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by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:46 pm
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:precita wrote:^ I also imagine because a lot of fans never watched Dragonball for whatever reason in the U.S., and Yamcha is pretty awesome the whole way through. Even when Yamcha loses in the tournaments he always puts up a fantastic fight before going down.
Yamcha Vs Tenshinhan in the tournament is still one of the best fights in the series.
Yeah,unfortunatly,majority of the U.S fanbase never watched the Original DB,I saw a lot of people putting Videl stronger than Chi Chi or Satan being the strongest non-Ki user.
Satan I understand but I don't see how anyone with the slightest clue of what they're talking about would think Videl is stronger than Chi-Chi. Pure bias (or ignoarance), I tell you... that brings my blood to a boil. Videl would get eaten alive (both figuratively and literally) in Early Dragon Ball. BoDB GOku would kick her ass. BoDB Krillin would kick her ass. BoDB Yamcha would kick her ass. BoDB Chi-Chi... could probably kick her ass.
Doesn't matter though, Yajirobe (true strongest non-ki user) stomps all three at once.
fadeddreams5 wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about
your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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by Soppa Saia People » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:52 pm
Kuririn Fan wrote:soppa saia people wrote:MCDaveG wrote:
Wouldn't that be Chaozu or Krillin ?
No.
Yeah it would, there the two that die the most.
You got your quotes mixed up.
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by precita » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:26 pm
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Yeah,unfortunatly,majority of the U.S fanbase never watched the Original DB,I saw a lot of people putting Videl stronger than Chi Chi or Satan being the strongest non-Ki use
Satan I understand but I don't see how anyone with the slightest clue of what they're talking about would think Videl is stronger than Chi-Chi. Pure bias (or ignoarance), I tell you... that brings my blood to a boil. Videl would get eaten alive (both figuratively and literally) in Early Dragon Ball. BoDB GOku would kick her ass. BoDB Krillin would kick her ass. BoDB Yamcha would kick her ass. BoDB Chi-Chi... could probably kick her ass.
Doesn't matter though, Yajirobe (true strongest non-ki user) stomps all three at once.
Its actually weird how much weaker the regular human fighters were after Dragonball. Even characters like Nam, King Choppa, General Blue, Mercenary Tao would completely destroy Mr. Satan, Videl, etc.
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by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:38 pm
precita wrote:DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Yeah,unfortunatly,majority of the U.S fanbase never watched the Original DB,I saw a lot of people putting Videl stronger than Chi Chi or Satan being the strongest non-Ki use
Satan I understand but I don't see how anyone with the slightest clue of what they're talking about would think Videl is stronger than Chi-Chi. Pure bias (or ignoarance), I tell you... that brings my blood to a boil. Videl would get eaten alive (both figuratively and literally) in Early Dragon Ball. BoDB GOku would kick her ass. BoDB Krillin would kick her ass. BoDB Yamcha would kick her ass. BoDB Chi-Chi... could probably kick her ass.
Doesn't matter though, Yajirobe (true strongest non-ki user) stomps all three at once.
Its actually weird how much weaker the regular human fighters were after Dragonball. Even characters like Nam, King Choppa, General Blue, Mercenary Tao would completely destroy Mr. Satan, Videl, etc.
Commercialism.
fadeddreams5 wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am
I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about
your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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by Kuririn Fan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:18 pm
Kuririn Fan wrote:soppa saia people wrote:MCDaveG wrote:
Wouldn't that be Chaozu or Krillin ?
Yeah it would, there the two that die the most.
You got your quotes mixed up.
Lmao, i was saying - Kuririn is da best.
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by precita » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:10 pm
Its actually weird that Yamcha only died twice in the series, and the second time was just cause Buu blew up the entire Earth.
He managed to survive all of Dragonball, died for the first time in the Saiyan arc, didn't die when Dr. Gero bust through his chest in the Cell arc, and survived till Buu blew up the planet.
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by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:21 pm
precita wrote:Its actually weird that Yamcha only died twice in the series, and the second time was just cause Buu blew up the entire Earth.
