Both the movie and the anime made references to other works not in the Dragon Ball anime. They didn't seem too concerned about confusing people when they referenced Tarble and had Jaco the Galactic Patrolman show up like we were supposed to know who he was.majinwarman wrote:But, they do want to make sure their viewers see what the movie showed because not everyone watches movies. Those people would be confused if they reference the movie at all.
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I don't mind the movie. I think it's a great way to enjoy Dragon Ball in a different way than the series or manga. It's also a manner to introduce family or friends to it, who maybe aren't prone to see 300 episodes, but are willing to give a 2 hour movie a chance "to see where all this hype is about". I hope the movie is somehow retold in the continuity of the series, but that isn't the big issue. I just hope Super as a series returns after that. Because i do love the Dragon Ball-series with all my heart. And i like the speculations, on this board for instance, week in, week out, about how the story will continue. There is no way a once-in-a-year-movie-formula without series could ever replace that feeling.
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Seeing as the movie is labled as a DB Super movie and the manga might adapt it as is, I don't think if the series comes back they'll retell it. Maybe if an entire new show comes back, they'll do it, but since they're continuing with this brand for both the movie and the manga, it's more likely that an eventual return of DB on TV will also be called Super and therefore there would be no reason for a retelling.
The reasons why they probably did the retellings in the first place are probably numerous, but between the fact Toriyama wanted some changes done to better fit his later stories, the fact they needed some more production time given the pace the series was greenlit at and the fact that the movies are Z branded, when the actual Z series ends at a later point than even the ulterior stories under Super (which could cause some confusion for new viewers), none of those really apply at this point, at least from what we know and what we can suppose so far.
The reasons why they probably did the retellings in the first place are probably numerous, but between the fact Toriyama wanted some changes done to better fit his later stories, the fact they needed some more production time given the pace the series was greenlit at and the fact that the movies are Z branded, when the actual Z series ends at a later point than even the ulterior stories under Super (which could cause some confusion for new viewers), none of those really apply at this point, at least from what we know and what we can suppose so far.
Check out the videos below, made by yours truly!
Goku vs Beerus BOG/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/kKKnMe
Vegeta vs Freeza ROF/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/MKPepW
Goku vs Beerus BOG/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/kKKnMe
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I understand and validate your opinion. But wouldn't it be somehow weird: DBS episode 132 as a continuation of Super would start right after TOP if you would buy a Blue Ray-set of DBS-series let's say in 2021, as if the movie has never happend and without any reference point to it?Draconic wrote:Seeing as the movie is labled as a DB Super movie and the manga might adapt it as is, I don't think if the series comes back they'll retell it. Maybe if an entire new show comes back, they'll do it, but since they're continuing with this brand for both the movie and the manga, it's more likely that an eventual return of DB on TV will also be called Super and therefore there would be no reason for a retelling.
The reasons why they probably did the retellings in the first place are probably numerous, but between the fact Toriyama wanted some changes done to better fit his later stories, the fact they needed some more production time given the pace the series was greenlit at and the fact that the movies are Z branded, when the actual Z series ends at a later point than even the ulterior stories under Super (which could cause some confusion for new viewers), none of those really apply at this point, at least from what we know and what we can suppose so far.
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They could just do a 30 second flashback/recap of the movie at the start of 132.Mister_Popo wrote:I understand and validate your opinion. But wouldn't it be somehow weird: DBS episode 132 as a continuation of Super would start right after TOP if you would buy a Blue Ray-set of DBS-series let's say in 2021, as if the movie has never happend and without any reference point to it?Draconic wrote:Seeing as the movie is labled as a DB Super movie and the manga might adapt it as is, I don't think if the series comes back they'll retell it. Maybe if an entire new show comes back, they'll do it, but since they're continuing with this brand for both the movie and the manga, it's more likely that an eventual return of DB on TV will also be called Super and therefore there would be no reason for a retelling.
