Dragon Ball, GT and KAI different english dubs

[ATEMVEGETA]

Beside Dragon Ball Z I would like to discuss the many different Eng dubs released for the other Dragon Ball shows. With "different dubs" I mean either different voice actors, or alternate lines, ot cut scenes, or even different background music. Basically I am not sure exactly about FUNimation and if they did more different versions than I know. I will make a Movies thread as well after this one is cleared!

Dragon Ball
*Blue Water (ep. 1-153)
*Gold Harmony (ep. 1-5)
*Creative Products Corporation (ep. 1-153)
*Ocean Group/BLT (ep.1-13)
*FUNimation (ep. 1-153) (DVD) (uncut)
*FUNimation (ep. 1-153) (Toonami) (edited)
*Animax (ep. 1-153?)

Dragon Ball GT
*Blue Water (ep. 1-64)
*FUNimation (ep. 1-64)
*FUNimation ("A Grand Problem Special")

Dragon Ball KAI
*FUNimation (Toonzai) (ep. 1-98)
*FUNimation (Nicktoons) (ep. 1-98)
*FUNimation (DVD) (ep. 1-98)
*Ocean Group (ep. 1-98) (I heard also that Ocean Group did their own dub for KAI as well, is it true?)

[successoroffate]

Do you guys feel it would have been better to have just one uniform well done Funimation dub and not just mostly failed attempts?

[Tian]

Beside Dragon Ball Z I would like to discuss the many different Eng dubs released for the other Dragon Ball shows. With "different dubs" I mean either different voice actors, or alternate lines, ot cut scenes, or even different background music. Basically I am not sure exactly about FUNimation and if they did more different versions than I know. I will make a Movies thread as well after this one is cleared!

Dragon Ball
*Blue Water (ep. 1-153)
*Gold Harmony (ep. 1-5)
*Creative Products Corporation (ep. 1-153)
*Ocean Group/BLT (ep.1-13)
*FUNimation (1-153) (did FUNimation made more different versions of the DB episodes, or only one?)

Dragon Ball GT
*Blue Water (ep. 1-64)
*FUNimation (ep. 1-64
*FUNimation ("A Grand Problem Special")

Dragon Ball KAI
(as far as I know there are 2 versions of KAI. 1 having Mr. Popo blue and the other having him Black. Not sure about that though. if anyone can clarify this, please)
*FUNimation (Blue Popo) (ep. 1-98?)
*FUNimation (Black Popo) (ep. 1-98?)
*Blue Water (ep. 1-98) (I heard also that Bluw Water did their own dub for KAI as well, is it true?)

Can't we change the name of FUNi Blue Popo to FUNi Toonzai? because the version not only had Blue Popo as one of the main edits, it also had some dialogue replacement.

[sangofe]

You might want to update your thread title by putting "English" in the thread title first

[coola]

There are also English dubs of DBZ Movies from Malaysia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wG84efH4sw and Phiilipines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd_C6ShPqSw

[ATEMVEGETA]

@Tian
Can you clarify more info about those versions? So, one is from Toonzai (Blue Popo)? The other?

@sangofe
You're right! Done!

@coola
I mentioned in the original post that I will make a Movies thread after this one. Dont discuss movies here because we will get confused.

[ErikB]

I'm curious about that "Creative Products Corporation" dub of Dragon Ball. That one's news to me. EDIT: Oh, it's the Philippines dub.

Anyway, there are effectively 3 versions of FUNimation's Kai: Nicktoons (which has black Popo and some content edits), Toonzai (blue Popo and lots of content edits) and the home video version (uncut/unedited).

The other, yet unreleased, dub for Kai would be Ocean, not Blue Water I believe (unless Blue Water also did an unreleased dub, but that'd be rather strange given it's a subsidiary of Ocean).

FUNimation did, in a sense, make 2 versions of the first 13 episodes of Dragon Ball, but that's because the Ocean/BLT dub, which you already have listed, was officially produced by FUNimation. Similar to the first "Ocean dub" of Z.

[Tian]

@Tian
Can you clarify more info about those versions? So, one is from Toonzai (Blue Popo)? The other?

Well, the Toonzai version also edited out Shenron in the opening and added 4Kids style edits like fairy dust on scenes like Chaotzu exploding and Trunks killing Freeza.

The other english FUNi version is the one seen on Nicktoons (with some edits and some lines were changed to kid-friendly ones) and Toonami (the uncut release is used).

[floofychan333]

Anybody know anything about the Animax Asia dub?

[DrBriefsCat]

*FUNimation (1-153) (did FUNimation made more different versions of the DB episodes, or only one?)

An episode from later in the series, "Deady Battle" (Fortuneteller Baba saga), virtually had a different dub on Toonami than the home video release. The way Krillin [spoiler]reveals the identity of the Invisible Man[/spoiler] had to be heavily rewritten and recut for the episode to be airable on American TV. [spoiler]The edited dub changed Krillin embarrasing Bulma in front of Master Roshi to... pouring a can of tomato soup on the Invisible Man. It's just as bizarre as something 4Kids used to do to one of their shows.[/spoiler]

[ATEMVEGETA]

@ErikB
Thanks! Yes, it was Ocean Group not Blue Water, my bad. I fixed it.

@floofychan333
WOW! I didn't knew about that dub! I added it. They did episodes 1-153 right? Have they done anything else?

@DrBriefsCat
Ah! This happened only for this one episode? Is there any proof for that, because the Wiki doesn't mention something?

