. She was still able to sound cute and sweet when the moment required it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzD7M7P_SvE
DragonBallKing wrote:Watanabe is not a bad Chi Chi, yeah sure she sounds like a raging housewife nowadays because both Chi Chi and the actress are old now. But back in the original run of Z she sounded a lot like Shou, but just a bit older. I honestly could not tell the difference if I didn't look it up. She was still able to sound cute and sweet when the moment required it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzD7M7P_SvE
Agreed, she was the most closest voice to Sho's Chi Chi and the main thing is her chi chi spoke just like Sho's chi chi with a Hick Tone which other dub voices of her completly forget.
I prefer Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, DB/Z/GT Movies, Dragon Ball Super and Dragon Ball GT in Japanese.
For DBZ Kai and two new Movies I like both Dub and Sub. I Prefer Shunsuke Kikuchi Soundtracks over All other Composers.
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DragonBallKing wrote:Watanabe is not a bad Chi Chi, yeah sure she sounds like a raging housewife nowadays because both Chi Chi and the actress are old now. But back in the original run of Z she sounded a lot like Shou, but just a bit older. I honestly could not tell the difference if I didn't look it up. She was still able to sound cute and sweet when the moment required it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzD7M7P_SvE
Maybe I underestimated her when I said that she lacked something Sho had.
"It was deemed to be too awesome." - Scott McNeil on Dragon Ball Kai not being aired yet in Canada.
DragonBallKing wrote:Watanabe is not a bad Chi Chi, yeah sure she sounds like a raging housewife nowadays because both Chi Chi and the actress are old now. But back in the original run of Z she sounded a lot like Shou, but just a bit older. I honestly could not tell the difference if I didn't look it up. She was still able to sound cute and sweet when the moment required it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzD7M7P_SvE
Maybe I underestimated her when I said that she lacked something Sho had.
Sho had a little more cuter and Childish Tone of speaking compared to Watanabe.
I prefer Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, DB/Z/GT Movies, Dragon Ball Super and Dragon Ball GT in Japanese.
For DBZ Kai and two new Movies I like both Dub and Sub. I Prefer Shunsuke Kikuchi Soundtracks over All other Composers.
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Wrath of the Dragon was canon until Bulma stated in Super she didn't know how to make a time machine.
I'd say the whole canon/non-canon dispute is kind of unnecessary, it's up to everyone to decide which series do they like or don't like and create their very own, subjective experience by that. If anything, THAT's an unpopular opinion.
The issue of canon isn't about preference. We can watch whatever we want and believe whatever we want works better for the story, but canon is simply a matter of what the powers that be consider to be in continuity, and the powers that be ain't the fans.
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ABED wrote:The issue of canon isn't about preference. We can watch whatever we want and believe whatever we want works better for the story, but canon is simply a matter of what the powers that be consider to be in continuity, and the powers that be ain't the fans.
And why is it so important what's canon and what isn't? It's not like it affects either the popularity or the amount of appearance of a character. Broly is (by today's standard) non-canon, yet he's one of the most recurring characters by far in the series.
And speaking of power levels... they are and always were bullshit.
ABED wrote:The issue of canon isn't about preference. We can watch whatever we want and believe whatever we want works better for the story, but canon is simply a matter of what the powers that be consider to be in continuity, and the powers that be ain't the fans.
And why is it so important what's canon and what isn't? It's not like it affects either the popularity or the amount of appearance of a character. Broly is (by today's standard) non-canon, yet he's one of the most recurring characters by far in the series.
And speaking of power levels... they are and always were bullshit.
People do put more importance on it than I think they should, but it is something I think is interesting - what is canon and not.
Broly's appearances are certainly high profile, but in terms of screen time, he doesn't have as much screen time as say someone like Zarbon.
The biggest truths aren't original. The truth is ketchup. It's Jim Belushi. Its job isn't to blow our minds. It's to be within reach.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretzky" - Michael Scott
Happiness is climate, not weather.
I don't know how popular opinion is this but I personally think Nozawa's Teen/Adult Gohan has actually improved specially in Kai and Super.
I prefer Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, DB/Z/GT Movies, Dragon Ball Super and Dragon Ball GT in Japanese.
For DBZ Kai and two new Movies I like both Dub and Sub. I Prefer Shunsuke Kikuchi Soundtracks over All other Composers.
My MAL profile : https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ripper_30
Ripper 30 wrote:I don't know how popular opinion is this but I personally think Nozawa's Teen/Adult Gohan has actually improved specially in Kai and Super.
I don't think her voice changed that much for Kai and Super. It has stayed the same.
"It was deemed to be too awesome." - Scott McNeil on Dragon Ball Kai not being aired yet in Canada.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
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