The reasons why they probably did the retellings in the first place are probably numerous, but between the fact Toriyama wanted some changes done to better fit his later stories, the fact they needed some more production time given the pace the series was greenlit at and the fact that the movies are Z branded, when the actual Z series ends at a later point than even the ulterior stories under Super (which could cause some confusion for new viewers), none of those really apply at this point, at least from what we know and what we can suppose so far.
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Well, instead of the recap at the beginning of 132 being of 131, they can do it for the movie. I mean, Super itself begins with a recap of the Buu arc, so things like that are not unprecedented.Mister_Popo wrote:I understand and validate your opinion. But wouldn't it be somehow weird: DBS episode 132 as a continuation of Super would start right after TOP if you would buy a Blue Ray-set of DBS-series let's say in 2021, as if the movie has never happend and without any reference point to it?Draconic wrote:Seeing as the movie is labled as a DB Super movie and the manga might adapt it as is, I don't think if the series comes back they'll retell it. Maybe if an entire new show comes back, they'll do it, but since they're continuing with this brand for both the movie and the manga, it's more likely that an eventual return of DB on TV will also be called Super and therefore there would be no reason for a retelling.
The reasons why they probably did the retellings in the first place are probably numerous, but between the fact Toriyama wanted some changes done to better fit his later stories, the fact they needed some more production time given the pace the series was greenlit at and the fact that the movies are Z branded, when the actual Z series ends at a later point than even the ulterior stories under Super (which could cause some confusion for new viewers), none of those really apply at this point, at least from what we know and what we can suppose so far.
From what I understand, there might have been some licensing issues for why they couldn't use BoG/RoF footage in the retellings (which seeing as they were retellings in the first place would have kinda been pointless anyway), but I think the people in charge are probably in a much better spot today than they were in 2015 regarding their handling of those behind the scenes issues.
Not to mention, with how big a brand Super is, I find it hard to believe anyone who watched the series up to 131 wouldn't watch the movie, so they wouldn't be lost going into 132 and if the movie brings in new viewers, I think that would be enough of a starting point going forward.
The only people who might have some accomdation problems would be people jumping straight into 132, which are probably very few anyway and if they do get hooked, would probably have enough resources at hand to catch up in the right order.
Check out the videos below, made by yours truly!
Goku vs Beerus BOG/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/kKKnMe
Vegeta vs Freeza ROF/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/MKPepW
Goku vs Beerus BOG/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/kKKnMe
Vegeta vs Freeza ROF/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/MKPepW
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New promo art on the cover of V-Jump
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I'm really liking those colours, always loved the washed out Super Saiyan yellow.mute_proxy wrote:New promo art on the cover of V-Jump
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If Goku and others look like that in the movie then that would be great.mute_proxy wrote:New promo art on the cover of V-Jump
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Well with the retellings have done well suggest that a lot of people did actually.Helios518 wrote:I never really understood this. If a person is not going to bother to watch an 1 - 2 hour movie, what makes you believe they would watch an arc with at least a dozen episodes?majinwarman wrote:But, they do want to make sure their viewers see what the movie showed because not everyone watches movies. Those people would be confused if they reference the movie at all.emperior wrote: Well at the time it were two movies and the first one, BoG, was released on 2013 so it makes sense Toriyama wanted it to be retold, and so RoF had to be retold too. Those movies were also still under the Z brand. I hope that if the show continues they won't retell this new movie, it would be a waste of time and it would obviously look worse in the TV version.
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Where are you basing this info from?Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Well with the retellings have done well suggest that a lot of people did actually.Helios518 wrote:I never really understood this. If a person is not going to bother to watch an 1 - 2 hour movie, what makes you believe they would watch an arc with at least a dozen episodes?majinwarman wrote: But, they do want to make sure their viewers see what the movie showed because not everyone watches movies. Those people would be confused if they reference the movie at all.