He managed to survive all of Dragonball, died for the first time in the Saiyan arc, didn't die when Dr. Gero bust through his chest in the Cell arc, and survived till Buu blew up the planet.
Yamcha died when Buu ate him along with Krillin, 18, and all the others after escaping the RoSaT, not when he blew up the Earth.
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by Gog » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:56 pm
Well he got the baseball episode which is the best episode super has ever done and as a whole he's more respectfully treated when he's in Toei's grasp. So I'd imagine that Toei likes Yamcha. At least more so than Toriyama.
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by floofychan333 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:56 pm
Either they just really like having him in filler or they feel sorry for him because he's been screwed over so many time by Akira Toriyama.
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by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:32 pm
Well, since they did that baseball filler episode, the fights with Recoome and Olibu and Pikkon, then yes.
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by Israelite Wolfman » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:54 am
8000 Saiyan wrote:Well, since they did that baseball filler episode, the fights with Recoome and Olibu and WINGED GORILLA, then yes.
Yamcha also fought against Kid Buu, he and Krillin were depicted to be the ones who managed to stand on their feet the longest against the crazed Majin. Also
scenes like this in the original Japanese dub shows no wimpy side to Yamcha (the Funimation dub have him crying in his mind) even when struggling to maintain 300 times Earth's Gravity.
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by RehBeh » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:59 am
Israelite Wolfman wrote:
Yamcha also fought against Kid Buu, he and Krillin were depicted to be the ones who managed to stand on their feet the longest against the crazed Majin. Also
scenes like this in the original Japanese dub shows no wimpy side to Yamcha (the Funimation dub have him crying in his mind) even when struggling to maintain 300 times Earth's Gravity.
This was just filler+they did nothing to Boo when he wasn't even trying.
GT wasn't that bad
DBZ Macky wrote:RehBeh wrote:ekrolo2 wrote:
He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought
he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.
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by Israelite Wolfman » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:12 am
RehBeh wrote:Israelite Wolfman wrote:
Yamcha also fought against Kid Buu, he and Krillin were depicted to be the ones who managed to stand on their feet the longest against the crazed Majin. Also
scenes like this in the original Japanese dub shows no wimpy side to Yamcha (the Funimation dub have him crying in his mind) even when struggling to maintain 300 times Earth's Gravity.
This was just filler+they did nothing to Boo when he wasn't even trying.
It doesn't matter if it was filler or not, it happened? Yes, period. The Kid Buu fight came to show some honoring to Humans, having Krillin & Yamcha the last fighters standing on their feet while even Pikkon is fainted is not something that you see everyday.
Dammit Toei, couldn't you fixed Resurrection 'F' while adapting the heavily criticized movie into Dragon Ball Super arc? Due to that people now believe Roshi, who's even weaker than Chiaotzu, is "stronger than Yamcha"... and what he does all day? fapping! Toriyama have no clue about his own franchise, but you who animated all these billions of DB/Z/GT frames should have known better when it comes to your work. It's not too late, you can still add them to the existing arc and close this issue, how much will it cost you? 5000 $ max? you'll have it all back and much more with Blu Rays and DVD sales in no-time!
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by RehBeh » Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:56 am
Israelite Wolfman wrote:
It doesn't matter if it was filler or not, it happened? Yes, period. The Kid Buu fight came to show some honoring to Humans, having Krillin & Yamcha the last fighters standing on their feet while even Pikkon is fainted is not something that you see everyday.
Except they did not fight. Boo wasn't even trying. And you can't take filler scenes seriously. Especially when thy contradict established lore.
Also by adding Yamcha and Chaozu to RoF won't fix anything. That's the smallest problem presented there. Yamcha doesn't even train anymore. His days as a martial artist are over.
GT wasn't that bad
DBZ Macky wrote:RehBeh wrote:ekrolo2 wrote:
He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought
he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.
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by ABED » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:26 am
I find it odd that anyone is talking about characters being treated respectfully or that Toriyama keeps screwing one of his characters over. You make it sound as though Yamcha's a real person.
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