Who did it better (SUB vs. DUB)

SSJ God Gogeta · Post by **SSJ God Gogeta** » Tue May 12, 2015 6:00 pm

If you're like me you love both the Japanese and English dub equally. However, there are some Japanese VA's that I think do a better job voicing a character than their dub counterpart and vice versa. I made this thread because I want to know who you guys think voiced their character better. I'm both curious and excited to see what your guys opinions are.

I myself will add my list once I've heard what you fine people have to say.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Tue May 12, 2015 6:08 pm

I'm having an extremely hard time thinking of a single English dub voice that wasn't terribly miscast and/or terribly acted. Usually both. Let's not pretend this was anything other than a cheap, bottom-barrel dub here.

What's up with all these "what did the English dub not suck at here? What did the English dub not suck at there?" threads lately, anyway? It's getting a bit overwhelming.

B · Post by B » Tue May 12, 2015 6:12 pm

It took me ten minutes to come up with this and I may not even actually believe it, but Chris Sabat as Reacoom is better than Seiji Sasaki. More or less what Adamant said.

Expecting people to chime in with Goku, Freeza, Babidi, and Uranai Baba.

Fionordequester · Post by **Fionordequester** » Tue May 12, 2015 6:24 pm

Adamant wrote:What's up with all these "what did the English dub not suck at here? What did the English dub not suck at there?" threads lately, anyway? It's getting a bit overwhelming.

Welcome to my world

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Truhan · Post by **Truhan** » Tue May 12, 2015 6:39 pm

I like the Portuguese Dub (from Portugal), because it helped turn DBZ into a national product that is still appreciated today (the subbed Kai episodes bombed), with all the pop culture references and gags.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Tue May 12, 2015 6:41 pm

Both did a great job at bringing the characters to life but I think the English dub cast fits the characters better.

Puto · Post by **Puto** » Tue May 12, 2015 6:42 pm

Adamant wrote:I'm having an extremely hard time thinking of a single English dub voice that wasn't terribly miscast and/or terribly acted.

Cell, though outdoing Norio Wakamoto is just not humanly possible.

And Mr Satan too, I guess. FUNimation have always been good at doing gag characters.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Tue May 12, 2015 6:59 pm

Nothing really compares to the original JPN VA cast for DB or Z. But I will say that Chris Ayres does a magnificent Freeza, Sabat has really honed his Vegeta and Piccolo, Schemmel's Goku has evolved brilliantly so much over the years and Dameon Clarke's Cell since Kai has been brilliant.

Fionordequester · Post by **Fionordequester** » Tue May 12, 2015 7:01 pm

Anyways, my personal list...

English Performances I Prefer...
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Bardock (I hate how they had Nozawa voicing him despite them being totally different characters. Plus, Sonny Strait is really good as Bardock)

Goku (Nozawa is awesome at the ACTING part...but I think Schemmel has the more fitting voice. Plus, Schemmel is much better at screaming)

Bulma (only Monica Rial though)

Gohan (both child and adult Gohan. It's...kind of distracting to hear Gohan and Goku having essentially the same voice in Japanese, just with different inflections, and a minor pitch difference)

Krillin (Japanese Krillin is voiced by a woman...and unlike Japanese Goku, it's pretty obvious that Krillin is voiced by a woman).

Raditz

Vegeta

Frieza (only Chris Ayres though. Linda Young was kind of a pain to listen to at times, even if she did do a great job as Genkai)

Android #17

Android #18 (only Meredith McCoy though. Laura Bailey is essentially just an imitation of the Japanese voice)

Cell (aside from Semi-Perfect Cell. I will admit that Norio gave much better acting there, if only because of how forced Dameon sounded)

Mr. Satan/Hercule

Babidi

Super Buu (Japanese actor sounded kind of generic, while Justin Cook is just SO good at emoting, as he proved with Yusuke)

Japanese Performances I Prefer...
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Chi-Chi (I really wish Cynthia Cranz used a bit more of her Botan performance in her Chi-Chi performance. She just sounds too unreasonably angry there.)

Yamcha

Tien (English Tien always seems to sound agitated and nervous or something)

Nappa

Recoome

Ginyu

Trunks (Adult Trunks has that rasp from Eric Vale, and Child Trunks is voiced by a woman in the English version. So kudos to Japanese Trunks for having a male who's able to voice for both Child AND Adult Trunks!)