[clutchins]

I'm gonna tidy this up a bit:

Dragon Ball
*Animax (ep. 1-153?)
*BLT Productions (ep. 1-13)
*Blue Water (ep. 1-153)
*Creative Products Corp. (ep. 1-153)
*FUNimation (ep. 1-153)
*Harmony Gold (ep. 1-5)

Dragon Ball GT
*Blue Water (ep. 1-64)
*FUNimation (ep. 1-64)

Dragon Ball KAI
*FUNimation (ep. 1-98)
*Ocean Group (ep. 1-98?)

Every iteration of the franchise was shown edited prior to 2014 when Toonami acquired Kai, so I wouldn't denote them as separate entities altogether. There is the uncut version by Funimation and each edited version on TV stems from that version.

Also, to answer your question about Dragon Ball, Funimation released it twice on DVD but they are the same, uncut version. The only difference is the audio mixes. The original release used a stereo mix while the blue bricks uses a 5.1 remix. But they are identical in content as far as I know.

[DrBriefsCat]

@DrBriefsCat
Ah! This happened only for this one episode? Is there any proof for that, because the Wiki doesn't mention something?

From what I recall, it may have been the one episode with the most dialog that differs from the uncut dub. The dub on the DVD was more faithful to the Japanese by comparison. The wiki has a page which mentions the edited version. [spoiler]Funimation pretty much had to make up an explanation for why the Invisible Man is covered in red fluid while cutting around the problematic scenes.[/spoiler]

I no longer have a recording of the edited version, but I remember how [spoiler]quite a bit of Krillin and Goku's dialog was redubbed to add mentions of tomato soup so that it would still make sense why they needed Bulma and Master Roshi's assistance. Krillin pulling down Bulma's shirt was replaced with mysterious footage of a can of tomato soup being opened. The substituted footage seemed to have been lifted from Movie 2 (Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle) from when a can of beer is opened. Only the text on the label was edited and the beer spray recolored red. After the Invisible Man is defeated by Yamcha, Bulma's hitting and scolding of Krillin was cut.[/spoiler]

[Cure Dragon 255]

Beside Dragon Ball Z I would like to discuss the many different Eng dubs released for the other Dragon Ball shows. With "different dubs" I mean either different voice actors, or alternate lines, ot cut scenes, or even different background music. Basically I am not sure exactly about FUNimation and if they did more different versions than I know. I will make a Movies thread as well after this one is cleared!

Dragon Ball
*Blue Water (ep. 1-153)
*Gold Harmony (ep. 1-5)
*Creative Products Corporation (ep. 1-153)
*Ocean Group/BLT (ep.1-13)
*FUNimation (1-153) (did FUNimation made more different versions of the DB episodes, or only one?)

Dragon Ball GT
*Blue Water (ep. 1-64)
*FUNimation (ep. 1-64
*FUNimation ("A Grand Problem Special")

Dragon Ball KAI
(as far as I know there are 2 versions of KAI. 1 having Mr. Popo blue and the other having him Black. Not sure about that though. if anyone can clarify this, please)
*FUNimation (Blue Popo) (ep. 1-98?)
*FUNimation (Black Popo) (ep. 1-98?)
*Blue Water (ep. 1-98) (I heard also that Bluw Water did their own dub for KAI as well, is it true?)

Can't we change the name of FUNi Blue Popo to FUNi Toonzai? because the version not only had Blue Popo as one of the main edits, it also had some dialogue replacement.

But Toonzai only aired the first half of Kai, cant we call it the Edited For The CW dub? Because that's the only constant factor in that dub.

[Tian]

But Toonzai only aired the first half of Kai, cant we call it the Edited For The CW dub? Because that's the only constant factor in that dub.

Damn, I forgot about Vortexx...and if I recall correctly, 4Kids/Toonzai version lasted until the episode where Trunks kills Freeza and the next episode, it was switched to Nicktoons' version.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Nope! They kept censoring them far beyond Nicktoons standards...just a bit less than 4Kids on Toonzai. So Either Blue Popo (They did keep him blue on Vortexx) or The CW Version.

[sangofe]

Now the question is: where to find clips of Animax, BLT, and creative productions dubs?

I'm gonna tidy this up a bit:

Dragon Ball
*Animax (ep. 1-153?)
*BLT Productions (ep. 1-13)
*Blue Water (ep. 1-153)
*Creative Products Corp. (ep. 1-153)
*FUNimation (ep. 1-153)
*Harmony Gold (ep. 1-5)

Dragon Ball GT
*Blue Water (ep. 1-64)
*FUNimation (ep. 1-64)

Dragon Ball KAI
*FUNimation (ep. 1-98)
*Ocean Group (ep. 1-98?)

Every iteration of the franchise was shown edited prior to 2014 when Toonami acquired Kai, so I wouldn't denote them as separate entities altogether. There is the uncut version by Funimation and each edited version on TV stems from that version.

Also, to answer your question about Dragon Ball, Funimation released it twice on DVD but they are the same, uncut version. The only difference is the audio mixes. The original release used a stereo mix while the blue bricks uses a 5.1 remix. But they are identical in content as far as I know.

[ATEMVEGETA]

Was the Toonzai version of KAI (Blue Popo) finished until episode 98? Or it stopped somewhere in the middle?

[Cure Dragon 255]

No, 4kids didnt have the second half, they only bought a package deal of 52 episodes and Saban Brands bought a package deal of the rest of the series and aired it on their Vortexx Block.

So Toonzai never aired the second half because it stopped existing.

[ATEMVEGETA]

So, after Toonzai they continue airing it on Vortexx? Was there shown with the same edits (blue Popo)? If so, did it finish there (ep. 98)?