Inconsistencies created by filler

[DBZAOTA482]

" I know that Freeza destroyed the Saiyan Race "

Or was that a dub error?

Dub error. In the subbed version, it fits with the canon just fine. Nappa brings up the rumors, and Vegeta simply says "I don't care if he did". It all comes together when Dodoria confirms the rumors.

[RocktheDragon]

Yesterday I came across the one dragon ball inconsistency in episode 33 of the original Dragon Ball anime. It was quite amusing to see Kame-Senin's explanation in the episode and I loved every second of it! I wonder who decided to come up with this (inconsistent) origin of the dragon balls?

[ABED]

In the pendulum room episode, it looks like Planet Vegeta is war torn, but in the Bardock special, it's an advanced technological society. Granted, it could just be a different part of the planet, but I think the war torn part is a more accurate depiction of what Vegeta would be like. They don't have the qualities necessary for an advanced civilization. They aren't civilized.

[TheGmGoken]

In the pendulum room episode, it looks like Planet Vegeta is war torn, but in the Bardock special, it's an advanced technological society. Granted, it could just be a different part of the planet, but I think the war torn part is a more accurate depiction of what Vegeta would be like. They don't have the qualities necessary for an advanced civilization. They aren't civilized.

Since when does the requirement for an civilization in necessary for Anime? Besides Freeza could had some influence of the tech they had there.

[Polyphase Avatron]

It was never stated that Gohan can't go SSj after turning mystic anyways. Another one created by filler is that the whole world knew about Nappa and Vegeta, but no one seem to recognize Vegeta during the Cell Games or the 25th Tenkachi Budokai. Won't people point out saying "Hey he looks like the same evil Alien invader from a few years back! Why he is helping to save the Earth then destroy it like Cell?!".

The general populace of DB Earth have very short memory spans.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Another one I remember is that Roshi's turtle once had its power level read with a scouter and came to be like 0.0001 or something, then in a filler episode featuring Krillin's girlfriend Maron, the turtle beat up a bunch of thugs, which would make no sense as the average human (farmer's) PL was 5.

Unless the turtle knows how to suppress his power...

[ABED]

Since when does the requirement for an civilization in necessary for Anime?

Not sure what your question is about.

[UltimateHammerBro]

In the pendulum room episode, it looks like Planet Vegeta is war torn, but in the Bardock special, it's an advanced technological society. Granted, it could just be a different part of the planet, but I think the war torn part is a more accurate depiction of what Vegeta would be like. They don't have the qualities necessary for an advanced civilization. They aren't civilized.

It's possible that the entire pendulum room was created from their ideas about the Saiyans and Planet Vegeta, and not being real in any way.
However, if they really went into a "projection" of how the planet was a hundred years ago, it doesn't have to be a plothole. If we take the fact that both Saiyans and Tsufurs lived in the planet as canon, we could think that the planet Vegeta we see is in the middle of a war that won't end until decades later. After winning the war thanks to King Vegeta, they could have blasted off into space (if they didn't come from space in the first place, as some OVAs claim) and come into contact with Freeza, who would have given them technology. The flashback episode in DBZ depicts primitive Saiyans contacting an alien race while wearing a primitive version of their suits (and the pendulum room episode shows the two illusion Saiyans in full armor), which they supposedly didn't get until meeting Freeza. However, I think that's a minor detail.

Another one I remember is that Roshi's turtle once had its power level read with a scouter and came to be like 0.0001 or something, then in a filler episode featuring Krillin's girlfriend Maron, the turtle beat up a bunch of thugs, which would make no sense as the average human (farmer's) PL was 5.

Unless the turtle knows how to suppress his power...

I like to think that he can supress his power.

[TheGmGoken]

Since when does the requirement for an civilization in necessary for Anime?

Not sure what your question is about.

When does the requirement for a civilization. Well...an advance one applied to Anime? I'm sure in Anime and especially DBZ the standers are different.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I like to think that he can supress his power.

Maybe, although I vaguely recall that he was disappointed/upset at having such a low PL.

[ABED]

Since when does the requirement for an civilization in necessary for Anime?

Not sure what your question is about.

When does the requirement for a civilization. Well...an advance one applied to Anime? I'm sure in Anime and especially DBZ the standers are different.