Fat Buu (English Fat Buu is kind of annoying to listen to sometimes)

Bullza · Post by **Bullza** » Tue May 12, 2015 7:58 pm

Overall the dub was much better.

Captain Sauza · Post by **Captain Sauza** » Tue May 12, 2015 8:14 pm

If we're counting movies, I think Andrew Chandler's Cooler was much more fitting than Ryusei Nakao's.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Tue May 12, 2015 8:44 pm

Korean Goten and Kara Edwards are much better than Noza
WA's Son Goten. By default the Korean and English Gotenks was better.

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Tue May 12, 2015 9:05 pm

With rare exceptions, the original is better.

ParkerAL · Post by **ParkerAL** » Tue May 12, 2015 10:46 pm

I'd argue Raditz has a much more distinct voice in Funimation's dub. It helps that Justin Cook started out as a pretty decent actor compared to his fellow cast members. I also have a soft spot for Bardock's dub voice, though Sonny Strait's delivery in TV special is a little rough around the edges.

songohan619 · Post by **songohan619** » Wed May 13, 2015 6:25 am

Adamant wrote:I'm having an extremely hard time thinking of a single English dub voice that wasn't terribly miscast and/or terribly acted. Usually both. Let's not pretend this was anything other than a cheap, bottom-barrel dub here.

What's up with all these "what did the English dub not suck at here? What did the English dub not suck at there?" threads lately, anyway? It's getting a bit overwhelming.

Well, no. I agree that most of the Japanese VA`s does a better job than the US cast, but every single English VA was NOT terribly miscast and/or terribly acted. Some, yes, but not every one! That is just ignorant!

Do you think Dameon Clarke as Cell, Vic Mignogna as Broly, Chris Ayers as Freeza, Chuck Huber as 17, Meredith McCoy as 18, Chris Sabat as Yamcha, Sonny Strait as Krillin, Sean Schemmel as Goku, Eric Vale as Trunks, Justin Cook as Buu, Jason Douglas as Beerus, Brina Palencia as Chaotzu, Ian Sinclair as Whis and Brice Armstrong as Ginyu are horrible choices? Do you think every one of these actors are horrible actors, and were terribly miscast? Because that`s what you just said.

Vegitofaxx · Post by **Vegitofaxx** » Wed May 13, 2015 5:36 pm

Nowadays, i prefer the sub for the old series. But i love the voices in the newer movies(especially Beerus) and mostly watch them in English. Though I do feel they should recast Kaio-Sama. Sean's awesome, but that isn't how Kaio's supposed to sound

fadeddreams5 · Post by **fadeddreams5** » Wed May 13, 2015 5:52 pm

I like the VAs in Kai better than all the Japanese ones, tbh.

Z was them starting out. I still prefer a lot of the voices, but there's no denying that they simply were not as refined as they are now, let alone the Japanese cast. Also, the dialogue they had to deal with was pretty bad, especially Frieza.

Vegitofaxx · Post by **Vegitofaxx** » Wed May 13, 2015 6:02 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:I like the VAs in Kai better than all the Japanese ones, tbh.

Z was them starting out. I still prefer a lot of the voices, but there's no denying that they simply were not as refined as they are now, let alone the Japanese cast. Also, the dialogue they had to deal with was pretty bad, especially Freeza.

"Pop goes the weasel....""

Argh, ma dick....

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Wed May 13, 2015 6:20 pm

ParkerAL wrote:I'd argue Raditz has a much more distinct voice in Funimation's dub. It helps that Justin Cook started out as a pretty decent actor compared to his fellow cast members. I also have a soft spot for Bardock's dub voice, though Sonny Strait's delivery in TV special is a little rough around the edges.

I don't agree on any count. Shigeru Chiba has a very distinct voice and Cook is an awful actor. Jason Grey Stanford was far better as dub actors go. If you've ever seen Monk, Grey plays Randy.

SpiritBombTriumphant · Post by **SpiritBombTriumphant** » Thu May 14, 2015 1:29 am

sintzu wrote:Both did a great job at bringing the characters to life but I think the English dub cast fits the characters better.

Indeed. Listening to any of the Japanese cast try grunting (such as when Goku is about to fire the Warp Kamehameha at Cell) is painful. It sounds like they're choking on their own blood in their deathbed. FUNimation got it right with the grunts of effort Goku had in that scene right before Cell yells "No!"

I do like Masako Nozawa though. Awesome lady. If feminists were smart, she would be their idol.

Kanzenshuu

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