Non-thread-worthy discussions

[Gog]

Why is the turtle hermit's gi orange? Its incredibly gaudy and appealing especially in the original manga, where Toriyama chose the worst shade of orange in the universe

[nickzambuto]

Why is the turtle hermit's gi orange? Its incredibly gaudy and appealing especially in the original manga, where Toriyama chose the worst shade of orange in the universe

It's gaudy and appealing at the same time?

[Gog]

Why is the turtle hermit's gi orange? Its incredibly gaudy and unappealing especially in the original manga, where Toriyama chose the worst shade of orange in the universe

It's gaudy and appealing at the same time?

Un, un, un, UNAPPEALING , don't look a-a-at my mistakes! Ignore it! Just ignore it!

[Sailor Haumea]

The timeline we're watching is a direct result of Trunks' endeavours, and he was from the legitimate timeline. It's not fake, it's just an alternate outcome.

No, our timeline exists because Cell time-travelled to it, or else we'd be watching the "unseen" timeline, which is the one without Cell present in it. Trunks wasn't from the legitimate timeline, the original timeline is Cell's and the Trunks there is long dead. Our Future Trunks is from a split timeline created when he travelled back in time in the first place.

There's a lot of plot holes in the Cell arc regarding the time travel anyway, but Cell's timeline has to be the original one in order for things to work.

Except Cell claimed a Trunks killed his Frieza and Cold, so Cell's timeline is the second one.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Except Cell claimed a Trunks killed his Frieza and Cold

It's pretty much a widely accepted fact that this was just a mistake.

[Gog]

Ah huh, I'm incredibly baffled with all of the Arcosians popping up in dragon ball hero's like unwanted maggots. Their designs make no sense aesthetically, and biologically they look nothing like Freeza.

Unless most of them have been hit with the ugly stick

[TekTheNinja]

Why is the turtle hermit's gi orange? Its incredibly gaudy and unappealing especially in the original manga, where Toriyama chose the worst shade of orange in the universe

I disagree. Orange is my favorite color.

[rereboy]

Except Cell claimed a Trunks killed his Frieza and Cold, so Cell's timeline is the second one.

Just like Trunks specifically mentioning to Goku that the androids were named "#19" and "#20" is a mistake, that too should be viewed as a mistake because it makes absolutely no sense and is very likely that it was just a mistake by Toriyama.

[Gog]

Why is the turtle hermit's gi orange? Its incredibly gaudy and unappealing especially in the original manga, where Toriyama chose the worst shade of orange in the universe

I disagree. Orange is my favorite color.

Oh, well opinions.

[Noah]

Except Cell claimed a Trunks killed his Frieza and Cold, so Cell's timeline is the second one.

Just like Trunks specifically mentioning to Goku that the androids were named "#19" and "#20" is a mistake, that too should be viewed as a mistake because it makes absolutely no sense and is very likely that it was just a mistake by Toriyama.

So there's a consensus that in Cell's timeline, Goku was the one who defeated Freeza and Cold instead of Trunks?

[rereboy]

Except Cell claimed a Trunks killed his Frieza and Cold, so Cell's timeline is the second one.

Just like Trunks specifically mentioning to Goku that the androids were named "#19" and "#20" is a mistake, that too should be viewed as a mistake because it makes absolutely no sense and is very likely that it was just a mistake by Toriyama.

So there's a consensus that in Cell's timeline, Goku was the one who defeated Freeza and Cold instead of Trunks?

There will never be 100% consensus regarding anything. Someone, somewhere, will always disagree. However, many people view it as a mistake and, personally, I would find it a bit silly if someone thought that Trunks mentioning #20 and #19 is a mistake but Cell mentioning Trunks as the killer of Freeza isn't a mistake.

[Nejishiki]

So there's a consensus that in Cell's timeline, Goku was the one who defeated Freeza and Cold instead of Trunks?

That's correct, yes (Goku killing Freeza, not the consensus). If you really want to consider Cell's image of Freeza being cut in half, I always thought he was referring to "present" events. Again, if you're like me & just want to do that. He was underground during the period that went down. It's possible he felt what was going on.

[Noah]

But you guys think Future Goku actually had killed Freeza and his father? I can see killing Freeza because he had no choice this time, but he could let Cold get away by "promissing he would never come back" you know, Goku's kinda easy to fool.

[Sailor Haumea]

But you guys think Future Goku actually had killed Freeza and his father? I can see killing Freeza because he had no choice this time, but he could let Cold get away by "promissing he would never come back" you know, Goku's kinda easy to fool.

I honestly doubt Goku actually killed Cold. Goku undoubtedly killed Frieza, but given that until then, he'd never met King Cold, it's entirely possible Cold begged for mercy, and Goku believed him and let him go. Who knows? Maybe Cold is a changed man in that timeline...

[kinisking]

I feel like great Saiyaman looks better in the new style.

[Footlong Shoe]

I feel like great Saiyaman looks better in the new style.

In what ways? He doesn't seem all that different to me, but maybe I've gotten too used it.

[mute_proxy]

Does anyone know where this image of SSBlue Goku with pupils came from? I thought it was from the first teaser for the movie but cant find anything https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XH63K58lKbs/maxresdefault.jpg

[Ki Breaker]

I feel like great Saiyaman looks better in the new style.

Yeah, he looks more like a hero..
Even his poses aren't as cringy anymore, it's actually funny

[Gog]

Why is Super Saiyan, well blue? Was there ever a reason stated for the colour, because if its super saiyan with god ki, then would it at the very least have a golden aura?

[8000 Saiyan]

I don't think tone matters if you can't act. You wouldn't want all Jokers to sound like Mark Hamill, would you?

Tone is a part of the performance. Joker can be cast for different reasons in different projects, but if I spoke only French, Spanish, Italian etc., & my Joker sounded dramatically different when I switched the audio, I would probably feel just the slightest bit cheated. Generally speaking I sort of feel that language is, ideally, the only thing that changes with any sort of localization. Incorporating aspects of various character performances into casting, isn't too hard. Hell, Jaleel White & LJB sound pretty reminiscent of Kusao & Chikao Otsuka (yeah, I know he came later, but still notable), & Sega of America IIRC cast pretty much entirely separately from SoJ at the time.

If all you want is just an imitation of the original version, then you should just watch the original version. Don't expect every dub sounding the same.