I wasn't referring to the requirements in anime. I don't think writers think of something like that. My point was that I think a war torn Vegeta is a better interpretation of what Vegeta would be like.

[Darknat]

In the pendulum room episode, it looks like Planet Vegeta is war torn, but in the Bardock special, it's an advanced technological society. Granted, it could just be a different part of the planet, but I think the war torn part is a more accurate depiction of what Vegeta would be like. They don't have the qualities necessary for an advanced civilization. They aren't civilized.

It's possible that the entire pendulum room was created from their ideas about the Saiyans and Planet Vegeta, and not being real in any way.
However, if they really went into a "projection" of how the planet was a hundred years ago, it doesn't have to be a plothole. If we take the fact that both Saiyans and Tsufurs lived in the planet as canon, we could think that the planet Vegeta we see is in the middle of a war that won't end until decades later. After winning the war thanks to King Vegeta, they could have blasted off into space (if they didn't come from space in the first place, as some OVAs claim) and come into contact with Freeza, who would have given them technology. The flashback episode in DBZ depicts primitive Saiyans contacting an alien race while wearing a primitive version of their suits (and the pendulum room episode shows the two illusion Saiyans in full armor), which they supposedly didn't get until meeting Freeza. However, I think that's a minor detail.

In the timeline there is a year that says there were civil unrest or civil wars among the saiyans. So it's probably to address the events of that particular episode.

[TheGmGoken]

I haven't seen this one mentioned yet but wasn't Goku space pod near where Piccolo and Gohan trained in filler? Which for some odd reason turn Gohan into an ape due to an Moon image.

[DBZAOTA482]

I haven't seen this one mentioned yet but wasn't Goku space pod near where Piccolo and Gohan trained in filler? Which for some odd reason turn Gohan into an ape due to an Moon image.

Beat ya to it.

[TheGmGoken]

http://youtu.be/zFwmAkHBcfA?t=2m11s

^ Trunks's flashback filler had Future Bulma dead.

[TTC817]

In the pendulum room episode, it looks like Planet Vegeta is war torn, but in the Bardock special, it's an advanced technological society. Granted, it could just be a different part of the planet, but I think the war torn part is a more accurate depiction of what Vegeta would be like. They don't have the qualities necessary for an advanced civilization. They aren't civilized.

It isn't Planet Vegeta. At no point in the original Japanese subtitled version do they say that this is Planet Vegeta. Any reference to that being the planet they are on is dub only and not canon. It is either another world the Saiyans were fighting on to conquer for Frieza, or simply an illusionary planet that didn't exist, for the sake of Kami giving them a chance to fight Saiyans.

[Darknat]

In the pendulum room episode, it looks like Planet Vegeta is war torn, but in the Bardock special, it's an advanced technological society. Granted, it could just be a different part of the planet, but I think the war torn part is a more accurate depiction of what Vegeta would be like. They don't have the qualities necessary for an advanced civilization. They aren't civilized.

It isn't Planet Vegeta. At no point in the original Japanese subtitled version do they say that this is Planet Vegeta. Any reference to that being the planet they are on is dub only and not canon. It is either another world the Saiyans were fighting on to conquer for Freeza, or simply an illusionary planet that didn't exist, for the sake of Kami giving them a chance to fight Saiyans.

Well... it had saiyan statues on it. And as I said before, there was somekind of civil war/unrest in Planet Vegeta.

[FortuneSSJ]

When I read the title, it came to my mind right away the filler where Yamcha Tien and Chaozu beat the Ginyu force on Kaio-sama Planet.
Even knowing Vegeta got 2 power boosts after his loss agaisnt Recoome, this filler still makes him look ridiculous.

[RandomGuy96]

When I read the title, it came to my mind right away the filler where Yamcha Tenshinhan and Chaozu beat the Ginyu force on Kaio-sama Planet.
Even knowing Vegeta got 2 power boosts after his loss agaisnt Recoome, this filler still makes him look ridiculous.

It's not really an inconcistency. Piccolo was implied to get a massive boost from a week of the same training, and V-Jump supports such a boost for the humans on the page where it gives power levels for post-zenkai Vegeta, Gohan, Krillin, and 1st form Freeza.

[Kid Buu]

Training gains were never consistent anyway, so I don't mind it. I mean, let Chaotzu have one damn victory in this whole thing.