Why I use "Geran" instead of "Jiren"
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I wonder what the silver dragon-like character top right might represent. First tease of the new villain? Or could it be Zalama? It looks like we are going to see MUI again in the movie, but that's no real surprise.mute_proxy wrote:New promo art on the cover of V-Jump
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Seeing as he's been composing the music for most of Toei's films lately, how would you guys feel if Yuki Hayashi made the movie's score instead of Sumitomo?
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Uhh... are you joking? That's a Yu-Gi-Oh card lolMister_Popo wrote:
I wonder what the silver dragon-like character top right might represent. First tease of the new villain? Or could it be Zalama? It looks like we are going to see MUI again in the movie, but that's no real surprise.
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Chill out bro.mute_proxy wrote:Uhh... are you joking? That's a Yu-Gi-Oh card lolMister_Popo wrote:
I wonder what the silver dragon-like character top right might represent. First tease of the new villain? Or could it be Zalama? It looks like we are going to see MUI again in the movie, but that's no real surprise.
I don't know these cards you are mentioning very well. I thought it had elements in it that are somehow connected to the movie. That it was intented as some kind of preview.
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Nah. I Yu-Gi-Oh card is on all the covers.lolMister_Popo wrote:Chill out bro.mute_proxy wrote:Uhh... are you joking? That's a Yu-Gi-Oh card lolMister_Popo wrote:
I wonder what the silver dragon-like character top right might represent. First tease of the new villain? Or could it be Zalama? It looks like we are going to see MUI again in the movie, but that's no real surprise.
I don't know these cards you are mentioning very well. I thought it had elements in it that are somehow connected to the movie. That it was intented as some kind of preview.
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Proxy isn't really being aggressive with his comment, so there's really no need to tell him "Chill out bro". It's also fine, everybody makes mistakes. Though I'm surprised that there's someone that doesn't know the iconic layout to a Yu-Gi-Oh card.Mister_Popo wrote:Chill out bro.mute_proxy wrote:Uhh... are you joking? That's a Yu-Gi-Oh card lolMister_Popo wrote:
I wonder what the silver dragon-like character top right might represent. First tease of the new villain? Or could it be Zalama? It looks like we are going to see MUI again in the movie, but that's no real surprise.
I don't know these cards you are mentioning very well. I thought it had elements in it that are somehow connected to the movie. That it was intented as some kind of preview.
Why I use "Geran" instead of "Jiren"
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No prob. I do know the art on the covers, i recognize it, but i didn't knew in what context it's used in comparison to the movie. it's posted here in the movie-segment for a reason, i presume.Helios518 wrote:Proxy isn't really being aggressive with his comment, so there's really no need to tell him "Chill out bro". It's also fine, everybody makes mistakes. Though I'm surprised that there's someone that doesn't know the iconic layout to a Yu-Gi-Oh card.Mister_Popo wrote:Chill out bro.mute_proxy wrote:
Uhh... are you joking? That's a Yu-Gi-Oh card lol
I don't know these cards you are mentioning very well. I thought it had elements in it that are somehow connected to the movie. That it was intented as some kind of preview.
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The fact the retellings seem to have done well, in the big 3 English regions (NA, NZ/Aus and UK) the retellings sold really well despite all three already having released the movies and still available for a fraction of the price, FUNi's release for Part 1 was out of stock as soon as release day.Helios518 wrote:Where are you basing this info from?Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Well with the retellings have done well suggest that a lot of people did actually.Helios518 wrote:
I never really understood this. If a person is not going to bother to watch an 1 - 2 hour movie, what makes you believe they would watch an arc with at least a dozen episodes?
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That's doesn't tell us that how much people watched the retellings without watching the movies as well.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:The fact the retellings seem to have done well, in the big 3 English regions (NA, NZ/Aus and UK) the retellings sold really well despite all three already having released the movies and still available for a fraction of the price, FUNi's release for Part 1 was out of stock as soon as release day.Helios518 wrote:Where are you basing this info from?Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Well with the retellings have done well suggest that a lot of people did actually.
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