Why doesn't Bulma recognize Pilaf?

VejituhTheWarriorGuy · Post by **VejituhTheWarriorGuy** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:55 pm

Rewatching Battle of Gods has made me realize this plothole. Why is this so?

Theophrastus · Post by **Theophrastus** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:03 pm

They met exactly once, something like 30 years ago in-universe, didn't they?

Granted, he did try to kill her at that time, but I don't think it's that unreasonable to have completely forgotten about him in the following decades.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:04 pm

Pilaf didn't recognize Piccolo at the party neither. Pilaf should remember Piccolo Daimao.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:24 pm

Bulma didn't recognize Pilaf.

Pilaf didn't recognize Piccolo.

Beerus didn't recognize Buu.

Pilaf tried to kill her and I doubt she's seen many creatures like him so forgetting about him is very far fetched.

Pilaf was the one who released Piccolo and after that he tried to kill him so like Bulma, the chances of him forgetting about him are slim to none.

Buu pretty much took over Beerus' job for awhile yet he doesn't know him ? we know Whis doesn't sleep so even if Beerus was sleeping through the whole thing Whis would've at least mentioned it. Freeza knew about Buu so he might've mentioned him as well.

It obviously has more to do with real world reasons rather than in-universe so I think the writers just didn't think about them which is kind of sloppy.

Theophrastus · Post by **Theophrastus** » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:05 pm

sintzu wrote:Pilaf was the one who released Piccolo and after that he tried to kill him so like Bulma, the chances of him forgetting about him are slim to none.

Most everyone should have immediately recognized Piccolo at the 23rd Budokai, too, yet somehow that stayed under wraps until he announced who he was to everyone present.

I'm inclined to think that people in Dragon World are really, really bad at recognizing faces.

RedRibbonSoldier#42 · Post by **RedRibbonSoldier#42** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:25 am

How do we know she doesn't?

fadeddreams5 · Post by **fadeddreams5** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:50 am

Bad writing.

That's...all I got.

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:54 am

Pilaf was such a lame villain. It's no surprise Bulma doesn't give a shit about him.

Zephyr · Post by **Zephyr** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:59 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Pilaf didn't recognize Piccolo at the party neither. Pilaf should remember Piccolo Daimao.

He had interactions exclusively with Old-man Daimao. This is young Piccolo, complete with turban hiding antennae. Seems reasonable enough to me.

Lunatic Fringe · Post by **Lunatic Fringe** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:05 am

Zephyr wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Pilaf didn't recognize Piccolo at the party neither. Pilaf should remember Piccolo Daimao.
He had interactions exclusively with Old-man Daimao. This is young Piccolo, complete with turban hiding antennae. Seems reasonable enough to me.

Didn't Pilaf witness Daimao restore his youth?

Zephyr · Post by **Zephyr** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:28 am

Don't remember exactly. Though, even if so, there's a difference in facial structure, and still the lack of visible antennae.

TheZFighter · Post by **TheZFighter** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:44 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:Bad writing.

That's...all I got.

This basically. The usual sloppiness.

Chelentano · Post by **Chelentano** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:32 am

RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:How do we know she doesn't?

Exactly.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:33 am

In Movie, it was at least kind of on the half-edge, yeah. But in Super, man?
Why are Pilaf and co. kids? Why nobody recognizes anyone? That bit in BoG about Goten's haircut was funny and appropriate.
And in Trunks arc, they are even family friends??? WHAT THE HELL!

Sometimes, I have the feeling like Super isn't even sequel, but that it is spin-off series, like Saint Seiya Omega, where you are aiming for completely new audience, that doesn't have clue
and they simply don't care. It's just there is flashback and kids are supposed to be like: ''Oh, Trunks have this cool history!''. Like Obi-wan explaining the Clone Wars and Jedi in SW E4 - New Hope.

sintzu · Post by **sintzu** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:52 am

MCDaveG wrote:Sometimes, I have the feeling like Super isn't even sequel, but that it is spin-off series, like Saint Seiya Omega, where you are aiming for completely new audience, that doesn't have clue and they simply don't care.

When it was announced they said they were targeting both new and old audiences, what's going on is that Toei has no quality control and don't give a damn about their and the franchise's reputation. all they care about is what their bank accounts look like at the end of the month.

In terms of Saint Seiya Omega, it's a spin off series and the original author didn't work on it (as far as I know) so its quality not being that great isn't a big deal.

Super on the other hand is being made and promoted as a sequel to Z and the original author is heavily involved with it so it being mediocre is 10× worse than a spin off being mediocre.

Gaffer Tape · Post by **Gaffer Tape** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:26 am

I don't really see it as a big deal. If I saw someone I thought I recognized, except that he was decades younger than the person I knew, I'd assume I was simply mistaken. So Blooma sees this little blue kid. Well, it can't be Pilaf because Pilaf is an adult. Must be another member of the same species.

RedRibbonSoldier#42 · Post by **RedRibbonSoldier#42** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:26 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:I don't really see it as a big deal. If I saw someone I thought I recognized, except that he was decades younger than the person I knew, I'd assume I was simply mistaken. So Blooma sees this little blue kid. Well, it can't be Pilaf because Pilaf is an adult. Must be another member of the same species.

What species is that anyway?
As for the topic, I always assumed Blooma did recognize him, but realized that he was hoplessly terrible at being evil and just isn't worried about him.

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:41 am

Pilaf is an animal people just like Shu.

So let's take Shu as an example. Imagine you saw an adult dog ninja once when you were a kid. Then over half a century later you see a kid dog ninja. Why would you assume it's the same person? It wouldn't make any sense.

RedRibbonSoldier#42 · Post by **RedRibbonSoldier#42** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:47 am

Marco Polo wrote:Pilaf is an animal people just like Shu.

So let's take Shu as an example. Imagine you saw an adult dog ninja once when you were a kid. Then over half a century later you see a kid dog ninja. Why would you assume it's the same person? It wouldn't make any sense.

If it was just a dog ninja, maybe. But one who also happened to be with a girl and blue guy?
Also, the hell kind of animal is Pilaf?

TheZFighter · Post by **TheZFighter** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:03 pm

RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:If it was just a dog ninja, maybe. But one who also happened to be with a girl and blue guy?
Also, the hell kind of animal is Pilaf?

I've always assumed Pilaf is some kind of Imp. My only evidence for this is that he is small with big, pointy ears.

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